Comments on: The McCain Lie Volcano http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Dave in SoCal http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114306 Dave in SoCal Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:53:23 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114306 <i>For the uninitiated, I’m referring to Michelle Obama getting a 120% raise shortly after Barack Obama was elected to the Senate — and then Barack steering a cool million to the hospital where she worked.</i> Dammit, Jay Tea, quit lying. It was a 160 percent raise. From $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 in 2005. For the uninitiated, I’m referring to Michelle Obama getting a 120% raise shortly after Barack Obama was elected to the Senate — and then Barack steering a cool million to the hospital where she worked.

Dammit, Jay Tea, quit lying.

It was a 160 percent raise. From $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 in 2005.

]]> By: SFC B http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114158 SFC B Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:26:37 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114158 Is "essentially dead" anything like being "mostly dead"? Cause if it is, then all it would have taken was a pill from Billy Crystal and the Bridge to Nowhere would have been up and stumbling from the bed to confront Prince Humperdink within a couple hours. Is “essentially dead” anything like being “mostly dead”? Cause if it is, then all it would have taken was a pill from Billy Crystal and the Bridge to Nowhere would have been up and stumbling from the bed to confront Prince Humperdink within a couple hours.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114139 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:44:37 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114139 With fixed italic tags: JT: <i>She was instrumental in killing the project.</i> Instrumental? By most unbiased reports the project was already very unpopular and essentially dead a year before she was even governor. With fixed italic tags:

JT: She was instrumental in killing the project.

Instrumental? By most unbiased reports the project was already very unpopular and essentially dead a year before she was even governor.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114137 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:43:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114137 JT: <i>She was instrumental in killing the project. Instrumental? By most unbiased reports the project was already very unpopular and essentially dead a year before she was even governor. JT: She was instrumental in killing the project.

Instrumental? By most unbiased reports the project was already very unpopular and essentially dead a year before she was even governor.

]]> By: Zython http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114121 Zython Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:42:25 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114121 <i>She was instrumental in killing the project. She could have fought for the restoration of the Washington funding, she could have asked the state legislature to fund it, instead she pronounced it dead.</i> And took the money anyways. She was instrumental in killing the project. She could have fought for the restoration of the Washington funding, she could have asked the state legislature to fund it, instead she pronounced it dead.

And took the money anyways.

]]> By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114112 Jay Tea Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:21:07 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114112 She was instrumental in killing the project. She could have fought for the restoration of the Washington funding, she could have asked the state legislature to fund it, instead she pronounced it dead. I think what really keeps Obama and his proxies and surrogates bringing it up is because he feels slighted because he and Biden voted for it twice -- they take it as a personal affront that she turned into such an ingrate. J. She was instrumental in killing the project. She could have fought for the restoration of the Washington funding, she could have asked the state legislature to fund it, instead she pronounced it dead.

I think what really keeps Obama and his proxies and surrogates bringing it up is because he feels slighted because he and Biden voted for it twice — they take it as a personal affront that she turned into such an ingrate.

J.

]]> By: Duros Hussein 62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114110 Duros Hussein 62 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:16:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114110 <i>Ever heard of Ted Stevens, the king of Alaskan pork?</i> "He's under indictment, you know." -Sarah Palin, Sunday Ever heard of Ted Stevens, the king of Alaskan pork?

“He’s under indictment, you know.”
-Sarah Palin, Sunday

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114109 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:14:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114109 JT: <i>I’d still like to hear Obama defend his million-dollar earmark for his wife’s employer.</i> I'd still like to see a fair comment from you on the Palin's tendency to lie, the original topic of this thread. JT: I’d still like to hear Obama defend his million-dollar earmark for his wife’s employer.

I’d still like to see a fair comment from you on the Palin’s tendency to lie, the original topic of this thread.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114107 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:13:06 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114107 CSS: <i>I agree with you there. If the Dems had balls and stood up to Bush, they would have an approval rating at least 50%, maybe more than 60%.</i> Absolutely. The most frustrating thing is that the Dems run scared from doing anything they see as unpopular, and end up more popular because of it. The tragedy is that despite all the evidence that this is obvious, they still don't seem to see it. CSS: I agree with you there. If the Dems had balls and stood up to Bush, they would have an approval rating at least 50%, maybe more than 60%.

Absolutely. The most frustrating thing is that the Dems run scared from doing anything they see as unpopular, and end up more popular because of it.

The tragedy is that despite all the evidence that this is obvious, they still don’t seem to see it.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114105 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:11:18 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114105 Jay: <i>Sean. 20% comment was not JT. </i> Damn. My bad. And I usually try to be so good at telling you guys apart. Sorry, JT. Jay: Sean. 20% comment was not JT.

Damn. My bad. And I usually try to be so good at telling you guys apart. Sorry, JT.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114104 C.S.Strowbridge Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:09:16 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114104 "There’s a joke to be made somewhere in the vein of “If Congress actually had leadership, they wouldn’t be at 9%”, but I’m not that talented a writer." I agree with you there. If the Dems had balls and stood up to Bush, they would have an approval rating at least 50%, maybe more than 60%. “There’s a joke to be made somewhere in the vein of “If Congress actually had leadership, they wouldn’t be at 9%”, but I’m not that talented a writer.”

I agree with you there. If the Dems had balls and stood up to Bush, they would have an approval rating at least 50%, maybe more than 60%.

]]> By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114101 Jay Tea Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:06:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114101 I'd still like to hear Obama defend his million-dollar earmark for his wife's employer. Or Biden defend his multi-million-dollar earmark to his lobbyist son's client. Or either of them defend their votes for the Bridge To Nowhere earmark, especially the second one, where they voted to keep it instead of giving the money to Katrina relief and reconstruction. J. I’d still like to hear Obama defend his million-dollar earmark for his wife’s employer.

Or Biden defend his multi-million-dollar earmark to his lobbyist son’s client.

Or either of them defend their votes for the Bridge To Nowhere earmark, especially the second one, where they voted to keep it instead of giving the money to Katrina relief and reconstruction.

J.

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114092 SaveFarris Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:21:11 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114092 There's a joke to be made somewhere in the vein of "If Congress actually had leadership, they wouldn't be at 9%", but I'm not that talented a writer. There’s a joke to be made somewhere in the vein of “If Congress actually had leadership, they wouldn’t be at 9%”, but I’m not that talented a writer.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114089 Jay Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:54:28 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114089 Sean. 20% comment was not JT. And I was merely being facetious. To be honest, I'm not sure a poll exists that measures the performance of the "congressional leadership." Sean. 20% comment was not JT. And I was merely being facetious.

To be honest, I’m not sure a poll exists that measures the performance of the “congressional leadership.”

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114087 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:45:54 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114087 CSS: <i>The congress as a whole has 9% approval. The congressional leadership has much higher approval ratings.</i> JT: <i>What like, 20%?</i> JT: demonstrating he has no idea where his numbers come from. CSS: The congress as a whole has 9% approval. The congressional leadership has much higher approval ratings.

JT: What like, 20%?

JT: demonstrating he has no idea where his numbers come from.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114085 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:42:36 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114085 JT: <i>I always found the most fervent — and convincing — advocates to be those who had once supported what they now denounce (and vice versa). Is there anyone more irritating than the evangelical ex-smoker? Is there a more compelling speaker about drunk driving than the guy who killed someone doing it?</i> Or the soldier who speaks out against the war he signed up to fight in twice? JT: I always found the most fervent — and convincing — advocates to be those who had once supported what they now denounce (and vice versa). Is there anyone more irritating than the evangelical ex-smoker? Is there a more compelling speaker about drunk driving than the guy who killed someone doing it?

Or the soldier who speaks out against the war he signed up to fight in twice?

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114084 Sean D. Martin Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:41:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114084 JT: <i>Kerry — along with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden — just quietly reversed themselves, and never bothered to explain just what had changed.</i> No true. But the right (and you, in comments near the top of this thread) keep quoting only the "for it before I was against it" sentence and refuse to understand teh point/explanation actually trying to be made. Exactly what you object to when folks "quote" McCain saying he's wants 100 years in Iraq. I thought we'd agreed to stop doing that. JT: Kerry — along with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden — just quietly reversed themselves, and never bothered to explain just what had changed.

No true. But the right (and you, in comments near the top of this thread) keep quoting only the “for it before I was against it” sentence and refuse to understand teh point/explanation actually trying to be made. Exactly what you object to when folks “quote” McCain saying he’s wants 100 years in Iraq.

I thought we’d agreed to stop doing that.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114082 Jay Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:19:52 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114082 <i>The congress as a whole has 9% approval. The congressional leadership has much higher approval ratings. </i> What like, 20%? The congress as a whole has 9% approval. The congressional leadership has much higher approval ratings.

What like, 20%?

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114078 C.S.Strowbridge Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:04:26 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114078 "Again, I implore you, it can’t be both?" That is the safest assumption at this point. “Again, I implore you, it can’t be both?”

That is the safest assumption at this point.

]]> By: Enlightened Liberal http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/08/the-mccain-lie-volcano/#comment-114056 Enlightened Liberal Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:03:51 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9049#comment-114056 Personally, I have nothing against earmarks. They are a key way to get federal tax dollars back into the community. Some are worse than others, like the Bridge to Nowhere. The problem, which JT doesn't want to address, is that Palin is LYING. JT is a POS so he will never get to this, but I'm posting this so that lurkers understand what the real issue is here. CSS said "But you have to know that. So you must be lying, because the only other explanation is that you are completely stupid." Again, I implore you, it can't be both? Personally, I have nothing against earmarks. They are a key way to get federal tax dollars back into the community. Some are worse than others, like the Bridge to Nowhere. The problem, which JT doesn’t want to address, is that Palin is LYING. JT is a POS so he will never get to this, but I’m posting this so that lurkers understand what the real issue is here.

CSS said
“But you have to know that. So you must be lying, because the only other explanation is that you are completely stupid.”

Again, I implore you, it can’t be both?

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