So, Ayers was a hippie radical in the 60’s and Obama met him in the 80’s at a party that he attended with a state senator…who brought him there.

Let’s see, he’s guilty of what? Attending a party with a senator who introduced him to Ayers who was a professor and who was not convicted of any crime.

And then…oh yea, Obama was on the board of the Annenberg Challenge…an organization that existed to improve school performance through professional developement and technical assistance. Wow…yea, that’s some pretty radical stuff, all right. I’m sure that Obama was REALLY THERE to improve his ties with the old hippie radical in hopes that Ayers would renew his effort to stop the Viet Nam War, as were all the other so called civically minded folks who were a part of the Annenberg Challenge.

And Ayers probably discussed bombing goverment as part of the regular board meeting and encouraged the board members to become terrorists AND thus Obama is probably now actually a terrorist and his REAL agenda is to overthrow the goverment and then turn us all into muslims and then give our whole country to Osama Bin Laden.

Come on people. The only reason for these kind of ads is to scare people and distract them from the real issues of this country. And to insure that the powers that be continue to control this country.

One man paid 2.8 million dollars to run the Ayers add. What do YOU think HIS interests are?

Let’s face facts, They are both “Politian’s” so that makes both of them “Liars” & “Hypocrites”.

So just get off your bandwagons or your soapboxes (which ever your prefer).

As they say, “it’s the thought that counts.” No, not in the eyes of the law, but in mine.

If it’s thought that makes one a criminal, you must be pretty safe.

Parthenon, I see your point. But what I’m saying is that both McVeigh and Ayers were committed to a violent overthrow of the government, using bombs and taking lives. McVeigh died utterly unrepentant of his crimes; Ayers has been quoted as saying that maybe they didn’t bomb enough. The major difference seems to be Ayers preferred to keep his hands clean, and the Weather Underground was considerably more incompetent than McVeigh. So I do see them as rough parallels, and I can’t give Ayers any more slack than I give McVeigh. As they say, “it’s the thought that counts.” No, not in the eyes of the law, but in mine.

Juhar: nothing says you can’t do both. But I was speaking metaphorically — I would not be surprised in the least if Ayers was using his classroom to pass along his beliefs and morals (”blowing up Congress is good!”) to young, impressionable minds. The man has NO business in a classroom — except, perhaps, as a specimen for Abnormal Psych or Law Enforcement.

J.

Do YOUR homework, aw. You’re starting to make Strowbridge look like George Will.

Oh yes, continue to babble and blither about Bill Ayers from here into eternity. Bush, Cheney and all their friends have gotten tens (hundreds?) of thousands of people killed for no reason. Bush and his friends have suffered no consequences. And here you are whining about how some old posturing hippy said something nasty. Why? in the hope of somehow getting a criminal gang back into power so that a disastrous war can be extended for decades more. It’s not just pathetic, it’s physically nauseating.

Oh, and as far as your demands of me: [...] You don’t run this site any more than I do. We are both guests of the guy what pays the bills. It’s HIS right to say that and make it stick, not yours — unless he chooses to grant you that privilege.

WOW! I never knewz that! Oliver owns the BLOGG! Thankz Mister GENIUSS!!!

Wanting to kill is the same as killing? Not legally it isn’t. Not morally in my book. But I could see someone believing that, I guess.

In any of Obama’s dealings with Ayers, is there any indication that Obama waa aware of Ayer’s past? If he was, you might have a point. But if Obama was just dealing with Ayers on a professional level and knew nothing of his past dealings, acts etc., then I fail to see the relevence or the connection, i.e., Ayers=domestic terrorist Obama=Obama is a terrorist.

Give it a rest already.

1) Obama and Ayers met at Ayers’ home when State Senator Alice Palmer was introducing Obama, her political heir apparent, to people she thought would be helpful to him. Repeat: Obama’s “coming out party” was held in Ayers’ home.

2) Ayers founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and played a major role in its works. Obama served on the board for seven years, four of them as chairman. We don’t know more details, because the University of Illinois in Chicago is stonewalling on the records.

The Annenberg Challenge consisted of three bodies: The Chicago School Reform Collaborative, co-chaired by Ayers; a Board of Directors recruited by Ayers, with Obama first as Chairman for four years and later, for three years, as a member; and the Chicago Schools Research Consortium.

Yup. Real tangential ties there. Ayers hosted the party where Obama had his “coming-out,” recruited Obama to head up a division of the CAC, and the two served as heads of brother divisions of the CAC, but rarely spoke and barely knew each other.

Do YOUR homework, aw. You’re starting to make Strowbridge look like George Will.

Oh, and as far as your demands of me:

You are a raving, loony, fucking liar. Step one: read this. Step two: shut up. Don’t whine and bitch and puke, you can either shut up, or go back to your shithouse of a blog and complain about how Obama met somebody at a committee, you fat-assed, lying, loony little prick.

You don’t run this site any more than I do. We are both guests of the guy what pays the bills. It’s HIS right to say that and make it stick, not yours — unless he chooses to grant you that privilege.

J.

1 out of 3 have been significant. Keep swinging for the fences, Jay.

Just because those folks are no longer helpful to Obama doesn’t mean that they will all disappear with a wave of a magic wand.

Not as long as you guys keep flogging them, like Jim McDuggal.

Aw, I got aw all upset. I feel so guilty.

You feel guilty because you’re a liar? Well, that’s progress I suppose.

But pardon me while I savor the stupid: [...] And Bush IS going to be in the next administration?

There is a reason you can taste the stupid. You are MADE OUT of stupid.

You are a raving, loony, fucking liar. Step one: read this. Step two: shut up. Don’t whine and bitch and puke, you can either shut up, or go back to your shithouse of a blog and complain about how Obama met somebody at a committee, you fat-assed, lying, loony little prick.

But pardon me while I savor the stupid:

And that nonentity, Bill Ayers, is not going to be Vice President, or in the administration. Okay, you stupid fuck? Or shall we bring up all Bush’s criminal cronies again?

And Bush IS going to be in the next administration?

Deny it all you want, Ayers has been a significant player in Obama’s life. So was Tony Rezko. So was Jeremiah Wright. Just because those folks are no longer helpful to Obama doesn’t mean that they will all disappear with a wave of a magic wand.

As I said, I don’t see much difference between Ayers and Timothy McVeigh. Call ‘em mirror images or counterparts. One of ‘em got justice. The other got lauded and rewarded.

J.

after you’ve been caught telling a whole boatload of stupid lies, the prudent thing to do is to shut the hell up.

And that nonentity, Bill Ayers, is not going to be Vice President, or in the administration. Okay, you stupid fuck? Or shall we bring up all Bush’s criminal cronies again? Compare and contrast?

Dennis DeConcini – Democrat
John Glenn – Democrat
Alan Cranston – Democrat
Don Riegle – Democrat

None of them are running for president, Wankee fan. In fact, all of them lost thir jobs right after the scandal. McCain / Keating five are most relevant, especailly when you count the 124.6 billion in taxpayer costs.

Pakistan?

Why do I get the feeling this whole hot mess comes right out of Corsi’s book?

J.