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	<title>Comments on: The Obama VP Pick &#8211; Final Call</title>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/18/the-obama-vp-pick-final-call/#comment-109517</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to say Evan, of course, but still hope I am wrong.</description>
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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
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		<dc:creator>mambochicken23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Edwards!

Oh, wait.... shit....</description>
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<p>Oh, wait&#8230;. shit&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/18/the-obama-vp-pick-final-call/#comment-109157</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birch Bayh. I&#039;m disappointed with Obama lately, as he has voted away the Constitution on FISA, put up little fight against the smears, and has even placed in consideration for VP the co-sponsor of the Senate bill to allow W to invade and occupy Iraq for 5-1/2 years and counting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birch Bayh. I&#8217;m disappointed with Obama lately, as he has voted away the Constitution on FISA, put up little fight against the smears, and has even placed in consideration for VP the co-sponsor of the Senate bill to allow W to invade and occupy Iraq for 5-1/2 years and counting.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Biden is affected with a permanent case of foot in mouth disease.&quot;

Biden has said some stupid things in the past, but they don&#039;t rise nearly to the level of classlessness and stupidity regarding some of McCain&#039;s gaffes.  This is a man who has made &quot;jokes&quot; regarding Chelsea Clinton allegedly being ugly and the Iranian people getting cancer from our country exporting cancer to their country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Biden is affected with a permanent case of foot in mouth disease.&#8221;</p>
<p>Biden has said some stupid things in the past, but they don&#8217;t rise nearly to the level of classlessness and stupidity regarding some of McCain&#8217;s gaffes.  This is a man who has made &#8220;jokes&#8221; regarding Chelsea Clinton allegedly being ugly and the Iranian people getting cancer from our country exporting cancer to their country.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
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		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sure hope it isn&#039;t Biden.  The way Jay describes him, I don&#039;t think it would be smart for Obama to run with a McCain clone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure hope it isn&#8217;t Biden.  The way Jay describes him, I don&#8217;t think it would be smart for Obama to run with a McCain clone.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/18/the-obama-vp-pick-final-call/#comment-108865</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Unfortunately, that was before blogs, online newspapers, 24 hours news channels, Youtube, etc. As much as it pains me to say this, AP is right. There was too much animosity between Clinton and Obama during the primaries that their sniping at each other would be nothing but a major distraction during the general election campaign. &lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I don&#039;t see it. HRC&#039;s a bad choice for loads of reasons, but that isn&#039;t one of them. It&#039;d be a distraction for people that get all their news from blogs or the Daily Show. Everybody else will be exposed to the daily nice-making in the newspapers and 24-hour news channels (except probably FNC). 

I&#039;ll grant that this was the roughest primary of which I&#039;m familiar in the modern era, but I still don&#039;t see that as all that relevant. What do the independents care if the McCain camp uses their primary battles against them? They&#039;ll just look like liars when they see Sens. Clinton and Obama making nice (moved past our differences, common vision for America, yada yada) when they come back from commercial break. I&#039;ll tell you what I think is relevant - they&#039;re not all that different ideologically, so it&#039;d be easy to blend their programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Unfortunately, that was before blogs, online newspapers, 24 hours news channels, Youtube, etc. As much as it pains me to say this, AP is right. There was too much animosity between Clinton and Obama during the primaries that their sniping at each other would be nothing but a major distraction during the general election campaign. </i></p>
<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t see it. HRC&#8217;s a bad choice for loads of reasons, but that isn&#8217;t one of them. It&#8217;d be a distraction for people that get all their news from blogs or the Daily Show. Everybody else will be exposed to the daily nice-making in the newspapers and 24-hour news channels (except probably FNC). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll grant that this was the roughest primary of which I&#8217;m familiar in the modern era, but I still don&#8217;t see that as all that relevant. What do the independents care if the McCain camp uses their primary battles against them? They&#8217;ll just look like liars when they see Sens. Clinton and Obama making nice (moved past our differences, common vision for America, yada yada) when they come back from commercial break. I&#8217;ll tell you what I think is relevant &#8211; they&#8217;re not all that different ideologically, so it&#8217;d be easy to blend their programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Why won’t Mel Torme sing for us? He just keeps talking!”&lt;/i&gt;

LMAO. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Why won’t Mel Torme sing for us? He just keeps talking!”</i></p>
<p>LMAO. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: spitar1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRC. Not that she&#039;d be my pick. Just a feeling. I think Biden, Bayh and Kaine are red herrings. If they come out with Hillary the talk of that will DOMINATE the news cycles and John McCain will be back to complaining about the biased coverage. He&#039;d be relegated to page 12 news...&quot;McCain complains in town hall meeting to the Sprintonfield County State Retired Old Folks home that he&#039;s not getting enough media attention. His remarks were met with enthusiasm from the crowd in the form of uncontrollable flatulence and confusion as to &quot;Why won&#039;t Mel Torme sing for us? He just keeps talking!&quot;

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRC. Not that she&#8217;d be my pick. Just a feeling. I think Biden, Bayh and Kaine are red herrings. If they come out with Hillary the talk of that will DOMINATE the news cycles and John McCain will be back to complaining about the biased coverage. He&#8217;d be relegated to page 12 news&#8230;&#8221;McCain complains in town hall meeting to the Sprintonfield County State Retired Old Folks home that he&#8217;s not getting enough media attention. His remarks were met with enthusiasm from the crowd in the form of uncontrollable flatulence and confusion as to &#8220;Why won&#8217;t Mel Torme sing for us? He just keeps talking!&#8221;</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There are several Presidents who took on their former rivals as running mates and did just fine. George W.W. Bush, for instance, referred to Governor Reagan’s economic plan as ‘voodoo.’ And yet they won, rather easily both times. This is not really a concern.&lt;/i&gt;

Unfortunately, that was before blogs, online newspapers, 24 hours news channels, Youtube, etc. As much as it pains me to say this, AP is right. There was too much animosity between Clinton and Obama during the primaries that their sniping at each other would be nothing but a major distraction during the general election campaign. 

I&#039;m kind of hoping for Joe Biden. Biden is afflicted with a permanent case of foot in mouth disease. He&#039;s a blowhard who likes to hear himself talk and the Obama campaign is going to be very busy issuing press releases to &quot;clarify&quot; something for which Biden was flapping his gums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are several Presidents who took on their former rivals as running mates and did just fine. George W.W. Bush, for instance, referred to Governor Reagan’s economic plan as ‘voodoo.’ And yet they won, rather easily both times. This is not really a concern.</i></p>
<p>Unfortunately, that was before blogs, online newspapers, 24 hours news channels, Youtube, etc. As much as it pains me to say this, AP is right. There was too much animosity between Clinton and Obama during the primaries that their sniping at each other would be nothing but a major distraction during the general election campaign. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of hoping for Joe Biden. Biden is afflicted with a permanent case of foot in mouth disease. He&#8217;s a blowhard who likes to hear himself talk and the Obama campaign is going to be very busy issuing press releases to &#8220;clarify&#8221; something for which Biden was flapping his gums.</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OW, we must have had the same thing for breakfast, because I was pondering the same possibilities this morning.

Biden would be a substantive choice, and would be a candidate taken very seriously by the very serious beltway chattering classes. He&#039;s been a fixture in Washington long enough to impress Chris Matthews and Mrs. Greenspan - maybe Cokie Roberts would even forgive Barack for vacationing in the State of his birth.

Yes, Biden has been in Washington since the War of 1812, but Obama has the obverse problem as McCain: He needs someone who can mollify people who may have doubts because of Obama&#039;s relatively short political office resume. McCain needs someone younger to allay the fears of him being older than Methusaleh, with one foot in the old age home and the other on a banana peel.

Although I ruled out Hillary weeks ago - mainly because of the tone of the campaign, and because she comes with some serious baggage - personally, I&#039;m starting to change my mind and beginning to think she&#039;d be a very good choice - and it would be a complete surprise - so it would almost have something akin to &quot;shock value&quot;. She would bring a lot of votes - and as far as any controversy she may bring along with her (in the form of her &quot;can&#039;t-keep-his-yap-shut&quot; husband) - I don&#039;t think the folks out there who would be offended at the choice are likely to vote for Obama anyway.

I like Wesley Clark too - but if he were to get the nod, the Media would talk about nothing else but how much he dissed John McCain&#039;s service or some such twaddle.

Whatever he does, I really don&#039;t want Bayh at all - and I&#039;ve got nothing against Kaine, but I think that would be a mistake. The Republicans will just say &quot;He&#039;s got less experience than Obama&quot; - and the prattlers on TV would be repeating it 24/7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OW, we must have had the same thing for breakfast, because I was pondering the same possibilities this morning.</p>
<p>Biden would be a substantive choice, and would be a candidate taken very seriously by the very serious beltway chattering classes. He&#8217;s been a fixture in Washington long enough to impress Chris Matthews and Mrs. Greenspan &#8211; maybe Cokie Roberts would even forgive Barack for vacationing in the State of his birth.</p>
<p>Yes, Biden has been in Washington since the War of 1812, but Obama has the obverse problem as McCain: He needs someone who can mollify people who may have doubts because of Obama&#8217;s relatively short political office resume. McCain needs someone younger to allay the fears of him being older than Methusaleh, with one foot in the old age home and the other on a banana peel.</p>
<p>Although I ruled out Hillary weeks ago &#8211; mainly because of the tone of the campaign, and because she comes with some serious baggage &#8211; personally, I&#8217;m starting to change my mind and beginning to think she&#8217;d be a very good choice &#8211; and it would be a complete surprise &#8211; so it would almost have something akin to &#8220;shock value&#8221;. She would bring a lot of votes &#8211; and as far as any controversy she may bring along with her (in the form of her &#8220;can&#8217;t-keep-his-yap-shut&#8221; husband) &#8211; I don&#8217;t think the folks out there who would be offended at the choice are likely to vote for Obama anyway.</p>
<p>I like Wesley Clark too &#8211; but if he were to get the nod, the Media would talk about nothing else but how much he dissed John McCain&#8217;s service or some such twaddle.</p>
<p>Whatever he does, I really don&#8217;t want Bayh at all &#8211; and I&#8217;ve got nothing against Kaine, but I think that would be a mistake. The Republicans will just say &#8220;He&#8217;s got less experience than Obama&#8221; &#8211; and the prattlers on TV would be repeating it 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: MacDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton and hubby Bill are too defensive and would be difficult to work with. Biden is too talkative and, like McCain, has been in Washington forever and get little done. My choice is Wesley Clark. He would balance the more diplomatic Obama with some tough talk. And he has greater military credentials than Grandpa John-loves-me-some-Bush McCain (who&#039;s military credentials are sketchy, at best).

If Clark backs up Obama, you can take to the bank. It&#039;s good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton and hubby Bill are too defensive and would be difficult to work with. Biden is too talkative and, like McCain, has been in Washington forever and get little done. My choice is Wesley Clark. He would balance the more diplomatic Obama with some tough talk. And he has greater military credentials than Grandpa John-loves-me-some-Bush McCain (who&#8217;s military credentials are sketchy, at best).</p>
<p>If Clark backs up Obama, you can take to the bank. It&#8217;s good.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand he has since left the Republican party and is an Independent now. Which is confusing because he is in the Republicans for Obama club.

Still and all, a definition of moderate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand he has since left the Republican party and is an Independent now. Which is confusing because he is in the Republicans for Obama club.</p>
<p>Still and all, a definition of moderate.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. Should have guessed, one of them McKinley/TR/Eisenhower republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. Should have guessed, one of them McKinley/TR/Eisenhower republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linc&#039;s dad was a Republican, and he took his father&#039;s Senate seat upon his unexpected death. As far as I&#039;ve read, he&#039;s a Republican who wishes the party hadn&#039;t been taken over by the neocon cabal, and still holds some classically Republican positions that the GOP itself no longer considers worth its time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linc&#8217;s dad was a Republican, and he took his father&#8217;s Senate seat upon his unexpected death. As far as I&#8217;ve read, he&#8217;s a Republican who wishes the party hadn&#8217;t been taken over by the neocon cabal, and still holds some classically Republican positions that the GOP itself no longer considers worth its time.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, Cactus Nancy has a nice ring to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, Cactus Nancy has a nice ring to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody know why in hell Chafee was even a Republican?

&lt;i&gt;An Obama administration has to be similar to FDR’s first term. Try anything and everything.&lt;/i&gt;

I guess the parallel to John Garner would be... Nancy Pelosi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody know why in hell Chafee was even a Republican?</p>
<p><i>An Obama administration has to be similar to FDR’s first term. Try anything and everything.</i></p>
<p>I guess the parallel to John Garner would be&#8230; Nancy Pelosi?</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, who really looks forward to Hillary Clinton having the same powers as Darth Cheney? Certainly not Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, who really looks forward to Hillary Clinton having the same powers as Darth Cheney? Certainly not Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let&#039;s not consider Clinton or Gore anymore. The 90&#039;s are over. Obama is the candidate of change - I hear - so why would he dust off those retreads? As Jack Nicholson said &quot;This town needs an enema!&quot;

Start fresh. Start clean. An Obama administration has to be similar to FDR&#039;s first term. Try anything and everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let&#8217;s not consider Clinton or Gore anymore. The 90&#8217;s are over. Obama is the candidate of change &#8211; I hear &#8211; so why would he dust off those retreads? As Jack Nicholson said &#8220;This town needs an enema!&#8221;</p>
<p>Start fresh. Start clean. An Obama administration has to be similar to FDR&#8217;s first term. Try anything and everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lincoln Chafee.


What?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincoln Chafee.</p>
<p>What?</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**That last paragraph should read &#039;George H.W. Bush,&#039; if that wasn&#039;t obvious. Still looking through those secretary resumes...**</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**That last paragraph should read &#8216;George H.W. Bush,&#8217; if that wasn&#8217;t obvious. Still looking through those secretary resumes&#8230;**</p>
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