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	<title>Comments on: Cindy McCain&#8217;s Mortgage-Sized Dress</title>
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		<title>By: z_adura</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112967</link>
		<dc:creator>z_adura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former Republican, I love to hear this amazing pushback from the likes of Frank and co. who somehow believe that the Republican moneyed interests give a shit about them.  

The reality:  They laugh at you. They mock you.  They can&#039;t stand that they have to pay to employ you.  John McCain doesn&#039;t know your struggle.  His wife doesn&#039;t care about your kids.  In fact, this is a virtue among them because, by gum, they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps... even when, like John and Cindy, they didn&#039;t.

Go ahead fellas, continue to be Republican monkeys and court jesters.  Someday we will have an economic system like Brazil and you will be on the outside of the gated communities right next to the Democrats who wanted to change things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former Republican, I love to hear this amazing pushback from the likes of Frank and co. who somehow believe that the Republican moneyed interests give a shit about them.  </p>
<p>The reality:  They laugh at you. They mock you.  They can&#8217;t stand that they have to pay to employ you.  John McCain doesn&#8217;t know your struggle.  His wife doesn&#8217;t care about your kids.  In fact, this is a virtue among them because, by gum, they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps&#8230; even when, like John and Cindy, they didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Go ahead fellas, continue to be Republican monkeys and court jesters.  Someday we will have an economic system like Brazil and you will be on the outside of the gated communities right next to the Democrats who wanted to change things.</p>
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		<title>By: LMMatthews</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112950</link>
		<dc:creator>LMMatthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$300K, huh? DAMN.
You&#039;d think she&#039;d look better! Who are her fashion advisors - Elvira, the Crypt Keeper, and Midas?
I wonder if either party (and I do have to include the Obamas here) has shopped at, oh, I dunno - SEARS or JCP in the last five years? You know, like the average folks they want to represent?
I&#039;m just sayin&#039; ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$300K, huh? DAMN.<br />
You&#8217;d think she&#8217;d look better! Who are her fashion advisors &#8211; Elvira, the Crypt Keeper, and Midas?<br />
I wonder if either party (and I do have to include the Obamas here) has shopped at, oh, I dunno &#8211; SEARS or JCP in the last five years? You know, like the average folks they want to represent?<br />
I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And, CSS, you can’t swing a dead cat in a room full of Democratic / Liberals without hitting an elitist …&lt;/i&gt;

...

This is coming from a guy who sees himself as the be-all and end-all judge of what is and isn&#039;t &quot;religion&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And, CSS, you can’t swing a dead cat in a room full of Democratic / Liberals without hitting an elitist …</i></p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>This is coming from a guy who sees himself as the be-all and end-all judge of what is and isn&#8217;t &#8220;religion&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112921</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SFC B, people in the rust belt were promised a better tomorrow. It turned out to be a better tomorrow for people other than them.

Look, I don&#039;t dispute what you&#039;re saying, but the 80s and 90s preached a gospel that tax cuts and free trade were the way to prosperity, and for a lot of people, that didn&#039;t happen, and those people were lied to. Instead of Republicans &lt;i&gt;saying they were sorry&lt;/i&gt; and actually working to fix the problems in exchange for votes, they simply felt that the best way to keep getting the votes of the people they had hurt was to lie to them and whip of anti-gay fervor instead of actually bothering with focusing on jobs and economic development.

And then the Republicans parade around in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of jewelry and declare, &quot;sure, maybe things are tough economically, and I can&#039;t help you with that right now, but at least we can get together and keep down gay people.&quot; It&#039;s almost as though their culture-warrior appeals &lt;i&gt;depend&lt;/i&gt; on keeping the rust belt down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SFC B, people in the rust belt were promised a better tomorrow. It turned out to be a better tomorrow for people other than them.</p>
<p>Look, I don&#8217;t dispute what you&#8217;re saying, but the 80s and 90s preached a gospel that tax cuts and free trade were the way to prosperity, and for a lot of people, that didn&#8217;t happen, and those people were lied to. Instead of Republicans <i>saying they were sorry</i> and actually working to fix the problems in exchange for votes, they simply felt that the best way to keep getting the votes of the people they had hurt was to lie to them and whip of anti-gay fervor instead of actually bothering with focusing on jobs and economic development.</p>
<p>And then the Republicans parade around in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of jewelry and declare, &#8220;sure, maybe things are tough economically, and I can&#8217;t help you with that right now, but at least we can get together and keep down gay people.&#8221; It&#8217;s almost as though their culture-warrior appeals <i>depend</i> on keeping the rust belt down.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112900</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So cute. Trying to justify someone who wouldn&#039;t spit on them if they were on fire.</description>
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		<title>By: SFC B</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFC B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyro, I doubt that the employees of the auto factories opened in the US by the Japanese auto makers would agree with your assessment that globalization didn&#039;t help.  

Michigan earned their Rust Belt status by allowing themselves to become too reliant upon the auto industry.  Up until very recently the Big Three have been unable to make cars which can compete across the board with imports, and they have been losing market share and bleeding money as a result.  That the price of fuel has only further driven Michigan&#039;s legacy businesses into the red only hastened that by making their one dominant product, truck/SUVs, unwanted.  Between being managed by incompetent and overpaid execs, and having what few good ideas they&#039;ve had stifled by a labor union that has de facto control over operations, automobile plants in Michigan are doomed.  The state will continue to follow unless they move beyond sentimentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyro, I doubt that the employees of the auto factories opened in the US by the Japanese auto makers would agree with your assessment that globalization didn&#8217;t help.  </p>
<p>Michigan earned their Rust Belt status by allowing themselves to become too reliant upon the auto industry.  Up until very recently the Big Three have been unable to make cars which can compete across the board with imports, and they have been losing market share and bleeding money as a result.  That the price of fuel has only further driven Michigan&#8217;s legacy businesses into the red only hastened that by making their one dominant product, truck/SUVs, unwanted.  Between being managed by incompetent and overpaid execs, and having what few good ideas they&#8217;ve had stifled by a labor union that has de facto control over operations, automobile plants in Michigan are doomed.  The state will continue to follow unless they move beyond sentimentality.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112893</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone should foreclose on Cindy, cuz we can&#039;t afford having her in the White House.</description>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112890</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is just classic:

Barack Obama isn&#039;t like normal Americans! Cindy McCain can wear $100,000 earrings if she wants--doesn&#039;t mean anything!!

Is there any contradiction so glaring you people won&#039;t say it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is just classic:</p>
<p>Barack Obama isn&#8217;t like normal Americans! Cindy McCain can wear $100,000 earrings if she wants&#8211;doesn&#8217;t mean anything!!</p>
<p>Is there any contradiction so glaring you people won&#8217;t say it?</p>
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		<title>By: Out of Touch Watch Part 7 &#124; Comments from Left Field</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112886</link>
		<dc:creator>Out of Touch Watch Part 7 &#124; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the other hand, with the $300K outfit Mrs. McCain was wearing, her dress could afford to buy the kind of house my family needs.  Again, don&#8217;t get me [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the other hand, with the $300K outfit Mrs. McCain was wearing, her dress could afford to buy the kind of house my family needs.  Again, don&#8217;t get me [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KXB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112884</link>
		<dc:creator>KXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - before the Paliniancs get ahead of themselves, you may want to refresh your math and map skills:

&quot;The Electoral Reality&quot;
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; before the Paliniancs get ahead of themselves, you may want to refresh your math and map skills:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Electoral Reality&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/</a></p>
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		<title>By: KXB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112882</link>
		<dc:creator>KXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;According to the diamond expert who commented in Vanity Fair , the earring can’t possibly be worth more than $60,000, which reduces the total by $220,000 to $80,000, or “Republican wives wear expensive clothes to important speech”&quot;

And nothing is more reliable than an unnamed &quot;expert&quot; who posts anonymously, versus the people who actually were quoted by Vanity Fair, with their name for all to see and criticize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;According to the diamond expert who commented in Vanity Fair , the earring can’t possibly be worth more than $60,000, which reduces the total by $220,000 to $80,000, or “Republican wives wear expensive clothes to important speech”&#8221;</p>
<p>And nothing is more reliable than an unnamed &#8220;expert&#8221; who posts anonymously, versus the people who actually were quoted by Vanity Fair, with their name for all to see and criticize.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-mortgage-sized-dress/#comment-112876</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does &quot;elitist&quot; even mean in this context?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does &#8220;elitist&#8221; even mean in this context?</p>
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		<title>By: (: Tom :)</title>
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		<dc:creator>(: Tom :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And, CSS, you can’t swing a dead cat in a room full of Democratic / Liberals without hitting an elitist …&lt;/i&gt;

... says the guy supporting the party who akes tax money from har working average americans, and gives tax money to filthy rich oil corpo-weasels, beer baroness trophy wives, and rich fourth generation wastrels.  While borrowing even more money for the poor people&#039;s decendents unto the fiftieth generation to pay back.

Smarter Republican&#039;t ditto monkeys, please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And, CSS, you can’t swing a dead cat in a room full of Democratic / Liberals without hitting an elitist …</i></p>
<p>&#8230; says the guy supporting the party who akes tax money from har working average americans, and gives tax money to filthy rich oil corpo-weasels, beer baroness trophy wives, and rich fourth generation wastrels.  While borrowing even more money for the poor people&#8217;s decendents unto the fiftieth generation to pay back.</p>
<p>Smarter Republican&#8217;t ditto monkeys, please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This became an issue as soon as the Republicans accused Obama of being an elitist.&quot;

Much earlier, if you recall John Edwards&#039; haircut from 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This became an issue as soon as the Republicans accused Obama of being an elitist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Much earlier, if you recall John Edwards&#8217; haircut from 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;AND, elitism is not in the price of the clothes (BTW, what was the price tag on the Obama duds on “Family Night”), but in the attitude …&lt;/i&gt;

Evidently, elitism, like patriotism, has less to do with actions than with rhetoric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>AND, elitism is not in the price of the clothes (BTW, what was the price tag on the Obama duds on “Family Night”), but in the attitude …</i></p>
<p>Evidently, elitism, like patriotism, has less to do with actions than with rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank DiSalle, Republicans promised that globalization and the new economy would produce prosperity and wonderfulness. What was the result? The rust belt of Michigan and Ohio. When the Republicans couldn&#039;t deliver for their constituents, they decided to center their campaign around riling their constituents up into an anti-gay frenzy and paranoid fear-mongering that if Kerry were elected, the Bible would be banned, their guns would be taken away, and they would be forced to take gay spouses.

And, to no one&#039;s surprise, they bring forth a potential first family who &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t understand the value of a dollar&lt;/i&gt; by overpaying for jewelry in a rather tacky, tawdry fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank DiSalle, Republicans promised that globalization and the new economy would produce prosperity and wonderfulness. What was the result? The rust belt of Michigan and Ohio. When the Republicans couldn&#8217;t deliver for their constituents, they decided to center their campaign around riling their constituents up into an anti-gay frenzy and paranoid fear-mongering that if Kerry were elected, the Bible would be banned, their guns would be taken away, and they would be forced to take gay spouses.</p>
<p>And, to no one&#8217;s surprise, they bring forth a potential first family who <i>doesn&#8217;t understand the value of a dollar</i> by overpaying for jewelry in a rather tacky, tawdry fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that explains it.  Mrs. McSame wears $60,000 earrings to her functions, NOT $280,000 earrings.  Certainly the everyday American woman can relate to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that explains it.  Mrs. McSame wears $60,000 earrings to her functions, NOT $280,000 earrings.  Certainly the everyday American woman can relate to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254908,00.html

Spend your money as you wish, but at least don&#039;t be a hypocrite. I&#039;ve never seen Cindy McCain running around saying not to buy stuff..

Joey</description>
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<p>Spend your money as you wish, but at least don&#8217;t be a hypocrite. I&#8217;ve never seen Cindy McCain running around saying not to buy stuff..</p>
<p>Joey</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the diamond expert who commented in Vanity Fair , the earring can&#039;t possibly be worth more than $60,000, which reduces the total by $220,000 to $80,000, or &quot;Republican wives wear expensive clothes to important speech&quot;

AND, elitism is not in the price of the clothes (BTW, what was the price tag on the Obama duds on &quot;Family Night&quot;), but in the attitude ...

Accusing whole blocs of voters of bitterly turning to religion and gun ownership , because they are economically deprived, says more about an elitist attitude than $60,000 earrings [which might have been rented]  

And, CSS,  you can&#039;t swing a dead cat in a room full of Democratic / Liberals without hitting an elitist ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the diamond expert who commented in Vanity Fair , the earring can&#8217;t possibly be worth more than $60,000, which reduces the total by $220,000 to $80,000, or &#8220;Republican wives wear expensive clothes to important speech&#8221;</p>
<p>AND, elitism is not in the price of the clothes (BTW, what was the price tag on the Obama duds on &#8220;Family Night&#8221;), but in the attitude &#8230;</p>
<p>Accusing whole blocs of voters of bitterly turning to religion and gun ownership , because they are economically deprived, says more about an elitist attitude than $60,000 earrings [which might have been rented]  </p>
<p>And, CSS,  you can&#8217;t swing a dead cat in a room full of Democratic / Liberals without hitting an elitist &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And before any jumps in...

This became an issue as soon as the Republicans accused Obama of being an elitist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And before any jumps in&#8230;</p>
<p>This became an issue as soon as the Republicans accused Obama of being an elitist.</p>
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