Barack Obama Did Not Call Sarah Palin A Pig
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But the John Mccain camp is idiotic. I wonder where this sudden concern for women comes from on the right when their fellow travelers have been calling women “feminazi” and the like for 20+ years?
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It doesn’t matter what the Republicans have always done, they have the “BABE” and you Dems don’t, so don’t be sexist to her.
This one is close. I’m thankful that putting “lipstick on a pig” is a very old cliche as doesn’t really have anything lately to do with “Miss Piggie.”
Even if they kick up a fuss it won’t stick. She said she was a “pit bull.”
“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”
Oh for the love of God, you can’t say bloody anything. He wasn’t even talking about Palin, he was talking about the Republican Party in general.
She is, after all, the pork barrel princess
I’m surprised they didn’t just call Obama uppity.
I forget, which candidate called their wife a “cunt” and “like a trollop”? Oh, and which made the Chelsea Clinton/Janet Reno joke? Please remind me.
Looks like Obama just had his “macaca” moment.
And his follow-on comment about “old fish wrapped in newspaper” was a pretty clear indication that he was referring to McCain, since he (and his helpful supporters) have spent so much time and effort to remind everyone just how “old” McCain is.
What a stupid thing to say. Even if Obama honestly wasn’t talking directly about Palin, a lot of people (and not all of them wingnuts that you can safely dismiss) are going to immediately associate his “lipstick on a pig” comment to Palin’s self-described “lipstick on a pitbull” comment from the convention. She did have almost 40 million people watching her speech, you know (just like Obama).
Someone needs to remind Obama that words have meaning.
Just followed you over from HuffPost and bookmarked your site. There’s so much post-Palin stupid around that I need the kryptonite…
I forget, which candidate called their wife a “cunt” and “like a trollop”?
Oh, you mean that accusation by “three anonymous Arizona reporters” documented in a book expose on McCain, with no other record of those comments actually existing?
Looks like Obama just had his “macaca” moment.
How very sad and very insulting. Obama said a phrase both he and John McCain have uttered numerous times, and you think that’s identical to a person deliberately and explicitly calling someone an ethnic slur. This seems to say a lot more about you than Obama.
Matt621: “Joe Biden is not a racist.”
Apparently Ollie Willis disagrees with you…
“His presidential campaign is the Titanic. His idiot mouth has killed it.
UPDATE: The audio of Biden’s comments are out and they don’t change a thing. What he said was racist, offensive, and not representing any of the qualities of the Democratic party or America.”
Oliver Willis
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/31/joe-biden-is-a-farking-idiot/
This is a total fabrication. 100%
However, it is working.
When you are denying that you either said it or that you meant anything by it; you have lost the battle.
I sense Karl Rove lurking in the shadows.
You know, I agree with you Oliver. He probably wasn’t referring to Palin. Except you are the last person who can whine about this. You regularly impute deep racist impulses to people (actually, an entire group of people) based on the utterance a single word or phrase. How does your own medicine taste?
While Mr. Willis is wondering where the right’s sudden interest in treating women equally comes from, I’m curious where the left’s went. The left sure doesn’t seem to like it when their years of “code words” has suddenly been turned back around on them.
Does anybody have a clue about what positions Gov. Palin favors?
What does she think of the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act? Do we know her position on Net Neutrality? Perhaps if I knew more about how she could help the inner cities, I would consider voting for the McCain / Palin ticker.
What criteria does she use to distinguish needed infrastructure from wasteful pork? What is her strong policy suit? As governor, she must have had some notable accomplishment beyond turning down a few wasteful federal earmarks. Tell us more of what’s happened in Alaska. What would be her 100 day plan, in office?
Unemployment is rising – the number of Americans holding jobs is not growing with the population – is this a problem to be fixed? These are our questions. Not stupid soundbites.
“I was just kidding when I said Janet Reno was Chelsea’s dad”-Carol McCain’s abandoner
With the MSM jumping over each other over this “lipstick on a pig” comment but totaly ignoring the fact that Palin isn’t taking any questions from anyone in the press….I guess today was the very first time that I felt Obama could lose this election – and I cast my lot with Obama way in Feb of 07 so I’m no fair weather friend.
I cannot believe that “up” is “down”, “black” is “white” and “same old” is “change”. The “MSM” is just into perpetuating this “horserace” for the ratings. To sell ad time for soap, soda and soup. That’s it – there are no real journalists taking the time to really take the McCain campaign to task. The McCain camp just says anything they want and it’s repeated as fact.
For all this “love affair” the supposed left-wing press had for Obama, he cannot make a single mistake or percieved mistake without being raked over the coals. He basically REPEATED WORD FOR WORD what McCain said about Hillary Clinton’s Health Care plan and the press JUMPS on it – complete with Drudge putting a picture of Palin over Obama’s quote.
It’s like we live in Bizzaro World and everything is the opposite of what it should be.
“How does your own medicine taste?”
So much for those bedrock conservative principles of speech that get dusted off and trotted out whenever defending one of their own from genuinely offensive rhetoric.
The more this campaign unfolds, the more and more obvious it is that the conservative movement and the Republican party care only about winning at all cost.
Well if you liked that lie about Obama calling Sarah a pig, then you’ll love this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs&e
Calling out Obama for teaching kindergartens sex education before they are even able to read.
As always they missed the mark on the truthfulness of their statements and I doubt have even read the bill. Where do they get there sound bites from.
And McCain once again proves what a fool he is “I am John McCain and I approved this message”.
Works for me, the more you prove yourself an imbecile the better it is for the other candidate.
>So much for those bedrock conservative principles of speech that get dusted off and trotted out whenever defending one of their own from genuinely offensive rhetoric.
Ah, so you can point out where I’m condoning what McCain is doing, right fafaroo? All I’m doing is pointing out that Oliver is throwing stones from a glass house.
>The more this campaign unfolds, the more and more obvious it is that the conservative movement and the Republican party care only about winning at all cost.
Heh. Newsflash – both parties care only about winning. The only relevant question is how far they are willing to go to win it. If you think the Democrats are bastions of electoral purity (see Chicago, Illinois) I’ve got a bridge for you..
The epitome of uber-brittle manufactured outrage. Calling Sen. Obama a big meany-head over the use of a completely harmless cliche is supposed to win them victim points. Blegh.
He was very clearly talking about policy, not people. Via CBS News-
“He started out with his standard stump: “John McCain says he’s about change too and so I guess his whole angle is ‘watch out George Bush – except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education, policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove style politics – we’re really gonna shake things up in Washington.’ That’s not change.”
But then Obama interjected a little humor into his argument, “That’s just calling something the same thing, something different. But you know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.”
And for the thread’s requisite pedantry, the phrase is not sexist:
“If people put lipstick on a pig, they make superficial or cosmetic changes, hoping that it will make the product more attractive.”
If both parties only care about winning, then why do the R’s distract us from policy talks with shiny baubles (sexism!) when the D’s talk policy?
It’s almost like one party cares about issues as part of their strategy to win, while the other uses the Culture Wars over and over to win elections.
For me, I’ll look to the party that talks issues, than you.
Someday, we might even have two major parties that do it.
Look at DaveinSoCal calling Obama “macaca”. He can’t contain his racism. Crawl back under your rock, Dave.
Let’s just call a spade a spade here: Obama chose a great time to dust off a cliche’ he hadn’t used before (but, his campaign was amazingly ready to note, John McCain used to describe Hillary Clinton’s health care proposal — almost like they KNEW it would suddenly become remarkably germane) only a very short time after Sarah Palin made her memorable quip about hockey moms and pit bulls.
And as SFC B notes, this looks an awful lot like the “code word” arguments used time and again by the left, now being used against them. It’s the pot calling the kettle black.
Could this be Obama’s “macaca” moment? Who knows. I doubt it. But the reversal certainly is entertaining.
This election certainly hasn’t been niggardly with entertainment value, though, that’s for sure…
J.
This is one of the 5 stupidest things I have ever seen. If anyone here truly believes that Obama was referring to Palin as a pig, even indirectly or through “code words”, if you think that he was being insulting to women… please kill yourself now. Your pitiful excuse for a brain is wasting valuable oxygen that the rest of us can put to better use.
Well, there goes the master plan to use the word “retard”.
I know JayTea is trying to be clever, but does he really want to wear his racism on his sleeve? Probably.
So, midder, it’s racist to know the real meanings of words and phrases, and use them properly? Duly noted.
I bet you got mad when the other kids called you a “homo sapien.”
Chill out, dude. “It’s just words.”
J.
Careful Jay Tea. You just used the word “spade” in the same sentence as “Obama”. Everyone knows that “spade” is a code word for “uppity n-bomb”. I hope you intend to apologize and attend sensitivity training so you can unlearn such deep-seated hatred.
What’s the problem bigot? Just words.
Jay Tea, you are so very very very clever. Yes we know the meaning of words like “spade” and “niggardly”. And yes, we see how very very very clever you are. We are so very very very impressed. Asshat.
What’s funny is that all these conservatives up in arms about this are just essentially calling themselves sexist. I’m pretty sure most have been running around repeating the pitbull with lipstick crap applying it directly to Sarah Palin. She encourages it.
Who’s up in arms, midder? I’m just sitting back and enjoying the spectacle of this guy who’s supposed to be such an inspiring, brilliant speaker constantly stepping into potholes and stomping on land mines and shooting himself in the foot — especially when he strays away from the teleprompter.
Oh, and Bruce, I resent your comment. I want credit for the pot and kettle line, too.
J.
Look at DaveinSoCal calling Obama “macaca”. He can’t contain his racism. Crawl back under your rock, Dave.
I didn’t call Obama macaca, I said he had his “macaca” moment (a reference to the failed George Allen campaign) and meaning that he said something that could be hugely damaging to his campaign.
Idiot.
But thanks for demonstrating (once again) the left’s hair-trigger sensitivity to anything that can be grabbed and used as a “racist” club.
Which is why this incident is so amusing… all of you getting your panties in a twist over Obama being hammered for saying something that could be taken as a sexist insult. Whether he meant it that way or not doesn’t matter, what counts is how it’s being taken by his opponents. Isn’t that your stance on any and all comments from conservatives that you see as racist?
Paybacks a bitch, eh?
Oh, and pull your head out of your ass, midder.
“especially when he strays away from the teleprompter.”
This, from the message-board warriors who cheered every mangled remark to come out of the mouth of George H.W. Bush’s idiot son, then defend the Ivy League dry-drunk’s language skills as a byproduct of being “plain folk”.
There must be a wingnut plot to massacre parody and irony in one fell swoop.
LMAO! This is classic!
Pot, meet kettle. And do you remember the word “niggardly?” LMAO!
For decades, leftists have been unjustly claiming racism, sexism and every other kind of -ism to score political points. Now, it happens to you all, and you whine about it????
Too f***ing funny!
And yes, by the way, that comment *was* very sexist. And women everywhere should be insulted by the bitterly sexist Obama’s sexist slur against Palin. LMAO!!!!!
Maybe you assholes will remember how this feels the next time you want to slander someone for no good goddamn reason.
But I doubt it. That would take a shred of dignity and class.
OH! And where’s your righteous outrage over this smear, since all of you leftists are sooooo into intellectual honesty all of a sudden……
http://wcbstv.com/politics/paterson.mccain.palin.2.813646.html
If you’re going to whine about one, you should whine about the other.
A little consistency from you phony ass hypocrites would be nice for a change.
Maybe you assholes will remember how this feels the next time you want to slander someone for no good goddamn reason.
Are you kidding? That’s the biggest tool they’ve got. How else are they going to convince gullible Americans that Democrats have just the solution for what ails them if they can’t use their code books and decoder rings to point out the numerous examples of rich, evil, racist and sexist conservatives keeping them down?
HA HA!
But then Obama interjected a little humor into his argument, “That’s just calling something the same thing, something different. But you know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.”
The problem for Obama (and I think this issue is stupid and said so at my own blog) is not what he said, but really it is the reaction of the crowd. “Lipstick on a pig” is not that funny, but the audience laughed uproariously. It was clear THEY thought Obama was talking about Palin. What was bad was his following statements where once again, he chose to dismiss Palin’s professional accomplishments with a backhanded compliment about how her raising five kids.
I have to admit though I couldn’t resist chuckling at Democrats having their “code word/dog whistle” shit blown back at them.
Midder = hook, line, and sinker.
Good god, you’re a tool.
No, JayTea, you’ve been sitting back and enjoying your opportunity to dust off your racist thesaurus.
No, JayTea, you’ve been sitting back and enjoying your opportunity to dust off your racist thesaurus.
While you, on the other hand, keep your well-thumbed “Republican Code Words” book with you at all times.
NIGGAR…DLY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL DO YOU GET IT IT’S LIKE I CALLED THAT COON A NIGGER BUT THEN IT TURNED OUT I WAS SAYING SOMETHING COMPLETELY UNRELATED THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE NIGGER IT IS THE FUNNIEST JOKE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD
Team Clinton Says Obama Intimidated By Palin Factor
The bottom line here is that shouldn’t Obama (or his writers) have been smart enough to know that the connection to Gov. Palin would be made with the lipstick comment even if we believe that in no way was it intended to refer to her?
And does anyone truly believe that if the circumstances were reversed the Democrats wouldn’t be raking McCain over the coals? Of course they would. Perhaps rightfully so.
No, the bottom line here is shut up and stop pointing at three-headed monkeys.
That didn’t take long. Ouch.
MobiusKlein,
>If both parties only care about winning, then why do the R’s distract us from policy talks with shiny baubles (sexism!) when the D’s talk policy?
It’s almost like one party cares about issues as part of their strategy to win, while the other uses the Culture Wars over and over to win elections.
For me, I’ll look to the party that talks issues, than you.
Someday, we might even have two major parties that do it.
Seriously, take the blinders off. Do you really want to claim that Obama “they are going to make you afraid of me because I’m black” and “they cling to religion and guns” and Democrats in general are a bunch of above the fray (racism!), policy driven wonks? At best you can try to claim that Republicans are worse, but if you want to start throwing quotes at each other, we would be here for hours.
And does anyone truly believe that if the circumstances were reversed the Democrats wouldn’t be raking McCain over the coals? Of course they would. Perhaps rightfully so.
It has been reversed. And no one went ballistic. File this talking point under “bogus.”
Yeah, I know. That was kinda the basis of the joke there, champ.
This, from the message-board warriors who cheered every mangled remark to come out of the mouth of George H.W. Bush’s idiot son, then defend the Ivy League dry-drunk’s language skills as a byproduct of being “plain folk”.
One major difference: Even Bush laughs at himself when he goes off on one of his epic tangents of tangled locution. He brought the house down at the 2004 RNC, with “People sometimes have to correct my English. I knew I had a problem when Arnold Schwarzenegger started doing it.” And I will never, never, NEVER stop laughing at “Too many OB-GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.”
Obama, though… he never makes mistakes. Just ask him. He’s too brilliant and inspiring and articulate and hopey and changeful and just so darn ginchy that any such incidents aren’t his fault, but the fault of the listeners.
CURSE us for being so racist and sexist and bigoted to read into his remarks more than he intends! ESPECIALLY those people who attended the “lipstick on a pig” speech — they obviously heard more than just a hackneyed old cliche’, because they EXPLODED in applause — the kind of cheering you do when your guy scores a big hit on the other candidate.
J.
Which is why this incident is so amusing… all of you getting your panties in a twist over Obama being hammered for saying something that could be taken as a sexist insult. Whether he meant it that way or not doesn’t matter, what counts is how it’s being taken by his opponents. Isn’t that your stance on any and all comments from conservatives that you see as racist?
Paybacks a bitch, eh?
I see. You’re actually admitting the claim is nonsense and is nothing more than a chance to get even for times when Republicans have been called out for saying something awful.
Thanks for the moment of clarity. You too, Mr. Tea.
>I see. You’re actually admitting the claim is nonsense and is nothing more than a chance to get even for times when Republicans have been called out for saying something awful.
Assuming the “claim” you are referring to is McCains claim that Obama was playing the gender card, then yes, I’d call it nonsense. That doesn’t change the humor of watching the Dems own tried and true nonsense being used against them. (And Oliver complaining about it. Too funny from the master of the genre.)
Actually, Quaker, I’d love to see the whole code-word gotcha game just go away. And if it takes rubbing Obama’s nose in his own words to put a dent in that, or bring up Joe Biden’s talk about Obama being “clean and articulate,” or using the phrase “macaca moment,” then so be it.
Yes, both sides are being somewhat hypocritical. Now that it’s Obama saying stuff that can be construed as sexist (anyone remember the “hang on, sweetie” moment), now the liberals are saying “it’s meaningless” and the conservatives are saying “now it means something!”
The difference is, those of us saying “now it means something” are laughing while we say it. You folks are the ones who are perpetually indignant and serious about the whole thing.
We get the joke. You ARE the joke.
J.
And when it rains it pours. While introducing Missouri Senator Check Graham yesterday Senator Biden told Senator Graham to “stand up and let the crowd see you!”
Graham is a paraplegic who is confined to a wheelchair.
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=1952
Good job, SFC and Haplo. You can expect your shipment of McSame/Palin golf balls in 6-8 weeks.
Even Bush laughs at himself when he goes off on one of his epic tangents of tangled locution.
Sure does.
“It has been reversed. And no one went ballistic. File this talking point under “bogus.””
Hardly. The earlier reference was without the context of Gov. Palin’s speech. If Gov. Palin hadn’t used her lipstick joke, Sen. Obama’s reference would have had no meaning other than as a tired cliche. It is the context of her speech that makes his use of the phrase puzzling.
“Actually, Quaker, I’d love to see the whole code-word gotcha game just go away.”
I would, too.
Which is why while I agree this whole story is dumb and will hopefully go away in the next day, I can’t help but chuckle because people like Oliver have tried to corner the market on this strategy and failed miserably.
Needless to say, it’s just a little hypocritical for these idiots to slam the McCain over this.
>Good job, SFC and Haplo. You can expect your shipment of McSame/Palin golf balls in 6-8 weeks.
Aww come on. Surely you can do better than that? You see no humor at all in this situation? You Dems need to stop taking yourselves so seriously. People like Oliver might even become honest partisans then.
“McSame/Palin golf balls in 6-8 weeks.”
Woot!
I can use them instead of the balls with the red stripe around them I usually use.
line here is that shouldn’t Obama (or his writers) have been smart enough to know that the connection to Gov. Palin would be made with the lipstick comment even if we believe that in no way was it intended to refer to her?
Ummm… isn’t this the same “PC” language spinning the Republicans are usually railing against?
I believe the point is the MSM takes WHATEVER it is fed to create story lines no matter how wrong or cynical. I think conservatives can easily agree with Oliver that Obama did not in ANY way infer or say Sarah Palin was a pig. This outrage is merely projection and wishful thinking.
As to Democrats doing anything to win, I would take away the qualifier “anything”. They would go to extremes but not anything. Republicans are choosing to be more extreme. McCain could say Obama wants your children to be molested and murdered and like clock work Democrats would say “The american people are smarter than this…” except they aren’t and the media enables all of this tomfoolery.
>McCain could say Obama wants your children to be molested and murdered and like clock work Democrats would say “The american people are smarter than this…” except they aren’t and the media enables all of this tomfoolery.
Except McCain hasn’t, and I kind doubt that he will. Meanwhile, Obama has already, multiple times, attempted to preemtively claim that McCain will use race to scare people away from him. McCain has not. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think McCain is some kind of exemplar here (his being willing to spin Obama as attacking Palin here makes that clear), I just think that this:
>They would go to extremes but not anything. Republicans are choosing to be more extreme.
is wishful thinking. I see nothing that indicates that one party or the other is clearly more or less extreme. I think both parties are willing to do or say whatever they can feasibly get away with to get power. Which describes just about everyone in history who wants power. The more things change…
The last time Democrats stooped to this level nationally was the LBJ “daisy” ad in 1964. Since then, underhanded, “southern strategy”, Willie Horton, Atwater-Rove style campaigns have been pretty much exclusively Republican. Portraying Dukakis as a weenie, Gore as a know-it-all smartypants, and Kerry as a gutless coward is what won those elections, and the same kind of thing is what they hope will win this one. They hope the voters haven’t got any smarter and they may be right.
I remember 1972. My boss at the time was trying to get me to vote for Nixon. He said, “McGovern wants to take a thousand dollars of MY MONEY and give it to a n*****r.” That was BEFORE the internet! Republicans love this kind of shit.
Meghan doesn’t think so.
Linkee
Dukakis was a weenie. At least we can all agree on that.
Funny you should mention Willie Horton, Bruce, and then talk about Dukakis and Gore. Gore was the first candidate to use Willie Horton against Dukakis, in a debate in New York. Unfortunately, Gore was either too dumb or too inept to realize just how that would play with the American people.
J.
Gore was the first candidate to use Willie Horton against Dukakis, in a debate in New York.
You’re lying, Mr. Tea. Mr. Gore never uttered the name Willie Horton and never tried to scare people with a scary photo of a black, scary black man.
You folks are the ones who are perpetually indignant and serious about the whole thing.
I declare. Have you never read Ms. Malkin?
The difference is, those of us saying “now it means something” are laughing while we say it.
Does that include Jane Swift? Was she laughing while she said this? This is coming directly from the McCain campaign. I don’t remember any of the “dog whistle” stuff coming from Obama HQ.
So go ahead. Crack yourselves up. Thanks for letting us in on the secret that you’re just joking around.
Quaker, Gore brought up the furlough program, where prisoners serving LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE could be released for weekends, as long as they promised to come back. Dukakis thought that was a fine idea, even AFTER Willie Horton traveled about a thousand miles to commit that brutal rape.
As I said, Gore first broached the issue. He was either too stupid or too inept to make it work.
J.
“Unfortunately, Gore was either too dumb or too inept to realize just how that would play with the American people.”
Or maybe too honorable.
I don’t believe you. I’m pretty sure that would have been used against him in 2000. And I just plain don’t believe you. Not calling you a liar, mind you. I’m just saying that you said something that isn’t true.
Bruce, I don’t give a rat’s ass what you believe or don’t. The facts are clearly established — just look up Willie Horton in Wikipedia, or Google it yourself. I’ve played the “you have to meet my constantly-rising standards of proof, or I win” game far, far too many times.
And simple logic would dictate that it would NOT have been used in the 2000 race. By that time, “Willie Horton” was a buzzphrase NOT for insanely liberal penal policies, so Bush wouldn’t have used it — it would have reminded too many people that his father was the original beneficiary of that mess. And Gore wouldn’t dare use it, because it would remind people of his bringing it up at the New York Daily News debate at the Felt Forum in 1988, just before the New York primary.
J.
Quaker, Gore brought up the furlough program, where prisoners serving LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE could be released for weekends, as long as they promised to come back.
And was the furlough program named Willie Horton? Did Mr. Gore whip out a picture or Horton at the debate?
You’re engaging in a tired game of three card monte here, Mr. Tea. Mr. Gore brought up the furlough program. He did not “use Willie Horton against Dukakis.”
I’m pretty sure that would have been used against him in 2000.
It was used against Gore in 2000, by his primary opponent Bill Bradley.
What. Ever.
My point still stands, that Republicans use underhanded tactics, and Democrats, despite this one example from TWENTY FUCKING YEARS AGO, usually don’t. And not against Republicans.
And you, Jay Tea, despite your reputation for providing the linkiest links and the quoteliest quotes, haven’t provided either. So I still don’t believe you, even though you don’t (supposedly) give a rat’s ass.
“The last time Democrats stooped to this level nationally was the LBJ “daisy” ad in 1964. Since then, underhanded, “southern strategy”, Willie Horton, Atwater-Rove style campaigns have been pretty much exclusively Republican. Portraying Dukakis as a weenie, Gore as a know-it-all smartypants, and Kerry as a gutless coward is what won those elections, and the same kind of thing is what they hope will win this one. They hope the voters haven’t got any smarter and they may be right.
I remember 1972. My boss at the time was trying to get me to vote for Nixon. He said, “McGovern wants to take a thousand dollars of MY MONEY and give it to a n*****r.” That was BEFORE the internet! Republicans love this kind of shit.”
I couldn’t have said it better. Thanks:)
Thanks for listening.
You’re lying, Mr. Tea. Mr. Gore never uttered the name Willie Horton and never tried to scare people with a scary photo of a black, scary black man.
Yeah, I’ve heard that urban legend trotted out before as well. I find it interesting that nobody has been able to give me a link – to a reputable source, mind you – that confirms it. And I seem to recall having heard it debunked a couple of times, but I can’t remember the details.
just look up Willie Horton in Wikipedia
Yeah, because Wikipedia is renowned for the rigorous fact-checking that goes into every sentence posted there.