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This is one of those situations where you have no one to cheer for but it’s still amusing: 9/11 conspiracy loons hound and bug Michelle Malkin and her HotAir underlings while they try to take pictures of protesters. Warning: Site contains wackjobbery of the highest order.
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This is one of those situations where you have no one to cheer.
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This is one of those situations you have to cheer.
Wow, that was… wow. I felt physical pain in my soul…
As this is the sort of behavior she advocates each time she publishes the home addresses and personal contact info of people involved in movements she opposes, and she doesn’t express any sort of remose when she does it, I have to assume she finds this to be perfectly acceptable.
Kharma is a wheel.
OB08!
Scott, would you be referring to the time she re-published the anti-war flyer, that featured the organizers saying “please contact us” and listing their phone number? Yeah, that was REALLY slimy of her.
J.
Yes it was. Jay Tea is right again — she is a seriously nasty piece of work.
That gave me a headache.
She could have made them go away if she did the cheeleader routine.
Mmmmmm….Schadenfreude ..tastes like chicken.
Cheerleader
Fixed.
Jay Tea, Aug 26th, 2008 at 5:20 am
Scott, would you be referring to the time she re-published the anti-war flyer, that featured the organizers saying “please contact us” and listing their phone number? Yeah, that was REALLY slimy of her.
Jay – perhaps you’re forgetting that those same organizers apologized and asked Michelle to retract that information, and Michelle posted their personal information again? Because, yeah, that WAS really slimy of her.
When a loon meets a loon comin’ through the rye…
Hey Oliver… love the big John McCain banner ad that comes up when I visit your website.
Gives me something to click on. Besides, I love wasting his money…!
Yes Jay, that is what I was refering to. She published the information, and encouraged her readership to confront the people responsible for something she saw as wrong. This is exactly what activism journalism is all about. She spends her time writing what she writes in an effort to bring about change by encouraging people to take action. She just experienced the flip side of that. This guy encouraged his audience to confront the person responsible for what he saw as a wrong. he encouraged people to take action.
I see them both as sides to the same coin.
Kharma – righting imbalances since 1000 B.C.
Two things stuck out at me:
1) The psycho who started screaming “KILL MICHELLE MALKIN!” That was one asshole who needed to get arrested… or tasered… or peppersprayed.
2) Alex Jones screaming about “FEMA camps in Iraq!” Could this be the “heckuva job” Brownie was doing back during Katrina?
J.
Jay Tea
Yes, that is what I was refering too. She posted that information and encouraged her readership to take action. This is what blogging is all about – I assume (I could be wrong) you wish for your readers to take action in suport of your views. This Alex Jones guy encouraged his supporters to take action. It didn’t seem to phase her security entourage much (no melee and no-one rushed her out of the threat zone) so he must not have been percieved to be anythign more than a windbag. Of course, that can be said of many on the fringes of the left and right…
Kharma – balancing things since 1000 B.C.
Jay, it is my understanding that Malkin continued to publish the information you mentioned on the flyer even AFTER the organizers asked her not to do so anymore (because they were getting threats due to their admittedly awful behavior toward military recruiters at UCSC).
“The psycho who started screaming ‘KILL MICHELLE MALKIN!’ That was the asswhole who needed to get arrested…or tasered…or peppersprayed”.
Did you feel the same way about the F(R)NC’S Bill O’Reilly when he said on the radio about George Soros “We ought to hang this guy”?
And speakign of blogging, the fact that my post showed up twice (and re-written at that) shows why I don’t blog. I fear technology, it is what brought (will bring?) us the T-1000…
Scott, I’ve watched that video a fwe times, and the “KILL MICHELLE MALKIN” asshole was NOT Alex Jones. Indeed, I’ve seen some speculation that he wasn’t one of Jones’ minions, but an “agent provocateur” from the Recreate68 dipshits or some other group. (Note that no one seemed to want to join him.) So Jones is off the hook for THAT one.
rotter, there’s a huge difference from O’Reilly tossing off a remark on his TV show and a guy trying to literally incite a mob to commit murder. The crowd surrounding Malkin was very large and very unhappy with her and her presence, Jones was already whipping up passions against her, and her “security contingent” was vastly outnumbered. I was very pleasantly surprised that nothing came of it (apart from Jones shoving one guy who apparently irritated him.)
Jones came across as a raving asshole — I guess that counts as “truth in advertising.”
Oh, and as far as those flyers that Malkin left up on her site… I’m a big believer in “the moving hand hath writ,” and whatnot. Perhaps Malkin should have taken them down, but she had no legal responsibility for simply the the “student activists” in question exactly what they asked for — publicity and attention and feedback.
Be careful what you wish for, indeed.
A personal example, of a very lesser degree: almost every time I get into a major tussle over here, I end up with some serious troll problems over at Wizbang — and I suspect some of the folks here have “followed me home” and chosen to hassle me there. Mostly it’s no big problem, but a few times they’ve simply resorted to profane personal attacks that have no relevance to the topics at hand, and simply insult me. Naturally, I remove them — I’m interested in discussion and debate, and not simply standing there and being insulted — and have, on occasion, simply banned the idiots.
Once or twice, I’ve thought of asking Oliver for a “professional courtesy” favor and giving him the IPs of some of the most offensive idiots to see if he’ll confirm that they are, indeed, commenters here as well. I haven’t gotten around to it, and I’m certainly not going to while he’s wrapped up at the DNC.
But I’m not gonna stop listing Wizbang under my web site here, despite the annoyances it sometimes causes. I knew it would draw some folks, including some I’d rather it not, but I can live with it.
But let’s recap the facts:
The “student activists” organized a movement to harass and drive military recruiters off the college campus. They didn’t want to argue with the military, they wanted to silence them. They didn’t want to give their fellow students the right to decide on their own whether they wanted to join the military. As part of that move, they sent out a press release, including their names, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses. Malkin simply cut and pasted that contact info, along with an account of their activities.
THAT was the heinous offense you denounce her for — re-publishing a portion of a press release the “student activists” themselves sent out.
Oh, the humanity.
J.
Jay tea
The ‘KILL MICHELLE MALKIN!’ guy (can we find something easier to type) was in the wrong. No argument from me on that point.
I never denounced Malkin.
He (KMM! guy) would have been OK had it been Coulter, as she has called for U.S. Supreme Court Justices to be publicly hung. She called for murder, so calling for it in return would be fair, no? It’s the level of debate as she defined it.
I don’t read much of what Malkin writes, but I do not ever recall her calling for those she opposes to be murdered. She has called for them to be contacted and pointedly debated (some would call this harrassment) however. She was harassed in this case. it’s the level of debate as she defined it.
I stand by Kharma.
Coulter is an entire different creature from Malkin. Coulter is a bomb-thrower, and she is best seen as purely for entertainment value. For example, I once thought it would be tremendously fun to see her nominated for the Supreme Court just to see her have to face Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Joe Biden, Dianne Feinstein, and Chuck Schumer and address them — while under oath to “tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.”
With that absolute demand that she not conceal her loathing and contempt for such people, combined with her acid tongue and brutal, lightning wit, AND plenty of time to prepare, C-SPAN could put those hearings on pay-per-view and pay off the entire national debt.
Come on, admit it — wouldn’t you pay good money to see Coulter face the Senate Judiciary Committee and their hired guns of questioners? It’d be a FANTASTIC spectacle!
Of course, I wouldn’t want Coulter anywhere near the Supreme Court. But those hearings…
J.
Coulter and Malkin are the same thing in different dresses. Provocateurs propped up by the media as if they had something serious to say. The one time Malkin attempted anything scholarly she had the crap beaten out of her factually. Her book after that was “Unhinged” about how the left is craaaaaazy. That’s her wheelhouse and it’s Coulter’s too. I may often deride the left as being far too wonky, but I’d much rather that than the way the right boosts circus clowns like Malkin, Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity, Goldberg, etc. as if they had anything more to say than “liberals suck”.
The Democrats have their own versions of Malkin and Coulter. The difference is, they often seek — or get — positions of power and authority. Witness Al Franken, Howard Dean, Keith Olbermann, George Stephanopolous, etc. etc.
The best way to handle bomb-throwers is from a distance. Keep them away from any REAL power.
Not run them for Senate, or let them become national party chairmen…
And that doesn’t even touch upon people with REAL experience with REAL bomb-throwing, like Bill Ayers…
J.
And that doesn’t even touch upon people with REAL experience with REAL bomb-throwing, like Bill Ayers…
Oooh, and he sticks the dismount!
Funny, Jay (Tea), I don’t recall those people ever calling for the genocide of Arabs or defending interment, calling people “fags”, or stalking crippled children. Unless you count making Rich Lowry cry like the baby he is.
And you won’t, Zython. That’s your particular idea of “outrageous.”
Just in the last couple of weeks, Howard Dean referred to the Republican party as “the white party” and compared Republicans to Slobodan Milosevic. He also has a tremendous history of race-baiting that, quite frankly, make him look like a self-hating white man.
Olbermann has a Hitler fetish.
Stephanopolous probably doesn’t belong on the list, but he is still a former Clinton administration insider who is now considered a serious, impartial journalist.
Or so I hear — I haven’t seen that show since it was Brinkley, Donaldson, Roberts, and Will.
And has anyone ever explored the irony that while some modern-day conservatives are attacked for defending internment, but none of those critics ever defend the Democratic icon of a president who actually carried it out?
That would be educational, at the least…
J.
Shorter Jay (Tea): I have really screwed up priorities.
My apologies, Zython. I should have said something like this:
Shorter Zython: where are the left-wing bombthrowers calling for stereotypical right-wing things? WHERE?!?!?!
Duh.
J.
JT: And has anyone ever explored the irony that while some modern-day conservatives are attacked for defending internment, but none of those critics ever defend the Democratic icon of a president who actually carried it out?
Irony? Huh?
Are you suggesting that someone who thought the internments were wrong should defend Roosevelt just because he’s a Democrat? Are you really being critical of folks who are consistent in their views and don’t change them out of some warped sense of party loyalty?
“…O’Reilly tossing off a remark on his TV show…”
Yeah, I’m sure if (insert name of liberal talk show host here) said on his/her radio show that “we ought to hang (insert name of prominent conservative here),” Jay would just view it as “tossing off a remark” (rolls eyes).
“Olbermann has a Hitler fetish”.
Yeah, because no one on the right (Savage, Limbaugh, Beck, O’Reilly) compares individuals, or even whole groups of people, they disagree with to Nazis. Savage, especially, makes so many Nazi comparisons, it dwarfs whatever “Hitler fetish” Olbermann (supposedly) has.
Also, there is/have been no conservative bomb-throwers in positions of power and authority? The late Jesse Helms said that if Clinton ever visited North Carolina military bases, he’d need to bring bodyguards. When he said this, he was incoming chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (no position of power and authority, there). The then-Minority Whip of the House of Representatives (again, certainly not a position of power and authority) Newt Gingrich, said that the fact that Susan Smith drowned her children reminded people that they should vote for Republicans. Dan Burton, chairman of the Government Affairs Commmitte (no position of power and authority whatsover), called Bill Clinton a “scumbag”. The current Minority Leader of the House of Reps said that the American people “are going to hang” Nancy Pelosi. I’m certainly glad there have been no conservative bomb-throwers in positions of power and authority.
rotter, there’s a difference between elected officials acting like bomb-throwers and actively seeking out the bomb-throwers and giving them power. Dean and Franken had long established their rhetorical chops before their campaigns for Senate and DNC respectively. Hell, if it wasn’t for Dean’s internet successes, it would have been his major credential.
J.
In Jay’s world, it’s always a race to the bottom. If someone gripes about Republican wrongs, he tries to come up with an example of a similar Democratic transgression. Often, it’s not that similar, but that doesn’t stop Jay.
He reminds of an ex-employee of mine. When I said, “Bob, you’re 10 minutes late,”, Bob replied, “Steve was 12 minutes late yesterday!”. When I said, “Bob, you’re slow,” Bob’s answer was, “Not as slow as Mike.” Bob’s goal was to be no worse than the second worst at any one thing.
Bob doesn’t work for me anymore.
Bruce, Jay is incapable of criticizing Republicans/conservatives without also criticizing Democrats/liberals.
Daniel, I agree with the first 8 words of your comment.