Peggy Noonan, Mike Murphy Discuss The Palin Pick As “Bull****”



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What they really say behind closed doors. Oh, those cons.

The great thing is in Peggy Noonan’s column today, Noonan talks about the Palin pick as a “real and present danger to the American left”. So you know, for all those years of us talking about how they just serve up a load of bull, as I said yesterday… there you go. (via)

More, transcript from Kos:

Noonan: [Can't hear since Todd (who is still on air) is talking over her]

Murphy: Um, you know, because, I come out of the blue swing state governor world. Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, I mean, and these guys, this is all how you win a Texas race, just run it up, and it’s not gonna work.

Noonan: It’s Over.

Murphy: Still, McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech and do himself some good.

Todd: [can't really tell what he says, but he mentions something about "insulting to Kay Baily Hutchinson]

Noonan: I saw Kay this morning…

Todd: She’s never looked comfortable up there..

Murphy: They’re all bummed out.

Todd: I mean, is she really the most qualified woman they can obtain?

Noonan: The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives…[couldn't hear the end of it]

Todd: Yeah, but what’s a narrative?

Murphy: I totally agree.

Noonan: Every time Republicans do that, because that’s not where they live and it’s not what they’re good at, they blow it.

Murphy: You know what’s the worst thing about it, the greatest of McCain is no cynicism, and..

Murphy and Todd together: This is cynical.

Todd: And as you called it, gimmicky.

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27 Responses to “Peggy Noonan, Mike Murphy Discuss The Palin Pick As “Bull****””

  1. DAWG says:

    This what you get when reality is the norm. Ms. Palin is, I’m sure, a wonderful mother and wife. Mr., I’m a kept man, Cindy McCain has done our country a disservice with his shoot from the hip attitude that I was a POW so whatever I do or say is OK attitude.

    SHAME on YOU MR. CINDY MCCAIN

  2. Quaker in a Basement says:

    I wouldn’t be too embarrassed about that.

    ‘Cuz I didn’t do it!

  3. unllaw says:

    OLIVER CONTINUES TO PROVIDE NEWS WE SHOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT!!!!

  4. Eric Sipple says:

    …is this getting play anywhere? Please, someone run this on an actual, national television station. Please.

    Eric

  5. unllaw says:

    OLIVER CONTINUES TO PROVIDE NEWS WE SHOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT!!!! And people wondered why Keith Olbermann wated Murphy off the air??? Now we know his true feelings! Keep it up Republicans….it’s turning into a civil war.

  6. unllaw says:

    And people wondered why Keith Olbermann wated Murphy off the air??? Now we know his true feelings! Keep it up Republicans….it’s turning into a civil war.

  7. mambochicken23 says:

    Awesome.

  8. Leota2 says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. [...] With a generous hat-tip to Oliver Willis it seems Peggy Noonan’s opinion of Sarah Palin has changed drastically . . . in a couple [...]

  10. juhar says:

    Woooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Can’t imagine how Peggy Noonan reacted to this.

  11. Duros Hussein 62 says:

    …is this getting play anywhere? Please, someone run this on an actual, national television station. Please.

    Front page at HuffPo. So it’ll probably be on Countdown.

  12. Kevin says:

    ya gotta check out the revised article, she’s put up a new “top” trying to explain away her remarks caught on mic… pretty sad, but funny

  13. unllaw says:

    Noonan blames the media for the “misinterpretation” of her saying “it’s over”???????? HELLO?!? YOU SAID IT. The words came out of your mouth…PERIOD! But I suppose that is sexist too :)

  14. jr says:

    Peggy needs to quit gravytraining off Reagan and hang up the spikes

  15. JK says:

    Advance text from Palin’s speech, apparently, in response to her being Mayor of a town smaller than most college campuses:

    “Since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves,” Palin said. “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a `community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities.”

    Let the games begin. The above is nasty stuff….especially when we consider that Obama was one of the first ones to ask that people put a stop to the “knocked up 17 year old” gossip. You’d think Palin would have the decency to not take it to the gutter.

    This McCain leaning liberal is now growing increasingly tired of Sarah Palin and the soap opera, the DUI hubby, the knocked up daughter.

    The gun toting beauty queen is grating on my nerves, 2 days after I liked her. Oh well….

    JK

  16. Jaim says:

    Shorter JK: I’m a former Democrat my opinion is really really important!

  17. Jay Tea says:

    JK says THAT is “nasty stuff?” Please. That’s nothing.

    I hope Palin later goes on to talk about Obama’s work as a community organizer when he worked closely with ACORN, who — it seems — has more of its people arrested and charged with forging voter registration records every other week or so.

    Or discussing what Obama was putting up his nose when he was about the same age as her pregnant daughter is now. THAT, sir, would be nasty.

    She won’t do that last one, though. And she shouldn’t.

    But back to the subject… this ought to be a major blow, if not a fatal one, to Noonan’s career as a columnist. Only columnists of the proper ideological bent — Krugman, Barnicle, Dowd, et al — can get away with this kind of “bullshit.”

    Say good-night, Peggy.

    J.

  18. JK says:

    Speaking of opinions not being important..I just checked out your “blog” and see a half dozen entries, and an equal amount of host generated “no comments.”

    Pretty much explains your deal.

    In my “old age,” I don’t have a high tolerance for political drama. I see far too much drama developing in Sarah Palin’s selection as VP running mate. I didn’t know anything about her one week ago…now I know more, and I think McCain could have picked a woman or man less apparently, and surprisingly polarizing, and far more qualified. Certianly far less mentally fatiguing on the American psyche.

    We don’t need a “high-maintenance VP,” who’s a heart-beat away from being leader of the free world.

    JK

  19. Jk says:

    I’ve never understood how PROFESSIONALS who are in a TV, radio, recording studio, or in earshot of a possible microphone, simply can’t accept the notion that the “mike” is always live. How hard could that be?

    I guess Noonan won’t be called on to write any of McCain’s speeches?

    I read the advance text for Palin’s speech….it goes much harder at Obama than Biden did on McCain. And to the GOP’s credit, that’s what a VP candidate is supposed to do.

    But something in my brain tells me that I simply don’t want to hear this kind of crap from a person who was presiding over a town meeting of 25 people, 3 years ago….when the top story was probably something like a “troublesome Grizzly on Elm street.”

    JK

  20. Jay Tea says:

    JK, if you thought Noonan’s bit was embarrassing, how about Jesse Jackson saying he was going to cut Obama’s nuts off?

    You treat every microphone just like you treat every gun — like it’s ready to do its job at any instant.

    Noonan and Jackson shoulda known better.

    J.

  21. datadave says:

    oh, boy, can’t wait to hear the cutie from Alaska eviscerate Obama.

    Not!! She’s an uncouth clown girl with a fetish for shotguns at weddings.

    She’d be much better ‘forgiving’ her critics and then moving on to substantial matters…

    heh? Giuliani is attacking Obama first….perhaps taking the wind out of her sails.

    Giuliani? Mafia dad, who thought the Presidency would be given to him…for 9/11?

    I get the feeling ‘middle America’ is tuning off already.

  22. Tyro says:

    Jay Tea, honestly, I wish pundits like Noonan would say what they really think — that’s what they’re paid for: their thoughts — rather than playing the “persona” of a pro-Republican. If a Republican pundit thinks that the Palin pick is “bullshit,” and they’re invited on a show, they should say, “the Palin pick is bullshit,” rather than lying to the audience about their beliefs.

  23. KXB says:

    “Or discussing what Obama was putting up his nose when he was about the same age as her pregnant daughter is now. THAT, sir, would be nasty.”

    Unlike McCain, who was too busy drinking away his days at the Naval Academy, and graduating 4 spots above dead last? Which more deserving candidate did he bump out of the Academy cause he went crying to his daddy to let the big bad admissions board let him in?

  24. datadave says:

    Whoa. Just what I expected. Very Presentable! Ms. Palin. But Arrogant to the Extreme.

    Giulani’s speech was actually better. And she had substantial inaccuracies in hers. She took the money for the ‘bridge to No where’ for her state and never returned it…and totally lied about Obama’s tax policies.

    Sort of Dramatic…Holy Shit. Like Sending her son off to war …for a Political Point…on 9/11. How symbolic and gimmickry is that???

  25. Quaker in a Basement says:

    C’mon Mr. Tea. You gotta think these things through.

    Only columnists of the proper ideological bent — Krugman, Barnicle, Dowd, et al — can get away with this kind of “bullshit.”

    Krugman says bad things about Republicans. (Barnicle? Dowd? Not so much, but I see where you’re trying to go with this.) Now Noonan says something bad about a Republican.

    Your schtick should be: “Well, now maybe she’ll be Olbermann’s new best friend! She’ll get her own column on HuffPo!

    If you’re going to play the “media is liberal” card, at least do it right.

  26. JK says:

    Very angry speech, by Palin. It started out kind of “folksy,” and then simply transitioned into arrogance, condecension and finally anger.

    Very “Ross Perot-like.” Remember, people were enamored with Ross’s “folksy” rants at first, and then grew tired of them.

    What a damn nightmare.

    Obama…Biden…Palin…

    Can we just elect McCain and call this off?

    Oh well…there’s always Football.

    Tom Brady will carry me through…Brady to Moss!

    JK

  27. Jaim says:

    Thanks for driving some traffic to my blog JK!

    That said, one of the great things about living abroad is that I can pick and choose my intake of American media. Seeing Obama accept the nomination via youtube was inspirational. The old fart and the shrewish librarian? Yeah, don’t need to actually watch them, happy to get the condensed version elsewhere. Let me guess — a major part of the speech went like this? “9/11 9/11 9/11 ZOMG!!!”

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