In that case, also,allowing abortion for victims only but not for other people with unwanted pregnancies is then a punishment of the women who got pregnant by not using birth control or who had sex and the birth control failed.

Another point- I know women who have had abortions- and they live with the scar and doubt forever. It is not an easy decision, and many people regret it.
It would not likely help the victim of incest or rape to have another possibly traumatic event. Sure, there must be some women who are not affected from abortion, but I would bet very few.

That should be preached- not the punishing rhetoric that many “pro- lifers” like to give.

Stop the judgement, start the support, give education, pass out condoms in schools, teach boys to be respectful of girls and don’t just put the yes or no decisions on the girls.

People should stop the whole Madonna/Whore complex.Women are neither!

Provide help for mothers without partners. Take away the shame. Provide affordable daycare. Creat an atmosphere of understanding so that children can go to their parents or teachers when they have questions about sex.

Teach women self-value- and men patience!

The taboo of sex in the US enflames the mistakes made by many young, because they go in the heat of the moment without birth control!

but when jr said
“These rapture bunnies all believe in predestination. Palin thinks rape victims were destined to get raped and having an abortion is going against God’s will”

If God feels that way, then 1. He’s an asshole for making a women suffer like that. IF God feels that a woman should be a mother, why not do the whole Virgin Mary thing? OH that’s right MARY WAS RAPE TOO.

my question to palin:
my 14 year old daughter was walking home from school, she got lifted into a van. she was beaten, molested, and forcefully raped. as a father you give me no options, i have to watch my daughter bear term and give birth. the rapist was aids infected, a psychotic, the genes would pass down. my daughter has to bear the experience, give it up for adoption and know through the rest of her life that she was forcefully entered by no control of her own, and yet you vice president deem that to be acceptable by law? simply due to your god driven beliefs of everything happens for a reason?

to her point of view and others point of view should not mandate a law due to ones beliefs. the decisions of one’s body lie within that person. and since life begins in the womb of a woman, involuntary or not, it’s not governments choice to say so.

Why not give convicted felons a sporting chance? Give ‘em a thousand yard running start and head after ‘em with the guns and airplanes. Nothing is better than man-hunting. Go get ‘em, Sarah and Todd.

Now, John and Jay might think I’ve joined their party…oh, well I grew up with John Birchers and know how they think.

Really, seems like McCain’s got himself a new girlfriend. Kind of like when he dumped Carol, his first wife.

Does Palin support jailing women who have had abortions? If she only favors punishing the people who perform the abortions, but not the women who undergo the procedure itself, doesn’t that make her half-pro-choice (or half-committed to “the sanctity of life”)?

Doesn’t Palin support the death penalty?

Interesting how the number $20M keeps getting thrown around, with no mention of a) what the city did with the money, and b) how the debt service compares to the rest of the budget. Without this information, a simple dollar amount is absolutely meaningless.

Thanks.

I really shouldn’t even bother trying to debate with him, but it’s either this or working. And working is just not an option.

And this has lead you to the conclusion that the liberal blogosphere is dominated by name calling and “dehumanizing” tactics? You think one comment in a thread of one hundred should be pulled out, isolated and held up as evidence of “all that is wrong liberals and liberalism”?

You make sweeping generalizations about a very larger community then want to scold me about making arguments on their merits? A rant that reaches its full crescendo in two dazzlingly obtuse references to Monty Python and Harry Potter? Please.

You know if you can make an argument against Palin based on the issues, go ahead and make it. Why, instead, assume the utterly pointless, self-righteous role of “comment police?”

Concern troll, heal thyself.

I spend time on liberal blogs, I am a liberal.

But go ahead, anyone that disagrees with you is scum, or a troll, or a concern troll. See how far that gets you. Basically on the net, it really means you’ve run out of argument, and can only name call, and call on group pressure to silence someone. It means you’re an Internet Tough Guy as most likely a real life pussy.

Better idea: argue your arguments on the merits. It’s the lesson of Monty Python after all.

Or consider Dumbledore’s awarding of 10 points to Neville Longbottom. In your book that would be, -10 points to Neville Longbottom, concern troll.

In the meantime, consider why it is that people you know don’t want to call themselves liberals or democrats. And then blame them for it.

I’ll take her 80% approval rating as Governor over Pelosi’s “Do Nothing” Congress and their 9% approval rating any day.

Good thing Pelosi’s not Obama’s VP, now isn’t it?

John, why do you hate America so much?