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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American Government&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: The Contiguous States Perspective &#171; The Poor Man Institute</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112369</link>
		<dc:creator>The Contiguous States Perspective &#171; The Poor Man Institute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#160;  Well, it turns out that the Palin family has a long political association with America-hating fringe radicals.  Why am I not surprised?  And does anyone still wonder why so many real Americans hate [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &nbsp;  Well, it turns out that the Palin family has a long political association with America-hating fringe radicals.  Why am I not surprised?  And does anyone still wonder why so many real Americans hate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112291</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have no problems believing the woman quoted said what she said. &lt;/em&gt;

There you go. We agree on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I have no problems believing the woman quoted said what she said. </em></p>
<p>There you go. We agree on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112289</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, Quaker, THAT part of the story is valid to you, but the actual DOCUMENTS that show Palin’s actual party registration for over 20 years doesn’t count?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, don&#039;t ask me, man. It&#039;s your cite. One of the leaders of the party says Ms. Palin used to hang with them. I&#039;m glad you let us know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, Quaker, THAT part of the story is valid to you, but the actual DOCUMENTS that show Palin’s actual party registration for over 20 years doesn’t count?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, don&#8217;t ask me, man. It&#8217;s your cite. One of the leaders of the party says Ms. Palin used to hang with them. I&#8217;m glad you let us know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Quaker, THAT part of the story is valid to you, but the actual DOCUMENTS that show Palin&#039;s actual party registration for over 20 years doesn&#039;t count?

Interesting standard there... &quot;if it supports me, it&#039;s true; if it shows me wrong, it&#039;s bogus.&quot;

I have no problems believing the woman quoted said what she said. What I would like to see is the slightest evidence to back it up -- the evidence pointing to it being bullshit is pretty damned solid. 

Lying to a reporter is no big deal. Forging voter registration documents is a felony. 

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Quaker, THAT part of the story is valid to you, but the actual DOCUMENTS that show Palin&#8217;s actual party registration for over 20 years doesn&#8217;t count?</p>
<p>Interesting standard there&#8230; &#8220;if it supports me, it&#8217;s true; if it shows me wrong, it&#8217;s bogus.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no problems believing the woman quoted said what she said. What I would like to see is the slightest evidence to back it up &#8212; the evidence pointing to it being bullshit is pretty damned solid. </p>
<p>Lying to a reporter is no big deal. Forging voter registration documents is a felony. </p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112233</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So, Quaker, you got one person who is willing to go on TV and say the governor was a member of their fringe group, &lt;/em&gt;

No, YOU do. It was there in that nice story you linked for us. Thanks, Mr. Tea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So, Quaker, you got one person who is willing to go on TV and say the governor was a member of their fringe group, </em></p>
<p>No, YOU do. It was there in that nice story you linked for us. Thanks, Mr. Tea!</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112230</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be more childish. I dare you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be more childish. I dare you.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112224</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nimrod,

I believe the Akaka quote speaks for itself.

Obama is a Hawaiian secessionist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nimrod,</p>
<p>I believe the Akaka quote speaks for itself.</p>
<p>Obama is a Hawaiian secessionist.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112220</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Native Hawaiian sovereignty activists who oppose the bill believe that it blocks their attempts to establish their independence from the federal government and disregards 1993 Public Law (103-150), in which Congress apologized &quot;for the overthrow and the deprivation of the rights of Native Hawaiians to self-determination.&quot; Washington-based constitutional scholar Bruce Fein has outlined a number of counter-arguments disputing the accuracy of the assertions made in the Apology Resolution, stating &quot;The apology wrongly insinuates that the overthrown 1893 government was for Native Hawaiians alone&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Native Hawaiian sovereignty activists who oppose the bill believe that it blocks their attempts to establish their independence from the federal government and disregards 1993 Public Law (103-150), in which Congress apologized &#8220;for the overthrow and the deprivation of the rights of Native Hawaiians to self-determination.&#8221; Washington-based constitutional scholar Bruce Fein has outlined a number of counter-arguments disputing the accuracy of the assertions made in the Apology Resolution, stating &#8220;The apology wrongly insinuates that the overthrown 1893 government was for Native Hawaiians alone&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112215</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nimrod,

The Office of Hawaiian Affairs Web site &quot;Hawaiian Governance FAQ&quot; regarding the Akaka bill has the following posted on the site:

&quot;What form of government will be established? The ultimate form of government -- be it total independence, nation-within-a-nation or free association -- must be decided upon and ratified by the Native Hawaiian people.

&quot;What&#039;s the difference between Independence, nation-within-a-nation, and free association? Independence: The model would mean complete legal and territorial separation from the United States and the re-establishment of the Hawaiian nation-state.&quot;

Furthermore, U.S. Senator Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii, himself acknowledged his bill could lead to total independence. When asked during a National Public Radio interview whether the bill &quot;could eventually go further, perhaps even leading to outright independence.&quot; he replied, &quot;That could be. That could be. As far as what&#039;s going to happen at the other end, I&#039;m leaving it up to my grandchildren and great-grandchildren.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nimrod,</p>
<p>The Office of Hawaiian Affairs Web site &#8220;Hawaiian Governance FAQ&#8221; regarding the Akaka bill has the following posted on the site:</p>
<p>&#8220;What form of government will be established? The ultimate form of government &#8212; be it total independence, nation-within-a-nation or free association &#8212; must be decided upon and ratified by the Native Hawaiian people.</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s the difference between Independence, nation-within-a-nation, and free association? Independence: The model would mean complete legal and territorial separation from the United States and the re-establishment of the Hawaiian nation-state.&#8221;</p>
<p>Furthermore, U.S. Senator Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii, himself acknowledged his bill could lead to total independence. When asked during a National Public Radio interview whether the bill &#8220;could eventually go further, perhaps even leading to outright independence.&#8221; he replied, &#8220;That could be. That could be. As far as what&#8217;s going to happen at the other end, I&#8217;m leaving it up to my grandchildren and great-grandchildren.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112204</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be recognised as people the way that the Native Americans and Inuit Tribes are (now). Clearly the same thing as publicly supporting a party that basically wants to secede from the Union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be recognised as people the way that the Native Americans and Inuit Tribes are (now). Clearly the same thing as publicly supporting a party that basically wants to secede from the Union.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112196</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barracky supports the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act (Akaka Bill).

What do you think the native Hwaiians ultimate goals are?

Obama...Hawaiian secessionist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barracky supports the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act (Akaka Bill).</p>
<p>What do you think the native Hwaiians ultimate goals are?</p>
<p>Obama&#8230;Hawaiian secessionist!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112189</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Quaker, you got one person who is willing to go on TV and say the governor was a member of their fringe group, versus legal documents that say she wasn&#039;t. Odd how Ms. Clark didn&#039;t have any documentation of her own (say, a membership check, mailing list sign-up, registration slip, or ANYTHING) to back it up...

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Quaker, you got one person who is willing to go on TV and say the governor was a member of their fringe group, versus legal documents that say she wasn&#8217;t. Odd how Ms. Clark didn&#8217;t have any documentation of her own (say, a membership check, mailing list sign-up, registration slip, or ANYTHING) to back it up&#8230;</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112187</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome link, Mr. Tea:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Lynnette Clark, an AIP official, went on record with ABC at least to make this allegation,&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome link, Mr. Tea:</p>
<blockquote><p>Lynnette Clark, an AIP official, went on record with ABC at least to make this allegation,</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112180</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemme guess, Oliver: you ran into Dan Rather at the DNC last week, and he promised to fax you Sarah Palin&#039;s REAL voter registration records from a Kinko&#039;s in Texas, right?

Oliver, if you have proof that those records Palin released are fake, notify the authorities. Forging voter records is a serious crime -- just look at Obama&#039;s old buddies in ACORN, who keep having people go to jail for faking voter registrations. 

Or are you content to just call them fakes, with nothing to back that up?

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemme guess, Oliver: you ran into Dan Rather at the DNC last week, and he promised to fax you Sarah Palin&#8217;s REAL voter registration records from a Kinko&#8217;s in Texas, right?</p>
<p>Oliver, if you have proof that those records Palin released are fake, notify the authorities. Forging voter records is a serious crime &#8212; just look at Obama&#8217;s old buddies in ACORN, who keep having people go to jail for faking voter registrations. </p>
<p>Or are you content to just call them fakes, with nothing to back that up?</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: JWG</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112173</link>
		<dc:creator>JWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, except for the actual evidence I posted about how many of their members oppose secession and use the group to support state&#039;s rights. I guess if you ignore that important and documented part of the group, then yeah, you&#039;re right, I&#039;m ignoring &quot;tangible&quot; (i.e. she spoke to them once at a convention) evidence to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, except for the actual evidence I posted about how many of their members oppose secession and use the group to support state&#8217;s rights. I guess if you ignore that important and documented part of the group, then yeah, you&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m ignoring &#8220;tangible&#8221; (i.e. she spoke to them once at a convention) evidence to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112172</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said she was a secessionist, she could just be a commonwealthist. But she&#039;s certainly an AIP supporter, and generally speaking, to be an AIP supporter and want the state to remain in the USA is like being a socialist and joining the GOP.

You&#039;re the one denying any connection to the AIP and any of its positions, despite tangible evidence to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said she was a secessionist, she could just be a commonwealthist. But she&#8217;s certainly an AIP supporter, and generally speaking, to be an AIP supporter and want the state to remain in the USA is like being a socialist and joining the GOP.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one denying any connection to the AIP and any of its positions, despite tangible evidence to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: JWG</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112169</link>
		<dc:creator>JWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;THAT clears it up&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Because providing actual documentation means nothing when you have one guy claiming something happened 14 years ago! Now THAT&#039;S proof!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>THAT clears it up</p></blockquote>
<p>Because providing actual documentation means nothing when you have one guy claiming something happened 14 years ago! Now THAT&#8217;S proof!</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112166</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well then the Republicans released something. THAT clears it up. I mean, her pandering to and attending the convention of secessionists must also be a figment of imagination as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well then the Republicans released something. THAT clears it up. I mean, her pandering to and attending the convention of secessionists must also be a figment of imagination as well!</p>
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		<title>By: JWG</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112164</link>
		<dc:creator>JWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you just posted an actual quote or a piece of evidence to show Palin&#039;s interest in secession, then you could just point and laugh at me.

In the meantime, you&#039;re just going to stick out your bottom lip and pout that no one will believe you after you crossed your heart and pledged needles in your eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you just posted an actual quote or a piece of evidence to show Palin&#8217;s interest in secession, then you could just point and laugh at me.</p>
<p>In the meantime, you&#8217;re just going to stick out your bottom lip and pout that no one will believe you after you crossed your heart and pledged needles in your eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/the-fires-of-hell-are-glaciers-compared-to-my-hate-for-the-american-government/#comment-112161</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I posted what I was thinking you&#039;d just say &quot;AH-HA, you are WRONG WRONG WRONG cos my head is not &lt;i&gt;literally&lt;/i&gt; stored in that particular area, nor is it capable of such. YOU LOSE  10000 XP&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I posted what I was thinking you&#8217;d just say &#8220;AH-HA, you are WRONG WRONG WRONG cos my head is not <i>literally</i> stored in that particular area, nor is it capable of such. YOU LOSE  10000 XP&#8221;</p>
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