I was referring to a mathematical deduction from your reported Income on you Income Tax Return for the amount of the Mortgage you pay, not the Interest Deduction which existed for the whole time I WORKED FOR THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, and still does …

Like this :

Let’s say in 2008 you incur a $500,000 mortgage…

on your 2008 Income Tax Return you would be entitled to a $50,000 Tax deduction/

You would be entitled to $50,000 a year Income Tax Deduction for each of 9 years thereafter…

Got it, now?

You are an anencephalic juvenile delinquent, with no morals and no scruples…

You do not deserve courtesy or politeness from me , nor will you receive any…

In other words, STEP OFF, PUNK!

You have got on my last nerve!

Also, what about the interest on the loan? Don’t tell me you expect banks to hand out no intrest loans now?

You don’t really want to me to go on, do you?

It gets worse — much worse, after this…

Hmmm…on one hand, part of me wants to leave you be with what little dignity you have left. The other part of me, however, want me to see you get further mangled in the train wreck you created for yourself. Choices…

Allow people to deduct 10% of the purchase price of their home off their income every year until they have charged off 100% — watch what happens to real estate…

It gets worse — much worse, after this…

I couldn’t care less how you feel about me.

If you had insight to match your pettiness, spitefulness and mean – spiritedness, you would be wise beyons your years …

Those things are probably what’s keeping me sane in this political climate.

You said nothing meaningful, and added another epithet to your ever growing catalog of insults.

If you had insight to match your pettiness, spitefulness and mean – spiritedness, you would be wise beyons your years …

I pity you …

Safe to say, this was a throw away piece.

You eyesight might be going, old man.

Just admit that you got lazy and didn’t bother to read what I wrote.

Sorry, nothing there …

Better luck next time …

Here’s a hint : When you don’t know what I’M talking about, don’t make it worse, by not knowing what YOU’RE talking about ..

I think you mean the “Wheel of Fortune”?

The government sucks wealth out of the economy ,and returns nothing.

So roads, schools, police officers, fire fighters, sewage systems, prisons, and military are “nothing”?

I didn’t want to vote for Bush in 2000 or 2004, but I certainly wasn’t going to vote for Kerry or Gore…

Can’t let those fags have their way, now can you?

Reduce all government spending from the Supreme Court to the Civil Service by 1% a year — every year . See if I care …

Well, if your apartment burned down because the fire department had a faulty hose nozzle that they couldn’t afford to replace, then you’d probably care.

Second, reduce Congressional salaries to the MEDIAN salary in the US , and watch what happens to Congress…

No Republican would ever run for Congress?

Third, advise al-Qaida that we are not pulling out of either Iraq or Afghanistan, until THEY stop terrorizing the local nationals — and not one day sooner …

Ok, first off, I thought you were against “negotiating” with al-Qaida. Secondly, I’m pretty sure they know that the U.S. would be hemmoraging funds faster than them. Also, they would probably make sure the Arabic media spin was in their favor, so there goes popular support.

Allow people to deduct 10% of the purchase price of their home off their income every year until they have charged off 100% — watch what happens to real estate…

Nevermind the fact that most people can’t afford to pay off their home that quickly. And we have a system of paying off houses gradually. It’s called a mortgage.

If I were President of the United States,

I would jump off a bridge.

I know of a layer of mid – level management in Civil Service that could disappear and save the Federal Government billions in wasted time, and salaries, and pension money…

So what is this magic layer?

Remove all Federal Taxes from Gasoline, and goodbye high gasoline prices !

Because that’s the sole contributor to high gas prices?

I actually kinda like the no auto credit and the student loan thing, but as someone coming from Houston, I can tell you there are places where you NEED a car to get around unless you live in just the right place.

Frank, listen, the government provides its citizens with important services that the industrial world won’t provide (due to no one willing to pay for it). If the government disappeared today, you would probably be dead within a week.

“If Conservatives act like liberals when in power, then you don’t have a failure of conservatism, you have a”
WORKING GOVERNMENT.

I told him that Democrats want to take my money and give it to the poor, and Republicans want to take my money and give it to their cronies. Since I have a better chance of being poor than being a crony of a Republican, I vote Democratic.
;D

I told him that it was largely genetic. My grandfather was a FDR democrat, who was very involved in union activity in the 1930s. That has been passed down.

I told him that some people feel strongly about certain issues, like abortion or guns. I don’t care because I’m not personally interested in either one. And that I considered them to be phony issues, because there isn’t a gnat’s eyelash of difference once they get into office.

I am sensitive to employment issues. Democratic administrations have a much better record at keeping people employed then the Republicans do. I printed out a graph of unemployment rates since 1948. I showed him the spiking upward trends from 1952-1960 and from 1968-1976. I showed hime the steadily decreasing trends from 1960-1968 and 1992-2000. I showed him the double digit unemployment spike in 1982.

I told him the stock market also performed better under Democratic administrations.

Then.

He went and asked his mother, my wife. She said she’s a Democrat “because the Republicans are a bunch of lying bastards.”

He said, “Dad said it was genetic”
She said “It’s genetic that they’re lying bastards?”

Yep

This is concrete: Republican “conservative” governments have lowered taxes, and promised increased tax revenues to pay for them. It hasn’t happened

It has happened — every single year…

What did not happened was that government never stopped increasing spending faster than revenues … That is not how the Laffer Curve was intended to work.

The “crap about a toll booth”, while beyond the comprehension of the Blog’s Class Clown, makes it quite clear that if spending (S) is greater than revenue (R) by some number D (the deficit) , then you will never reduce the deficit by increasing R, when Spending is always increased to some number, D X, where S is once again greater than R.

The fact that the Republicans resorted to deficit spending to buy votes, and retain power, only highlights that point, it doesn’t refute it…

If Conservatives act like liberals when in power, then you don’t have a failure of conservatism, you have a failure of Conservatives

The government sucks wealth out of the economy ,and returns nothing.

The Republicans that went on a spending spree while they were in power, and the President who hardly ever vetoed anything weren’t even acting responsibly, let alone conservatively…

I didn’t want to vote for Bush in 2000 or 2004, but I certainly wasn’t going to vote for Kerry or Gore…

When I say Government spending is responsible for deficits , I don’t mean liberal or conservative spending, I mean Government spending — all government spending .

Reduce all government spending from the Supreme Court to the Civil Service by 1% a year — every year . See if I care …

Second, reduce Congressional salaries to the MEDIAN salary in the US , and watch what happens to Congress…

Third, advise al-Qaida that we are not pulling out of either Iraq or Afghanistan, until THEY stop terrorizing the local nationals — and not one day sooner …

Allow people to deduct 10% of the purchase price of their home off their income every year until they have charged off 100% — watch what happens to real estate…

Remove all Federal Taxes from Gasoline, and goodbye high gasoline prices !

If I were President of the United States, I know of a layer of mid – level management in Civil Service that could disappear and save the Federal Government billions in wasted time, and salaries, and pension money…

Give people that own no motor vehicles tax credit or income deductions for taking public transportation or a bicycle or walking to work, and watch what happens to pollution…

And why do people who live at or below the poverty level, pay any taxes at all?

And why can’t people who receive government benefits work without being penalized ?

Restore the National Defense Education Act that gave College Graduates 10% off their College Loan for every year they taught up to 5 years in the first 10 after they have graduated from College …

Hey, “fiscal responsibility” is somethin’ they tried–no, REALLY– but the Dems just wouldn’t go for it. The nasty Dems even managed to block fiscal responsibility even when they were in the minority and couldn’t vote down the Repubs spending increases! What perfidy! They managed to block W’s veto pen until the 2006 elections– and now look what happened! Boy, those tax n’ spend libberuls really messed up– just look at that deficit they created!

Why bother with reality? Vote McCain! If you’re running off a cliff– run faster to avoid it! In the same direction. While shouting that it’s someone else’s fault for wanting to turn around….

Isn’t it? Then why do they suck at “fiscal responsibility” so bad?

“Stop taxing Capital Gains, what happens next? Investment increase.”

Conservatives don’t want to deal with this: “And what if it doesn’t?” Add that question to each of your final statements, and you get what I find objectionable about the current Conservative mind-set. Like Marxism, it’s relying on received wisdom that can’t be challenged.

Your economic primer was simple and lucid. Kind of off the point, but it was simple and lucid.

Remember Zeno’s Paradox? He used simple, unassailable logic to prove that it’s impossible for an arrow to reach its target.

You need to look at what I was saying: Conservatives have lost the ability to apply critical thinking to the concrete.

This is concrete: Republican “conservative” governments have lowered taxes, and promised increased tax revenues to pay for them. It hasn’t happened. Now the Republican candidate is running as a fiscal conservative, and planning to do the same thing that hasn’t worked yet.

Dare I say, “Laffler curve?” Conservatives loved it, Laffler was lionized by WSJ and Forbes, and the revenue never materialized. I haven’t heard from him lately.

This is concrete (and the point of my post): Fiscal conservative government has produced big deficits in its last four at-bats.

We’re told that tax cuts will pay for themselves. They never have.

Conservatives blame the costs of big government. But they don’t cut it because they can’t. There are a lot of things that the government has to do, services that it HAS to provide, and they either have to be paid for, or paid for by borrowing.

If the Republicans had to follow through on all the spending cuts they would have to make to pay for the tax cuts, they’d be lynched. People DO expect the government to do more than provide an army.

If Liberals didn’t exist, Conservatives would have to invent them. Deficits? Hey the Dems made us do it! They won’t cut spending– it’s no us, it’s them!

The Republicans had seven years to prove that Conservative ideology works. The Republicans REALLY DID have the congressional majorities they needed, and they INCREASED spending.

Anyway, I don’t know if anyone’s following this thread (Frank???), but I’m working, and when I’m posting, I’m not working, and I’m self-employed.

Yes, that’s right: I’m a small businessman, and I’m a Democrat.

I’d be curious to see a reply, but I don’t think I’ll get any more than Conservative boilerplate. Which proves my point.

Still looking over those secretary applications…

The use of imagination, confrontation of an opposing idea, or dealing with a person’s rather attempting to deal with that person appears to be forbidden.

Playing word games , and attempting to get a person to defend statements he never made seem to be the order of the day…

Instead of trying to outwit me , be clever, or impress your friends with your repartee, why don’t you ever think, ” I call myself a well – educated, well – informed liberal. I read Oliver’s blog, and a lot of other stuff, every day .

“If I can’t dispute any of Frank’s comments, or dispute any of his arguments — which are, essentially, simple statements of conservative opinion, and therefore, easy to refute, I must look like a poor representative of my beliefs — and my candidate”

Think about it .