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But, you have to remember, OW, it’s not class warfare when the McCain campaign calls Obama elitist, but it is when you point out that McCain is filthy rich and owns 10 mansions and a private jet. Because elitism is a state of mind, I mean only an elitist would refuse to acknowledge the existence of their middle-class half-sist…er, um, never mind.
So, would you consider him more like John Kerry, John Edwards, Jay Rockefeller, or Ted Kennedy? I’d say Kerry — he married the money, instead of inheriting it or getting it by chasing ambulances.
J.
At about the 2:30-ish mark: “Everywhere we looked at [buying a new house], people were turning us down because our credit rating was so bad because of the foreclosure.”
Uh, if you started out with an APR of 15%, your credit rating wasn’t that hot to begin with.
Jay, refresh my memory, was Kerry still married when he started dating Teresa?
And what’s up with Cindy McCain refusing to ever publicly acknowledge the existence of her two half-sisters(both of whom got nothing or next to nothing in her father’s will)?
Jay Tea’s absolutely right. Let’s not elect Kerry, Edwards, Rockefeller or Kennedy this year!
Oh, for the love of…
Shorter OW.com liberals: Republicans are inherently more ethically and morally corrupt. Here is anecdotal evidence to prove it.
Shorter OW.com conservatives: No, Democrats are. Here is anecdotal evidence to prove it.
Now can we all maybe move on?
No Jay. . . .
I don’t consider McCain like any of these men — as they
actually don’t think the government should put it’s boots
to the necks of the poor. It’s not McCain’s money that is objectionable; it is his hubris and cluelessness about the lives of those who DON’T have money . . .
And his need to cast Obama as an elitist and not like most Americans–when we know McCain is not like most Americans.
But I think you already know that.
As Johnny Carson said, “The rich are different from you and me…well, different from you.”
Since when did elitism become equated only with money? A person can be filthy rich and not be elitist while a person without a pot to piss in can be an elitist snob.
Elitism in politics is very common amongst the left. Why? Because they’re constantly telling us they know better than we do what is best for us and when questioned about it are given a “You just wouldn’t understand it” response.
I don’t consider McCain like any of these men — as they
actually don’t think the government should put it’s boots
to the necks of the poor.
No they just believe in making the poor so subservient that they’re continually dependent upon people like Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards and Rockefeller. For them it’s not about giving people a helping hand, but rather maintaining a grip with one hand while grasping to power with the other.
And what’s up with Cindy McCain refusing to ever publicly acknowledge the existence of her two half-sisters(both of whom got nothing or next to nothing in her father’s will)?
Nothing like watching the left create their own version of Jerry Springer for political purposes. But then again, considering Springer is one of their own, it shouldn’t surprise me.
I was going to say pretty much what Leota2 said and then he went and said it for me, but I’ll go off on Jay Tea anyway…
“So, would you consider him more like John Kerry, John Edwards, Jay Rockefeller, or Ted Kennedy? I’d say Kerry — he married the money, instead of inheriting it or getting it by chasing ambulances.”
Jay Tea,
McCain is not like any of these good men because in addition to being filthy rich, McCain doesn’t give a shit about those who are suffering. I’d compare McCain to GWB. Yep, that sounds about right.
P.S. Liberals don’t despise the rich and you’re correct, plenty of Liberals are filthy rich themselves. The difference is that Liberals want their tax dollars used in a responsible, helpful and moral manner (so instead of our money going to the war in Iraq, we’d like it put into our health care and public education systems).
The difference is that Liberals want their tax dollars used in a responsible, helpful and moral manner (so instead of our money going to the war in Iraq, we’d like it put into our health care and public education systems).
I’m weepy.
No they just believe in making the poor so subservient that they’re continually dependent upon people like Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards and Rockefeller.
I think we both know that’s a straw man. People are off welfare faster in countries with more permissive systems and little to no means testing. You can argue there’s a cultural difference in America if you wish, but it’s a real stretch to argue that the pro-labor, economically populist, pro-social programs party has an interest in keeping the poor subservient and dependent.
Elitism in politics is very common amongst the left. Why? Because they’re constantly telling us they know better than we do what is best for us and when questioned about it are given a “You just wouldn’t understand it” response.
How is the right not doing this? The very nature of conservative politics as it currently exists is based on creating very rigid rules and definitions of what is and is not acceptable lifestyle and belief system. If you support gay rights, or are pro-choice, or don’t accept Christ as your savior, then hell…you’re barely an American at all.
Pot, meet kettle.
Jay,
The things that you say make me weepy too. It’s a different kind of crying though, I think.
and when questioned about it are given a “You just wouldn’t understand it” response.
Who gave you that response? And on what? I’m sure anybody here could give you a much more articulate reply than ‘you just wouldn’t understand.’
So, it’s not elitist to shun your middle class half-sister(who she’s met), to the point of repeating the “I’m an only child” line in every single interview?
Elitism in politics is very common amongst the left. Why? Because they’re constantly telling us they know better than we do what is best for us and when questioned about it are given a “You just wouldn’t understand it” response.
Why should homosexuality be outlawed? “You just wouldn’t understand it”
Why should African Americans vote Republican? “We know better than you.”
Nope, elitism is just a symptom of the left.
Like I’ve said before, I’d rather be an intellectual elitist than a stupid prick.
but it’s a real stretch to argue that the pro-labor, economically populist, pro-social programs party has an interest in keeping the poor subservient and dependent.
Is it? Federal government programs for the poor beget even more programs for the poor. The actions of the government to ‘help’ does nothing but make dependents (not in all cases but in many of them). The problem was fixed in part due to welfare reform over 10 years ago, and the left was vehemently opposed to the passage of that bill. The left today declares it one of Bill Clinton’s biggest failures and have tried their best since the implementation of that law to overturn it. Why? The welfare reform bill of 1996 was actually pretty modest in its reforms. It should have been a starting point to further reforms.
There’s a difference between helping people during tough economic times and creating a climate where people become totally dependent upon the government for their livelihood.
Actually, I think this does a better job explaining it than I ever could.
Sorry for the multiple posts, but I’ve got one more thing.
Also, which group was saying that Haruhi-ism couldn’t be a religion because of the source material? Here’s a hint, it wasn’t the liberals.
Jay Tea, Aug 19th, 2008 at 11:02 am
So, would you consider him more like John Kerry, John Edwards, Jay Rockefeller, or Ted Kennedy? I’d say Kerry — he married the money, instead of inheriting it or getting it by chasing ambulances.
I would beg to differ.
Johnathon Sidney McCain the Third seems more like the current Resident – arrogant, an arsehole to those who are less well of than he is, and pretty much clueless about what’s going on around him. Oh, yeah – McClueless got his money through shady quasi-legal circumstances, too – just not from his grampa’s Nazi friends. He helped steal it for his beer baroness trophy wife during the Keating scandal instead.
He might be a bit like Cheney, too – illegally using his political connections to enrich him (or his beer baroness trophy wife) by manipulating the political process.
People who live in 7 glass mansions shouldn’t cast stones.
McCain is very elitist. WHile he likes to run around claiming he doesn’t do earmarks, we all know that isn’t true. He is more than happy to help his rich friends suck at the teat of government largesse. He just doesn’t believe in earmarks that might help the rest of his constituents.
I like how the words liberal and neoconservative are thrown around without any real purpose
Tom just said it was okay to refer to candidates by their middle names…
Tom just said it was okay to refer to candidates by their middle names…
No, that was you and your ultra con ilk.
SaveFarris, Aug 19th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Tom just said it was okay to refer to candidates by their middle names…
…and, because (: Tom
is aware of all internets traditions, that makes it okay for everyone to use candidates’ middle names from now until the end of time? I did not realize that my comments were so phenomenally reality-altering that they caused new internets traditions when they posted…
And they (Republican’ts) say that liberals have reading comprehension problems. Funny how the Republican’ts don’t notice that some have only used Johnathon Sidney McCain the Third, in comments sections of blogs, after Obama’s middle name was repeatedly used by Republican’ts all over the major media. So, yeah – go ahead, once more, and compare my comments and their effects to Sean Frelling Hannity talking about that Hussein guy every other minute on Faux Snooze. And forget that you clowns started this type of behavior. And then criticize me for doing the same frelling thing that you morans have been doing for over a year now.
Talk about grasping at straws. Have you contacted your local Dem Party headquarters and railed about their foul mouthed minion calling Republican’ts poopy-heads at a (no offense intended, OW) D-list blog? Have you contacted OW’s ISP host and demanded that either OW removes my comments, or they stop hosting his site? Or should I just start looking for suspicious Maglalangadingdongs riffling through my trash and peering through my windows at my countertops?
So, it’s not elitist to shun your middle class half-sister(who she’s met), to the point of repeating the “I’m an only child” line in every single intervie
So mike in DC, you would agree it’s elitist to shun your brother living in a shanty-town without electricity or water in Kenya then?
Cause that is what Barry Hussein Obama has done….
So it seems that Jay has once again run with his tail between his legs. How pathetic. And it looks like “duH” is once again taking lessons at the school of making shit up. How predictable.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html
I’m just the messenger….
Pot, meet Kettle