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		<title>By: bcw</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112960</link>
		<dc:creator>bcw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while   i hope   you are  right. there is a large part of the county that likes or at the very least are  not bothered  not   seing people of color at a republician  convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while   i hope   you are  right. there is a large part of the county that likes or at the very least are  not bothered  not   seing people of color at a republician  convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112883</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m confident that in the future as many of these incoming groups assimilate, they too will vote conservative.&lt;/i&gt;

Didn&#039;t you say the other day you thought minorities voted overwhelmingly Democratic because they wanted more free stuff? Can you even fathom how insulting that would be to a minority Democrat? What do you suppose is a better way to win votes from a demographic - demean them en masse as welfare queens, or represent their interests in your platform?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m confident that in the future as many of these incoming groups assimilate, they too will vote conservative.</i></p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you say the other day you thought minorities voted overwhelmingly Democratic because they wanted more free stuff? Can you even fathom how insulting that would be to a minority Democrat? What do you suppose is a better way to win votes from a demographic &#8211; demean them en masse as welfare queens, or represent their interests in your platform?</p>
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		<title>By: anotherbozo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112880</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherbozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant &quot;strange black men.&quot;  I never met his grandmother.  :-)</description>
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		<title>By: anotherbozo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112878</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherbozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Again, is Joe Biden still a racist Oliver?&quot;

Changey, every white person in this racist society is tainted, certainly of Biden&#039;s (and my) age.  Not sure you have the maturity to understand what I&#039;m talking about, but one never knows.

Biden once made a supposedly innocent joke about convenience stores and Indian accents, harmless, but...  This isn&#039;t vicious, white-supremecist stuff, just patronizing, sloppy, culturally-conditioned, relatively benign racism.  But as a Veep, Biden&#039;s advantages far outweigh these lapses ...as did Obama&#039;s grandmother&#039;s good qualities outweigh her stereotyped fears of strange black me. 

I answer for Oliver in case he doesn&#039;t want to waste his time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Again, is Joe Biden still a racist Oliver?&#8221;</p>
<p>Changey, every white person in this racist society is tainted, certainly of Biden&#8217;s (and my) age.  Not sure you have the maturity to understand what I&#8217;m talking about, but one never knows.</p>
<p>Biden once made a supposedly innocent joke about convenience stores and Indian accents, harmless, but&#8230;  This isn&#8217;t vicious, white-supremecist stuff, just patronizing, sloppy, culturally-conditioned, relatively benign racism.  But as a Veep, Biden&#8217;s advantages far outweigh these lapses &#8230;as did Obama&#8217;s grandmother&#8217;s good qualities outweigh her stereotyped fears of strange black me. </p>
<p>I answer for Oliver in case he doesn&#8217;t want to waste his time.</p>
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		<title>By: j mccann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112877</link>
		<dc:creator>j mccann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Federal gov’t is bigger than it ever was thanks to G.W. Bush and a Republican Congress up to 2006 (even if you disregard military spending post 9/11).

What it this “conservatism” I keep hearing you chirp about jmcann? Smaller government? No. Less intrusive government, thanks to FISA and wire-taps? No.

Honestly, you mention “conservatism” like there’s a group of Republicans in Washington who actually practice it. They don’t.&quot;

Jaim.....no shit. part of the reason his approval rating is in the high 20&#039;s. Thing is, between McCain and Obama, McCain is much more conservative that Obama is, and his selection of Palin has solidified my vote. 

And OW, since your convinced that it&#039;s a racial ideology, (WTF?????) explain to me how the major demographic changes that have ALREADY occured haven&#039;t resulted in a Democratic stranglehold for the last several decades. This country is pretty much split 50/50 still. 

Like I said, don&#039;t count your chickens before the eggs hatch. I&#039;m confident that in the future as many of these incoming groups assimilate, they too will vote conservative. Again, it&#039;s not a racial ideology, and not everyone is as race-obsessed as you are. 

You have you own biases and racist tendencies, and I don&#039;t even think you see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Federal gov’t is bigger than it ever was thanks to G.W. Bush and a Republican Congress up to 2006 (even if you disregard military spending post 9/11).</p>
<p>What it this “conservatism” I keep hearing you chirp about jmcann? Smaller government? No. Less intrusive government, thanks to FISA and wire-taps? No.</p>
<p>Honestly, you mention “conservatism” like there’s a group of Republicans in Washington who actually practice it. They don’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jaim&#8230;..no shit. part of the reason his approval rating is in the high 20&#8217;s. Thing is, between McCain and Obama, McCain is much more conservative that Obama is, and his selection of Palin has solidified my vote. </p>
<p>And OW, since your convinced that it&#8217;s a racial ideology, (WTF?????) explain to me how the major demographic changes that have ALREADY occured haven&#8217;t resulted in a Democratic stranglehold for the last several decades. This country is pretty much split 50/50 still. </p>
<p>Like I said, don&#8217;t count your chickens before the eggs hatch. I&#8217;m confident that in the future as many of these incoming groups assimilate, they too will vote conservative. Again, it&#8217;s not a racial ideology, and not everyone is as race-obsessed as you are. </p>
<p>You have you own biases and racist tendencies, and I don&#8217;t even think you see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Federal gov&#039;t is bigger than it ever was thanks to G.W. Bush and a Republican Congress up to 2006 (even if you disregard military spending post 9/11).

What it this &quot;conservatism&quot; I keep hearing you chirp about jmcann?  Smaller government?  No.  Less intrusive government, thanks to FISA and wire-taps?  No.

Honestly, you mention &quot;conservatism&quot; like there&#039;s a group of Republicans in Washington who actually practice it.  They don&#039;t.

Me?  I want smaller government.  But just as importantly, I want a government that _works well_.  Hire smart people.  Hire dedicated people, not ideologically motivated appointees.  And do your fucking job.

I&#039;ll admit that Conservatism has some merits as a political ideology.  Question is:  Who&#039;s a true Conservative?  Close as I can tell, it was Bill Clinton, who managed to make both our economy and our government work reasonably well, cut back well-fare, and made Americans optimistic about the future.

Back to your sippy-cup jmccann.  You lose yet again.  You keep thinking it&#039;s 2002 or something, but it&#039;s not.  America gets the best of both worlds in Obama -- competence and optimism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Federal gov&#8217;t is bigger than it ever was thanks to G.W. Bush and a Republican Congress up to 2006 (even if you disregard military spending post 9/11).</p>
<p>What it this &#8220;conservatism&#8221; I keep hearing you chirp about jmcann?  Smaller government?  No.  Less intrusive government, thanks to FISA and wire-taps?  No.</p>
<p>Honestly, you mention &#8220;conservatism&#8221; like there&#8217;s a group of Republicans in Washington who actually practice it.  They don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Me?  I want smaller government.  But just as importantly, I want a government that _works well_.  Hire smart people.  Hire dedicated people, not ideologically motivated appointees.  And do your fucking job.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit that Conservatism has some merits as a political ideology.  Question is:  Who&#8217;s a true Conservative?  Close as I can tell, it was Bill Clinton, who managed to make both our economy and our government work reasonably well, cut back well-fare, and made Americans optimistic about the future.</p>
<p>Back to your sippy-cup jmccann.  You lose yet again.  You keep thinking it&#8217;s 2002 or something, but it&#8217;s not.  America gets the best of both worlds in Obama &#8212; competence and optimism.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112825</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus Christ, shut up.</description>
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		<title>By: Changey McHoperson</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112811</link>
		<dc:creator>Changey McHoperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, is Joe Biden still a racist Oliver?</description>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112808</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Conservatism isn’t a racial ideology as you think it is.&lt;/i&gt;
So there should be plenty of black, hispanic, and asian cons. Oh, wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Conservatism isn’t a racial ideology as you think it is.</i><br />
So there should be plenty of black, hispanic, and asian cons. Oh, wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: j mccann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112805</link>
		<dc:creator>j mccann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;m wondering.....just what will you do, if say, perhaps.....some of these minority groups that democrats have essentially bought off for half a century, decide &quot;hey...maybe I don&#039;t want to pay half my income to taxes&quot; and become conservatives? 

Conservatism isn&#039;t a racial ideology as you think it is. And many of the demographics you think you have wrapped up for an eternity are more socially conservative on average than all of us evil white people. 

As people move here, assimilate, and become frustrated with oppressive taxation and big government, they&#039;ll start voting conservative. It&#039;s happened before. The irish for example, hated and mistreated when they moved here, voted heavily for democrats, and now most irish-americans lean conservative. Hmm....

Don&#039;t count your chickens before the eggs have hatched. Not everyone votes out of racial loyalty, OW. And there&#039;s nothing genetically ingrained in white guys that makes them not want to pay for universal health care. 

Your own ignorance and bigotry is astonishing sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m wondering&#8230;..just what will you do, if say, perhaps&#8230;..some of these minority groups that democrats have essentially bought off for half a century, decide &#8220;hey&#8230;maybe I don&#8217;t want to pay half my income to taxes&#8221; and become conservatives? </p>
<p>Conservatism isn&#8217;t a racial ideology as you think it is. And many of the demographics you think you have wrapped up for an eternity are more socially conservative on average than all of us evil white people. </p>
<p>As people move here, assimilate, and become frustrated with oppressive taxation and big government, they&#8217;ll start voting conservative. It&#8217;s happened before. The irish for example, hated and mistreated when they moved here, voted heavily for democrats, and now most irish-americans lean conservative. Hmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t count your chickens before the eggs have hatched. Not everyone votes out of racial loyalty, OW. And there&#8217;s nothing genetically ingrained in white guys that makes them not want to pay for universal health care. </p>
<p>Your own ignorance and bigotry is astonishing sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Changey McHoperson</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112803</link>
		<dc:creator>Changey McHoperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Biden still a racist Oliver?</description>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112801</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve had a more racist poster on here than j mccann, but anyways. Hundreds of years of rich white guys having their way is not a bogeyman. It&#039;s reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve had a more racist poster on here than j mccann, but anyways. Hundreds of years of rich white guys having their way is not a bogeyman. It&#8217;s reality.</p>
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		<title>By: j mccann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112800</link>
		<dc:creator>j mccann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;m wondering what you whiners are going to do when whites are a minority also and you can&#039;t use us as a bogeyman?

Oh, please tell me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m wondering what you whiners are going to do when whites are a minority also and you can&#8217;t use us as a bogeyman?</p>
<p>Oh, please tell me.</p>
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		<title>By: j mccann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112797</link>
		<dc:creator>j mccann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t handle all that whiteness. Live is much better in living color!&quot;

Go Obama / Biden 2008!

Hey Ursula, kiss my white ass, you racist piece of shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can’t handle all that whiteness. Live is much better in living color!&#8221;</p>
<p>Go Obama / Biden 2008!</p>
<p>Hey Ursula, kiss my white ass, you racist piece of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Changey McHoperson</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112793</link>
		<dc:creator>Changey McHoperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right, Oliver said these inspirational words...

“His presidential campaign is the Titanic. His idiot mouth has killed it. The audio of Biden’s comments are out and they don’t change a thing. What he said was racist, offensive, and not representing any of the qualities of the Democratic party or America.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, Oliver said these inspirational words&#8230;</p>
<p>“His presidential campaign is the Titanic. His idiot mouth has killed it. The audio of Biden’s comments are out and they don’t change a thing. What he said was racist, offensive, and not representing any of the qualities of the Democratic party or America.”</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112790</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet Obama chose him for a running mate. Maybe he considered factors from his life other than those thirty idiotic seconds. Hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet Obama chose him for a running mate. Maybe he considered factors from his life other than those thirty idiotic seconds. Hmm.</p>
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		<title>By: -=topper=-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-=topper=-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a friend the fields that I am sure would have a point a view about the list that Frank presented. It needs to be said though that these people were appointed and not elected. That is far far harder for a minority to do, unless of course they are a democrat.

These our house folks, but they need to consider something, like Colin Powell they too can be thrown under a bus. 

Foreign policy experience, diplomatic experience, woman of color smart and talented, all these atributes, beg the question, why didn&#039;t the McCain camp choose Condileesa Rice?

-=t=-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a friend the fields that I am sure would have a point a view about the list that Frank presented. It needs to be said though that these people were appointed and not elected. That is far far harder for a minority to do, unless of course they are a democrat.</p>
<p>These our house folks, but they need to consider something, like Colin Powell they too can be thrown under a bus. </p>
<p>Foreign policy experience, diplomatic experience, woman of color smart and talented, all these atributes, beg the question, why didn&#8217;t the McCain camp choose Condileesa Rice?</p>
<p>-=t=-</p>
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		<title>By: Changey McHoperson</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112786</link>
		<dc:creator>Changey McHoperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said this:

&quot;His presidential campaign is the Titanic. His idiot mouth has killed it. The audio of Biden’s comments are out and they don’t change a thing. What he said was racist, offensive, and not representing any of the qualities of the Democratic party or America.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;His presidential campaign is the Titanic. His idiot mouth has killed it. The audio of Biden’s comments are out and they don’t change a thing. What he said was racist, offensive, and not representing any of the qualities of the Democratic party or America.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/the-mostly-white-republicans/#comment-112779</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said above, Republicans have to appoint their minority picks who stand against other minorities because whenever they run them for office they get their asses handed to them. 

Frank is the kind of person locked into his own &quot;analysis&quot; (and unable to process outside information) who will probably tell us for weeks how Democrats are going to lose. Trust me, I heard it in 2006 when he said the same thing. He was wrong then, and he&#039;ll be wrong in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said above, Republicans have to appoint their minority picks who stand against other minorities because whenever they run them for office they get their asses handed to them. </p>
<p>Frank is the kind of person locked into his own &#8220;analysis&#8221; (and unable to process outside information) who will probably tell us for weeks how Democrats are going to lose. Trust me, I heard it in 2006 when he said the same thing. He was wrong then, and he&#8217;ll be wrong in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Wallace took 11% of the vote in 1968 ...

The Democrats never understood why until 1972 , when Nixon cleaned McGovern&#039;s clock in 49 -- count &#039;em - 49 states ...

Still want to talk about a Southern Strategy -- or did you mean &quot;Lower 48&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Wallace took 11% of the vote in 1968 &#8230;</p>
<p>The Democrats never understood why until 1972 , when Nixon cleaned McGovern&#8217;s clock in 49 &#8212; count &#8216;em &#8211; 49 states &#8230;</p>
<p>Still want to talk about a Southern Strategy &#8212; or did you mean &#8220;Lower 48&#8243;?</p>
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