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September 3rd, 2008
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Oliver Willis
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Yes, another in a long line of bogus attempts to make a pretty innocuous statement into something racist.
“I see racists….”
Heh. From the T.P. comments:
“McCain/Palin:
“Country First… Then Maybe Some Classic Rock”
From the link:
Or that you don’t see a lot of conservative hip hop artists, fans or listeners out there. But no, its plainly obvious that he’s just gotta be putting’ down the black man.
For the supporters of the supposedly “post-racial” candidate, the ‘racism’ drumbeat never misses a beat, does it?
Even when they have to make it up, as in this case.
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,”
– Joe Biden
Hmmm… no racism there. At least none that the patented Willis ‘Racist-Detector’* can spot.
Splinter in our eye, plank in yours, and all that.
* hint: it bother to look at a person’s race, comments or intent, it just checks whether there is a ‘D’ or an ‘R’ after their name
doesn’t bother
Actually, Oliver and everyone else on Earth criticised him for it, and rightly. That Obama picked him as his running mate despite that stupid statement, and after the toughest vetting process in recent memory, suggests that a) Obama isn’t a petty manchild like the present incumbent, b) Biden’s a very good candidate, and c) your mother.
Oh, good grief. That is just straight out of your ass. You don’t know how tough it was in comparison to any other process.
Reportedly, the toughest vetting process in recent memory.
Sick of this. Sick of these issues when people slip. We all slip we are have biases. We are better than the worst thing that we have done.
I want to look at people’s record, where they put the money and support, their policies and conduct.
I can’t run for dog catcher. I know I have made many inappropriate comments and sexist and racist jokes. And another reason I can’t run for dog catcher is that I am honest and my answer to strict scrutiny of me is “So what, don’t you have a life to live? Go live it.”
These posts are beginning to be petty, petty, petty.
Reportedly, the toughest vetting process in recent memory.
From the link at Oliver’s recent post on the “fully vetted Biden”:
Well Republicans say that Palin was vetted through a rigorous process too, so I guess we just have to take their word for it as well.
Let’s look closer at the actual Biden vetting process:
Sounds excruciating. Now let’s look at the Palin vetting process:
Yeah, sounds like they just pencil-whipped the whole thing. Going through the motions. Unlike the Biden process, where at the end of it he got an actual phone call from Obama himself. Palin got cheated out of that part.
and c) your mother.
Oh I’m sorry, Nimrod, did I hurt your feelings?
That Obama picked him as his running mate despite that stupid statement, and after the toughest vetting process in recent memory, suggests that a) Obama isn’t a petty manchild like the present incumbent, b) Biden’s a very good candidate, and c) your mother.
…or d) it’s really only racism when a person has an ‘R’ after their name. Otherwise, it’s merely a “stupid” statement.
These posts are beginning to be petty, petty, petty.
I suggest you direct your disgust to the proprietor. He’s the one pushing these bogus talking points.
I’m with Dave’s first point, partially. That could have been a racial comment, or it could have been referring to the sharp contrast between conservative ideology and that espoused by hip-hop artists. (Public Enemy and Mos Def come to mind.)
No way to tell either way.
Well, of course it was a racist statement, duh, but I doubt he is a natually racist person, because Barack Obama picked him as running-mate. QED.
Obviously I’m not a party insider for either party, but the fact that McCain picked Sarah Palin for VP more or less demonstrates that he took it far less seriously than Obama did.
but I doubt he is a natually racist person, because Barack Obama picked him as running-mate. QED.
So regardless of what Biden actually says, he can’t be a racist person because Obama picked him. With the obvious inference that Obama wouldn’t pick a racist as running mate. That’s some interesting circular logic there. The same logic Obama is using to say that running for president gives him all the experience he needs to actually be president.
the fact that McCain picked Sarah Palin for VP more or less demonstrates that he took it far less seriously than Obama did.
Based on what criteria? Palin is actually a better fit for McCain than Biden is for Obama. Palin ran for governor on a somewhat “maverick/outsider” platform herself and has a history of opposing those in her own party, just like McCain (despite Oliver’s attempts to falsely brand her as Ted Steven’s right hand woman and fellow conspirator).
On the other hand, Obama’s #1 message is that he represents change. “Change We Can Believe In” to be exact. He is claiming to be a post-racial, new kind of candidate. A fresh face. Not the same old politics. So who does he pick for his running mate? A 36 year professional politician. A genuine Washington insider (and in fact, someone who’s been in politics longer than Old Man McCain). Why? Because Biden is an attempt to add some gravitas and foreign policy experience to the platform that Obama is sorely lacking. So the new, young game-changing guy is paired up with the old, experienced politician and insider. And people want Obama to win so badly they are ignoring this obvious disconnect in the campaign. I have to hand it to Obama, he does inspire his followers like no one we’ve seen in a very long time.
That could have been a racial comment, or it could have been referring to the sharp contrast between conservative ideology and that espoused by hip-hop artists. (Public Enemy and Mos Def come to mind.)
No way to tell either way.
Thank you, Parthenon, for continuing to be an island of reason in a rough sea of hyper-partisanship.
What part of that doesn’t make sense to you?
Never mind, your brain is probably working nineteen to the dozen on convincing itself that Sarah Palin is remotely presidential.
Actually, Oliver and everyone else on Earth criticised him for it, and rightly.
Yes, Biden was awful… until he was selected by Obama to be his running mate.
Oliver’s first post on Biden (”Joe?”) following the selection:
Oh, well, water under the bridge and all that. Biden’s as right as rain, he is.
There there, no-one likes a bad loser.
What part of that doesn’t make sense to you?
Your proof that Biden is not a “naturally racist person” is based on the fact that “Barack Obama picked him as running-mate”.
It goes like this: Biden can’t be racist because Obama picked him and we know that Obama wouldn’t pick him if he was racist. So because Obama did in fact pick him that proves he’s not racist. And on it goes, around and around, faster and faster until it’s spinning so rapidly it creates an artificial singularity right there in the server hosting Oliver’s blog.
Never mind, your brain is probably working nineteen to the dozen on convincing itself that Sarah Palin is remotely presidential.
Big hug for you too, Nimrod.
There there, no-one likes a bad loser.
That’s not true, Nimrod. I’m sure that many people like you. Somewhere.
Yeah, but, what part of that statement doesn’t make sense to you?
The fact that your sole proof that Biden isn’t racist is simply that “Obama picked him”. How does this constitute proof? It’s your opinion, but hardly counts as proof of anything other than your belief that Obama would never pick a racist for a running mate. Can you prove that Obama wouldn’t hold his nose and pick a racist person (based on their racist statements) for the sake of political expediency?
It would be just as ridiculous for me to say that the “proof” that Palin is a true maverick/outsider is solely because McCain picked her. McCain wouldn’t have picked her if she wasn’t a maverick, and since he did pick her that proves she is a maverick. You see the missing element in there? Where is the proof that McCain picked her because she’s a maverick and not just out of political expediency?
I don’t know how much clearer I can make it.
I can’t prove monkeys won’t shoot out of my arse and start singing “Jeepers Creepers” any second now. But it ain’t likely.
But sure, I guess Obama could have picked someone like George fricking Allen for VP, I mean he’d only be running alongside someone who genuninely hates him. No, can’t see any reason at all why merely being a racist would be enough to put him off. Obama/Rockwell 08!
Reportedly, the toughest vetting process in recent memory.
Huh? It was a process that went like this:
“Holy shit! I don’t know a goddamned thing about national security and foreign policy! Get me Ted Ke…er…no. Get me Hilla….uh…no. Get me John McCai…..uh….no. Get me Biden. Yeah. Joe Biden. If I have to.”
Only in your head. That’s not the same as reality. It’s like the “big/far away” thing.