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		<title>By: SFC B</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108670</link>
		<dc:creator>SFC B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If only we had some way to store energy captured during the day.&quot;

Too bad that charging batteries is one of the least efficient uses of energy possible.  IIRC it requires about three times the energy stored to actually charge a battery.  So you&#039;d basically be left with the choice of having your residential solar array provide power to your house during the day, but leave you in the dark.  Or you could go without power during the day, but have electricity at night.  I suppose if you&#039;re lucky enough to live near the CA coast then you could use your solar during the day, then have wind power at night.

&quot;Solar power produces energy at peak use times.&quot;

That actually depends on where you live and the time of year.  In winter the sun is already setting during peak power demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If only we had some way to store energy captured during the day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too bad that charging batteries is one of the least efficient uses of energy possible.  IIRC it requires about three times the energy stored to actually charge a battery.  So you&#8217;d basically be left with the choice of having your residential solar array provide power to your house during the day, but leave you in the dark.  Or you could go without power during the day, but have electricity at night.  I suppose if you&#8217;re lucky enough to live near the CA coast then you could use your solar during the day, then have wind power at night.</p>
<p>&#8220;Solar power produces energy at peak use times.&#8221;</p>
<p>That actually depends on where you live and the time of year.  In winter the sun is already setting during peak power demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Gravypan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108596</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravypan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There’s no problem with tankers spilling oil.&quot;

Of course not.

Well, except for that post Oliver did a few weeks back about the oil spill in New Orleans that he claimed was a harbinger of things to come if we allowed for more drilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s no problem with tankers spilling oil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not.</p>
<p>Well, except for that post Oliver did a few weeks back about the oil spill in New Orleans that he claimed was a harbinger of things to come if we allowed for more drilling.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And how many innocent people will have to die falling off roofs installing solar panels before we stop the insanity!&lt;/i&gt;

Most folks would probably hire someone to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And how many innocent people will have to die falling off roofs installing solar panels before we stop the insanity!</i></p>
<p>Most folks would probably hire someone to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: j mccann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108568</link>
		<dc:creator>j mccann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an imposter here! 

Grrr.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an imposter here! </p>
<p>Grrr&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: PD100</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s the same tactic they use on other issues they’d like to avoid, like Social Security reform.&lt;/i&gt;

  Ah, you mean by putting the social safety net in the hands of private industry, like the mortgage industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s the same tactic they use on other issues they’d like to avoid, like Social Security reform.</i></p>
<p>  Ah, you mean by putting the social safety net in the hands of private industry, like the mortgage industry?</p>
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		<title>By: j mccann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108551</link>
		<dc:creator>j mccann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote for John McCain, the candidate of despair and stagnation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote for John McCain, the candidate of despair and stagnation!</p>
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		<title>By: j mccann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108546</link>
		<dc:creator>j mccann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 Oliver Willis 
Aug 17th, 2008 at 9:12 pm 
We should leave our energy future up to the whims of tropical storms. That’s clearly a sane position to have.&quot;

Right, right. I&#039;ll just inflate my tires and fill my tank up with some &quot;hope and change.&quot; Heard &quot;hope and change&quot; get 100 mpg. 

And what should we do with the other oil rigs --- just shut&#039;em down? 

Brilliant. You should be energy czar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 Oliver Willis<br />
Aug 17th, 2008 at 9:12 pm<br />
We should leave our energy future up to the whims of tropical storms. That’s clearly a sane position to have.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right, right. I&#8217;ll just inflate my tires and fill my tank up with some &#8220;hope and change.&#8221; Heard &#8220;hope and change&#8221; get 100 mpg. </p>
<p>And what should we do with the other oil rigs &#8212; just shut&#8217;em down? </p>
<p>Brilliant. You should be energy czar.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ed, can you confirm that solar energy isn’t very energetic at night?&lt;/em&gt;

If only we had some way to store energy captured during the day.

And Mr. Tea, you forgot the irony quotes on Social Security &quot;reform.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ed, can you confirm that solar energy isn’t very energetic at night?</em></p>
<p>If only we had some way to store energy captured during the day.</p>
<p>And Mr. Tea, you forgot the irony quotes on Social Security &#8220;reform.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
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		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, your position is &quot;try everything as long as it involves oil.&quot; 

Oil Rig disasters http://www.oilrigdisasters.co.uk/



Solar power produces energy at peak use times.  There is a growing business model called PPA (Power Purchase Agreement) where a solar energy company places their equipment on a business building and then sells the power at discount to that business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, your position is &#8220;try everything as long as it involves oil.&#8221; </p>
<p>Oil Rig disasters <a href="http://www.oilrigdisasters.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oilrigdisasters.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>Solar power produces energy at peak use times.  There is a growing business model called PPA (Power Purchase Agreement) where a solar energy company places their equipment on a business building and then sells the power at discount to that business.</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108523</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point the First:  How much valuable coastline, and how many productive fisheries, will be destroyed by having solar panels blown off someone&#039;s roof vs. one of those &quot;non-existent&quot; platform oil spills like happened in the Gulf after Katrina?

Point the Second: The Dems say &quot;no to everything&quot; on issues like &quot;social security reform&quot; because &quot;social security reform&quot; is code for &quot;we want to destroy every last vestige from that pinko sumbitch FDR&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point the First:  How much valuable coastline, and how many productive fisheries, will be destroyed by having solar panels blown off someone&#8217;s roof vs. one of those &#8220;non-existent&#8221; platform oil spills like happened in the Gulf after Katrina?</p>
<p>Point the Second: The Dems say &#8220;no to everything&#8221; on issues like &#8220;social security reform&#8221; because &#8220;social security reform&#8221; is code for &#8220;we want to destroy every last vestige from that pinko sumbitch FDR&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Syco</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108522</link>
		<dc:creator>Syco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Gore has a personal vendetta against you unless you voted for bush and live in Florida. In that case you should avoid people wearing Guy Fawkes mask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Gore has a personal vendetta against you unless you voted for bush and live in Florida. In that case you should avoid people wearing Guy Fawkes mask.</p>
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		<title>By: duh</title>
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		<dc:creator>duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parth my point is simply that all of our current forms of energy production have potential downsides. 

This magical thinking that we can just invent the &quot;perfect&quot; source of energy is plain dewy-eyed optimism.  Just as you, I am sure, have a balanced portfolio of investments to help spread the risk, we should also have a balanced portfolio of energy.  The difference may be that as we find one source that seems to be sustainable and has all the other advantages we like, we can slowly increase our holdings in that source.

And BTW, I would leave my energy future up to the &quot;whims&quot; of a tropical storm over the &quot;whims&quot; of al gore any day.  A tropical storm might accidentally ruin my life, Al Gore is trying to do it deliberately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parth my point is simply that all of our current forms of energy production have potential downsides. </p>
<p>This magical thinking that we can just invent the &#8220;perfect&#8221; source of energy is plain dewy-eyed optimism.  Just as you, I am sure, have a balanced portfolio of investments to help spread the risk, we should also have a balanced portfolio of energy.  The difference may be that as we find one source that seems to be sustainable and has all the other advantages we like, we can slowly increase our holdings in that source.</p>
<p>And BTW, I would leave my energy future up to the &#8220;whims&#8221; of a tropical storm over the &#8220;whims&#8221; of al gore any day.  A tropical storm might accidentally ruin my life, Al Gore is trying to do it deliberately.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My position is “try everything.”&lt;/i&gt;


It&#039;s a philosophy like that that got us the Iraq War. It&#039;s a good personal policy, but one that doesn&#039;t work too well in national policy making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My position is “try everything.”</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a philosophy like that that got us the Iraq War. It&#8217;s a good personal policy, but one that doesn&#8217;t work too well in national policy making.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/oil-prices-rise-due-to-threat-of-tropical-storm-fay/#comment-108484</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parthenon, the push is NOT to repeal ban on just offshore billing off the eastern and southern coasts. The ban covers the Pacific coast, too. 

And JWG brought up a point I&#039;m ashamed to admit I missed -- I&#039;d love to see how much oil has been spilled by tankers versus drilling rigs. I can recall exactly one drilling-related disaster in the last 40 years versus numerous oil tanker disasters (Exxon Valdez, anyone), but I am hardly an expert.

My position is &quot;try everything.&quot; The Democrats&#039; position seems to be &quot;find a way to say no to everything.&quot; It&#039;s the same tactic they use on other issues they&#039;d like to avoid, like Social Security reform.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parthenon, the push is NOT to repeal ban on just offshore billing off the eastern and southern coasts. The ban covers the Pacific coast, too. </p>
<p>And JWG brought up a point I&#8217;m ashamed to admit I missed &#8212; I&#8217;d love to see how much oil has been spilled by tankers versus drilling rigs. I can recall exactly one drilling-related disaster in the last 40 years versus numerous oil tanker disasters (Exxon Valdez, anyone), but I am hardly an expert.</p>
<p>My position is &#8220;try everything.&#8221; The Democrats&#8217; position seems to be &#8220;find a way to say no to everything.&#8221; It&#8217;s the same tactic they use on other issues they&#8217;d like to avoid, like Social Security reform.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: JWG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we&#039;re much better off just transporting most of our oil in tankers across the ocean. There&#039;s no problem with tankers spilling oil. And they don&#039;t use any carbon-based energy for fuel, either.

You can&#039;t be this dumb. It&#039;s just an act, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we&#8217;re much better off just transporting most of our oil in tankers across the ocean. There&#8217;s no problem with tankers spilling oil. And they don&#8217;t use any carbon-based energy for fuel, either.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be this dumb. It&#8217;s just an act, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Here’s a question: when was California last hit by a hurricane? &lt;/i&gt;

Yes, hurricanes wouldn&#039;t be a problem in the west. So? Only half the off-coast rigs aren&#039;t enough to valuable in the discussion?

&lt;i&gt;Here’s another: is Oliver calling for closing down all oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico?&lt;/i&gt;

Not sure if he&#039;d advocate that position, but he hasn&#039;t said that. Not even implied it. What he has said is that we ought not put all our eggs in oil&#039;s basket, and - I&#039;m assuming - start using more of the alternative technologies we have &lt;b&gt;now.&lt;/b&gt; Which is a fine point. 

&lt;i&gt;ed, can you confirm that solar energy isn’t very energetic at night?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/18539/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is just one article about how this is being solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Here’s a question: when was California last hit by a hurricane? </i></p>
<p>Yes, hurricanes wouldn&#8217;t be a problem in the west. So? Only half the off-coast rigs aren&#8217;t enough to valuable in the discussion?</p>
<p><i>Here’s another: is Oliver calling for closing down all oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico?</i></p>
<p>Not sure if he&#8217;d advocate that position, but he hasn&#8217;t said that. Not even implied it. What he has said is that we ought not put all our eggs in oil&#8217;s basket, and &#8211; I&#8217;m assuming &#8211; start using more of the alternative technologies we have <b>now.</b> Which is a fine point. </p>
<p><i>ed, can you confirm that solar energy isn’t very energetic at night?</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/18539/" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is just one article about how this is being solved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a question: when was California last hit by a hurricane? 

Here&#039;s another: is Oliver calling for closing down all oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico?

duh nailed it. &quot;teh stoopid,&quot; indeed.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question: when was California last hit by a hurricane? </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another: is Oliver calling for closing down all oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico?</p>
<p>duh nailed it. &#8220;teh stoopid,&#8221; indeed.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: duh</title>
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		<dc:creator>duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ed, can you confirm that solar energy isn&#039;t very energetic at night?

How about the effects of hurricanes on windmills?  Deleterious I hear.

And how many innocent people will have to die falling off roofs installing solar panels before we stop the insanity!

Truly, the level of teh stoopid is becoming asymptotic in Olivers writing....I mean, it almost can&#039;t get any worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ed, can you confirm that solar energy isn&#8217;t very energetic at night?</p>
<p>How about the effects of hurricanes on windmills?  Deleterious I hear.</p>
<p>And how many innocent people will have to die falling off roofs installing solar panels before we stop the insanity!</p>
<p>Truly, the level of teh stoopid is becoming asymptotic in Olivers writing&#8230;.I mean, it almost can&#8217;t get any worse.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JWG, I heard from a number of important people on important TV programs that not one drop of oil was spilled on Gulf oil rigs as a result of Hurricane Katrina. Can you confirm or deny that claim? The facts on that seem kind of fuzzy for some reason. Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JWG, I heard from a number of important people on important TV programs that not one drop of oil was spilled on Gulf oil rigs as a result of Hurricane Katrina. Can you confirm or deny that claim? The facts on that seem kind of fuzzy for some reason. Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should leave our energy future up to the whims of tropical storms. That&#039;s clearly a sane position to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should leave our energy future up to the whims of tropical storms. That&#8217;s clearly a sane position to have.</p>
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