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	<title>Comments on: John McCain Goes Beyond The Pale, Even For John McCain</title>
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		<title>By: PD100</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114409</link>
		<dc:creator>PD100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bust out the Keating five gambit</description>
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		<title>By: KXB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114344</link>
		<dc:creator>KXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I originally posted this on Ragged Thots


For fans of the show 30 Rock, there was an episode in Season 2 where James Carville appeared at himself, and was dispensing some political advice - change the issue. He pointed out in 2004, you had an unpopular war, so the Republicans bring up Swift Boats and gay marriage. In 2008, you have a debt-ridden economy and failing investment banks, un-ending military commitments overseas - so you bring in an exciting new face in the form of Sarah Palin. After continuous coverage since 2007 of Obama and McCain, she is a new factor, and with less than 2 months to go, it may give the Republicans just enough juice to carry over to Election Day.

Obama and Co. need to change the game - drop the deference to McCain and how this behavior is unbecoming of him. It is not - it is who he is, and always has been. And if you need to bring things to a personal level, I have a suggestion - the Beltway Snipers.

In 2002, Chief of Montgomery County Police Charles Moose was in charge of the mult-jurisdictional investigation to catch the snipers. Within a few days, McCain got on TV to urge that Moose be replaced, since progress was not meeting his standard. Thankfully, Moose was kept on the job, and the snipers were soon caught. Here is John McCain, putting a police investigation at risk, just because he thinks he knows how police work is done.

Get Moose in a commercial - now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I originally posted this on Ragged Thots</p>
<p>For fans of the show 30 Rock, there was an episode in Season 2 where James Carville appeared at himself, and was dispensing some political advice &#8211; change the issue. He pointed out in 2004, you had an unpopular war, so the Republicans bring up Swift Boats and gay marriage. In 2008, you have a debt-ridden economy and failing investment banks, un-ending military commitments overseas &#8211; so you bring in an exciting new face in the form of Sarah Palin. After continuous coverage since 2007 of Obama and McCain, she is a new factor, and with less than 2 months to go, it may give the Republicans just enough juice to carry over to Election Day.</p>
<p>Obama and Co. need to change the game &#8211; drop the deference to McCain and how this behavior is unbecoming of him. It is not &#8211; it is who he is, and always has been. And if you need to bring things to a personal level, I have a suggestion &#8211; the Beltway Snipers.</p>
<p>In 2002, Chief of Montgomery County Police Charles Moose was in charge of the mult-jurisdictional investigation to catch the snipers. Within a few days, McCain got on TV to urge that Moose be replaced, since progress was not meeting his standard. Thankfully, Moose was kept on the job, and the snipers were soon caught. Here is John McCain, putting a police investigation at risk, just because he thinks he knows how police work is done.</p>
<p>Get Moose in a commercial &#8211; now!</p>
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		<title>By: anotherbozo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114319</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherbozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard on the teevee that Obama has put the brakes on any 527 ads that would go after McCain.  Is this true?  And if so, will he reconsider?  No need for him to get down in the mud, I want to say shit, with McCain;  but it&#039;d be good to point out why many of us are HORRIFIED by the specter of a totally unprincipled, opportunistic liar serving 4 MORE years in the White House, this one perhaps even worse than the last, given his hotheaded temperament and penchant for impulsive, risky decisions (e.g., Palin). 

Where is MoveOn.org when you need them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard on the teevee that Obama has put the brakes on any 527 ads that would go after McCain.  Is this true?  And if so, will he reconsider?  No need for him to get down in the mud, I want to say shit, with McCain;  but it&#8217;d be good to point out why many of us are HORRIFIED by the specter of a totally unprincipled, opportunistic liar serving 4 MORE years in the White House, this one perhaps even worse than the last, given his hotheaded temperament and penchant for impulsive, risky decisions (e.g., Palin). </p>
<p>Where is MoveOn.org when you need them?</p>
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		<title>By: TheCraig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain would rather see your kids molested than lose an election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain would rather see your kids molested than lose an election.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114286</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The upside for McCain is that he&#039;s won NAMBLA&#039;s endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The upside for McCain is that he&#8217;s won NAMBLA&#8217;s endorsement.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114282</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I had ago at him for his inability to follow through, but in the end, even Frank thought this advert was wrong, and that&#039;s saying a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I had ago at him for his inability to follow through, but in the end, even Frank thought this advert was wrong, and that&#8217;s saying a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114269</link>
		<dc:creator>mambochicken23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Un-fucking-believable.  That is enraging.  Who the fuck does this?

I had a great deal of respect for John McCain about 8 years ago.  That respect began to dissolve over the last few years, with him retreating on everything that he had once stood for in order to pander to his party.  But to be perfectly honest, I still had a modicum of respect for the man... until now.  That&#039;s it.  It&#039;s over.  Fuck that guy.

Anyone who can watch that ad and still respect McCain, much less VOTE for him, is an asshole who needs to get their head examined.  Or better yet, kill yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Un-fucking-believable.  That is enraging.  Who the fuck does this?</p>
<p>I had a great deal of respect for John McCain about 8 years ago.  That respect began to dissolve over the last few years, with him retreating on everything that he had once stood for in order to pander to his party.  But to be perfectly honest, I still had a modicum of respect for the man&#8230; until now.  That&#8217;s it.  It&#8217;s over.  Fuck that guy.</p>
<p>Anyone who can watch that ad and still respect McCain, much less VOTE for him, is an asshole who needs to get their head examined.  Or better yet, kill yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114258</link>
		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John McCain believes children should be easy prey.</description>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114255</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody old enough to remember Republican campaigning that didn&#039;t make you feel a little dirty having seen it in action? I mean, nothing against the party at large, got some good Republican friends and all, but... Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody old enough to remember Republican campaigning that didn&#8217;t make you feel a little dirty having seen it in action? I mean, nothing against the party at large, got some good Republican friends and all, but&#8230; Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114247</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Score: Obama -0-, McCain -0-&quot;

&quot;Shall we discuss the “Sambo meme”?&quot;

You might delete this, Oliver, but the people responsible for this ad, including McCain, and anyone who tries to defend it in any way are low down, filthy, evil fucks.
How goddamn low can you go? POW my ass. Fuck that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Score: Obama -0-, McCain -0-&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Shall we discuss the “Sambo meme”?&#8221;</p>
<p>You might delete this, Oliver, but the people responsible for this ad, including McCain, and anyone who tries to defend it in any way are low down, filthy, evil fucks.<br />
How goddamn low can you go? POW my ass. Fuck that.</p>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114246</link>
		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m Jack Bauer! I can lie!&quot;-John McCain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m Jack Bauer! I can lie!&#8221;-John McCain</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114242</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Buma !

That was a typo...

You may now recover your composure...

NG and Squid : Just think for yourself , and forget the mind reading act 

If there is anything I said you did not understand, just ask me ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Buma !</p>
<p>That was a typo&#8230;</p>
<p>You may now recover your composure&#8230;</p>
<p>NG and Squid : Just think for yourself , and forget the mind reading act </p>
<p>If there is anything I said you did not understand, just ask me &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114226</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That bill actually dealt with what kindergarteners should do when a Republican touches them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That bill actually dealt with what kindergarteners should do when a Republican touches them.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114224</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Fra = Frank diSalle = duh?

Three concern trolls rolled into one! What a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Fra = Frank diSalle = duh?</p>
<p>Three concern trolls rolled into one! What a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114222</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he is deliberately obtuse, but since he&#039;s a superior conservative whose conservative morals are so much better than ours, it really doesn&#039;t matter.

Meanwhile the &lt;b&gt;G&lt;/b&gt;ang &lt;b&gt;O&lt;/b&gt;f &lt;b&gt;P&lt;/b&gt;erverts strikes again. Go tell McCain he can bogart David Vitter&#039;s diapers now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he is deliberately obtuse, but since he&#8217;s a superior conservative whose conservative morals are so much better than ours, it really doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the <b>G</b>ang <b>O</b>f <b>P</b>erverts strikes again. Go tell McCain he can bogart David Vitter&#8217;s diapers now.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114212</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ad twists the truth about a policy statement, and a law passed to protect young children.

It is NOT fair, but neither is characterizing it as an “attack on the father of two young children”, or bringing in Mitt Romney.

Score: Obama -0-, McCain -0-

Shall we discuss the “Sambo meme”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ad twists the truth about a policy statement, and a law passed to protect young children.</p>
<p>It is NOT fair, but neither is characterizing it as an “attack on the father of two young children”, or bringing in Mitt Romney.</p>
<p>Score: Obama -0-, McCain -0-</p>
<p>Shall we discuss the “Sambo meme”?</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114204</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you deliberately obtuse, or what? Nil nil my arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you deliberately obtuse, or what? Nil nil my arse.</p>
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		<title>By: Fra</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114202</link>
		<dc:creator>Fra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ad twists the truth about a policy statement, and a law passed to protect young children.

It is NOT fair, but neither is characterizing it as an &quot;attack on the father of two young children&quot;, or bringing in Mitt Romney.

Score: Obama -0-, McCain -0-

Shall we discuss the &quot;Sambo meme&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ad twists the truth about a policy statement, and a law passed to protect young children.</p>
<p>It is NOT fair, but neither is characterizing it as an &#8220;attack on the father of two young children&#8221;, or bringing in Mitt Romney.</p>
<p>Score: Obama -0-, McCain -0-</p>
<p>Shall we discuss the &#8220;Sambo meme&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114198</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus Christ that is enraging. Well done to the Obama campaign for calling him on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus Christ that is enraging. Well done to the Obama campaign for calling him on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/09/john-mccain-goes-beyond-the-pale-even-for-john-mccain/#comment-114197</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,”&lt;/em&gt;

Bwah! More like that, please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why,”</em></p>
<p>Bwah! More like that, please!</p>
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