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	<title>Comments on: Colorado Senate Candidate Bob Schaffer Cries For The Poor Oil Companies</title>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/colorado-senate-candidate-bob-schaffer-cries-for-the-poor-oil-companies/#comment-108625</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m also sorry that I don’t understand simple economic principles like public financing.&lt;/i&gt;

Fixed.

&lt;i&gt;I’m sorry you can’t be bothered to see the other side of an argument, Oliver.&lt;/i&gt;

He sees it just fine, it&#039;s just stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m also sorry that I don’t understand simple economic principles like public financing.</i></p>
<p>Fixed.</p>
<p><i>I’m sorry you can’t be bothered to see the other side of an argument, Oliver.</i></p>
<p>He sees it just fine, it&#8217;s just stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Gravypan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/colorado-senate-candidate-bob-schaffer-cries-for-the-poor-oil-companies/#comment-108595</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravypan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry you can&#039;t be bothered to see the other side of an argument, Oliver.

Not that I&#039;m surprised that a narrow minded hack like yourself has never been bothered.

I&#039;m also sorry that you don&#039;t understand simple economic principles like supply and demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry you can&#8217;t be bothered to see the other side of an argument, Oliver.</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m surprised that a narrow minded hack like yourself has never been bothered.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also sorry that you don&#8217;t understand simple economic principles like supply and demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/colorado-senate-candidate-bob-schaffer-cries-for-the-poor-oil-companies/#comment-108558</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so Mr. Tillerson took time out from counting his &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/11/exxon-ceo-consequences/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;$21 million&lt;/a&gt; to play the violin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so Mr. Tillerson took time out from counting his <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/11/exxon-ceo-consequences/" rel="nofollow">$21 million</a> to play the violin?</p>
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		<title>By: Gravypan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gravypan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/Story?id=5571606&amp;page=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Charles Gibson&#039;s interview with the CEO of Exxon/Mobil, Rex Tillerson...&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;CHARLES GIBSON: We in the media have made a lot of the profits that ExxonMobil has made, particularly in the last couple of quarters -- more than $10 billion in profits first quarter this year; more than $11.5 billion in the second quarter of the year. When people, I don&#039;t know, complain about that to you or say how dare you? Those profits are obscene. What&#039;s your best -- in brief form -- what&#039;s your best justification?

REX TILLERSON: Well, I think it has to do with an ability to understand just the size of our business. Everything we do, the numbers are very large. I saw someone characterize our profits the other day in terms of $1,400 in profit per second. Well, they also need to understand we paid $4,000 a second in taxes, and we spent $15,000 a second in cost. We spend $1 billion a day just running our business. So this is a business where large numbers are just characteristic of it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So if their profits are obscene, what does that make the taxes they pay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/Story?id=5571606&amp;page=2" rel="nofollow">Charles Gibson&#8217;s interview with the CEO of Exxon/Mobil, Rex Tillerson&#8230;</a></p>
<blockquote><p>CHARLES GIBSON: We in the media have made a lot of the profits that ExxonMobil has made, particularly in the last couple of quarters &#8212; more than $10 billion in profits first quarter this year; more than $11.5 billion in the second quarter of the year. When people, I don&#8217;t know, complain about that to you or say how dare you? Those profits are obscene. What&#8217;s your best &#8212; in brief form &#8212; what&#8217;s your best justification?</p>
<p>REX TILLERSON: Well, I think it has to do with an ability to understand just the size of our business. Everything we do, the numbers are very large. I saw someone characterize our profits the other day in terms of $1,400 in profit per second. Well, they also need to understand we paid $4,000 a second in taxes, and we spent $15,000 a second in cost. We spend $1 billion a day just running our business. So this is a business where large numbers are just characteristic of it.</p></blockquote>
<p>So if their profits are obscene, what does that make the taxes they pay?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/colorado-senate-candidate-bob-schaffer-cries-for-the-poor-oil-companies/#comment-108528</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I guess it’s just a different way of thinking, that when someone makes a large amount of money the government is entitled to take a bunch of it.&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, well we tried taking money from companies that were &lt;em&gt;losing&lt;/em&gt; money, but it didn&#039;t work out so good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I guess it’s just a different way of thinking, that when someone makes a large amount of money the government is entitled to take a bunch of it.</em></p>
<p>Yeah, well we tried taking money from companies that were <em>losing</em> money, but it didn&#8217;t work out so good.</p>
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		<title>By: Scratch</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/colorado-senate-candidate-bob-schaffer-cries-for-the-poor-oil-companies/#comment-108527</link>
		<dc:creator>Scratch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill...

I was referring to the sense of alarm at the record profits, and the idea vocalized by some that there should be some sort of surcharge or punitive tax.  It reminds me of the big tobacco settlements a few years ago...all the hand wringing when people realized what a 30% attorney&#039;s fee on a multi-billion dollar settlement was going to add up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill&#8230;</p>
<p>I was referring to the sense of alarm at the record profits, and the idea vocalized by some that there should be some sort of surcharge or punitive tax.  It reminds me of the big tobacco settlements a few years ago&#8230;all the hand wringing when people realized what a 30% attorney&#8217;s fee on a multi-billion dollar settlement was going to add up to.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess it’s just a different way of thinking, that when someone makes a large amount of money the government is entitled to take a bunch of it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Progressive taxation, or, you know, the system we currently use in the U.S., or used to, anyway.

God, cons are such teh smartones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess it’s just a different way of thinking, that when someone makes a large amount of money the government is entitled to take a bunch of it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Progressive taxation, or, you know, the system we currently use in the U.S., or used to, anyway.</p>
<p>God, cons are such teh smartones.</p>
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		<title>By: Scratch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scratch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s just a different way of thinking, that when someone makes a large amount of money the government is entitled to take a bunch of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s just a different way of thinking, that when someone makes a large amount of money the government is entitled to take a bunch of it.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/colorado-senate-candidate-bob-schaffer-cries-for-the-poor-oil-companies/#comment-108491</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then shouldn&#039;t the answer be to get rid of earmarks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then shouldn&#8217;t the answer be to get rid of earmarks?</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/17/colorado-senate-candidate-bob-schaffer-cries-for-the-poor-oil-companies/#comment-108465</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before anybody sneaks in here with any blather about fuel taxes, here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/transportation/july-dec07/infrastructure_08-15.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Transportation Secretary Mary Peters&lt;/a&gt; last year after the Minnesota bridge collapse on where that revenue is spent --

&lt;i&gt;MARY PETERS: You know, I think Americans would be shocked to learn that only about 60 percent of the gas tax money that they pay today actually goes into highway and bridge construction. Much of it goes in many, many other areas.&lt;/i&gt;

[SNIP]

(Peters later says that the other forty percent funds earmarks)

&lt;i&gt;GWEN IFILL: Aren&#039;t many of those projects, even though they&#039;re special interest projects, aren&#039;t they roads and bridges, often?

MARY PETERS: Gwen, some of them are, but many of them are not. There are museums that are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before anybody sneaks in here with any blather about fuel taxes, here is <a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/transportation/july-dec07/infrastructure_08-15.html" rel="nofollow">Transportation Secretary Mary Peters</a> last year after the Minnesota bridge collapse on where that revenue is spent &#8211;</p>
<p><i>MARY PETERS: You know, I think Americans would be shocked to learn that only about 60 percent of the gas tax money that they pay today actually goes into highway and bridge construction. Much of it goes in many, many other areas.</i></p>
<p>[SNIP]</p>
<p>(Peters later says that the other forty percent funds earmarks)</p>
<p><i>GWEN IFILL: Aren&#8217;t many of those projects, even though they&#8217;re special interest projects, aren&#8217;t they roads and bridges, often?</p>
<p>MARY PETERS: Gwen, some of them are, but many of them are not. There are museums that are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure.</i></p>
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