Who does this guy think he is? I mean, regular blue blood Americans with 7-figure salaries like Cokie Roberts just can’t understand the sort of guy who visits the tomb and memorial to sailors who were killed in an act of war against the United States. I mean, why would Japan have even attacked Pearl Harbor since it clearly isn’t in America, right?
Here are some pictures of my own I took at the strange, exotic and foreign USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii. It practically makes me a citizen of the world.
Look at all those dark un-American folks.
Tsk tsk.
Have you seen this yet?
http://www.horsesass.org/?p=5886
Why people even pay attention to that woman is beyond me. Her people come from Louisiana; talk about foreign places, it’s weirder than Hawaii to most Americans. I guess if you are rich and white and drink with the boys, a woman can go far.
Hawaii is mostly a middle-brow vacation spot. Because of the long flight from the East Coast, the fare is not cheap, and it’s a tourist economy so rooms are not cheap. But they are not cheap in Ocean City, MD, this time of year.
I have become convinced that the most of the media – especially the jurassic throwback Cokie Roberts – view Obama the same way that they viewed the Clintons: not our kind, dear, this is not his city. So Obama delendus est.
“white short sleeve shirts are exotic”-Cokie Roberts
“terrorist handshake”-ED Hill
“Obama exploited the sailors”-Tucker Bounds
“you can get leprosy from people in Hawaii”-Lou Dobbs
“Obama was there to stock up on forged birth certificates”-Jerome Corsi
What may be even harder for Cokie to understand than why the Japanese would have attacked such an exotic place is why the U.S. would have declared war on Japan in response. It wasn’t Myrtle Beach was it?
I sure hope those aren’t his kids in the photos. He declared them off limits for cameras and the like.
That was right after the gossip TV show interview and a couple weeks before the People Magazine cover, as I recall.
J.
So Jay Tea, if paparazzi snap pic of Obama with his kids, what exactly do you propose he do? After he’s president, of course, he can use all the wonderful untrammeled power that W has arrogated to himself to have the offenders wiretapped, arrested without warrant, imprisoned indefinitely without trial, and tortured in his shiny gulags. Unfortunately he’s not president yet.
Yeah, and of course had Sen. Obama not gone on the trip with his kids we would hear about how this proves Obama hates children, ad absurdium.
“I sure hope those aren’t his kids in the photos. He declared them off limits for cameras and the like.
Are these two sentences supposed to be a criticism of the person taking the pictures or of Barack Obama himself? If it’s the latter, since Obama cannot control media photographers who go against his wishes, I think Jay should be diagnosed with ABODS (Anti-Barack-Obama Derangement Syndrome).
Actually, I was just using the picture as a springboard for reminding folks about the TV gossip show special featuring Obama’s children, which triggered him saying that he was not going to be putting them front and center in the campaign, and asked the press and whatnot to leave them out. Then, a couple of weeks later, all four of the Obamas get a cover feature in People magazine.
Obama with his family at the Arizona memorial? Absolutely. I hope to go there myself one day and pay my respects. On the cover of People Magazine, after Obama says “no more publicity of the kids?”
That’s like Obama saying he doesn’t like people critiquing his wife, yet still sends her out on campaign stops — talking to women’s groups in Chicago, trying to line up military wives, and whatnot.
Obama seems to think that he can decide how his family is covered — it’s fine to talk about them positively, but anything else is unfair and off limits. I think not.
Especially Mrs. Obama. If she’s going to make campaign speeches and whatnot, then it is perfectly fair to actually discuss what she says and criticizing it. Whether or not he likes it.
If she doesn’t like it, then let her pull a “Laura Bush” and just not make a point of campaigning on her own.
J.
I’m sorry, I’m failing to see the Horrible! Hypocrisy! inherent in your description. Obama doesn’t “like” it when people criticize his wife and would prefer they do not do so, even if she’s campaigning by his side. Strangely, Michelle Obama’s husband doesn’t like it when people criticize his wife. Go figure; that sounds like any decent husband.
This is petty crap on your part, Jay Tea. I know you have bigger beef with Obama than “I won’t vote for him because of his views on how the media portrays his family.”
“…you have a bigger beef…”
Yea, the guy lies through his teeth whenever it suits him.
Spider, it’s the double standard.
Obama said “lay off my wife.” He said “If they think that they’re going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family.”
“Attacking my wife” is his interpretation of “paying attention to what she says and does while campaigning on her husband’s behalf, treating it as serious, and responding to her as we would any other person acting in a political fashion.”
Contrast that with how Cindy McCain is being treated. Her addiction to painkillers years ago (for which she pleaded guilty and paid her debt to society) is constantly brought up. Her family’s money is always discussed, negatively. John McCain’s first wife is hounded all the time, even though she has said she bears him no ill will and doesn’t want to be involved in this mess. (Witness the story elsewhere on this site about the lawsuit between McCain’s mother and ex-wife.)
The Obamas invited a TV gossip show into their home, to film them and their children. Then Obama said that was a mistake, that he wouldn’t be using his kids for any more publicity stunts. And then they all posed for the cover of People Magazine.
Or for another parallel, Obama on the Heller decision on the DC gun ban. He was a staunch supporter of the ban all the way, right up to the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional. At that point, he said he said he supported the Court’s ruling. But he still supported the ban. So he supports a measure that he agrees is unconstitutional.
Or back during his legal career. Editor of Law Review, professor of Constitutional Law. Not a single paper ever published. Not once did he express his opinions and findings and thoughts on a matter of import, in a way that would open him up for review and criticism and examination. He went to great strides to remain a tabula rasa for any and all to project their own aspirations.
It all ties together. And it’s not simple flip-flopping. It transcends that. It’s having it both ways — and, occasaionally, more than two ways — at the same time. It’s the petulant demand of the child, not the attitude of someone who wants to be entrusted with the leadership of the free world.
Thanks, but no thanks.
J.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Yes, well, I think a swarm of locusts will scour the land if your guy is elected.
Don’t make me dump a rain of frogs on your ass, Parthenon…
J.
It’s the petulant demand of the child, not the attitude of someone who wants to be entrusted with the leadership of the free world.
I haven’t followed your politics with grim fascination for the past eight years, Jay Tea, so I can only assume you’re one of us folks who saw the same things in our current leadership and were shouted down for two separate elections. I feel your pain.
I mean, if you were a Bush supporter and still able to write the above sentence with a straight face, you’d have to be dishonest at best and deranged at worst.
Spider, I dunno what Bush has to do with anything here. If you’re saying that I’m talking about Obama in terms you associate with Bush, then maybe you can understand the resistance some of us give him. If you’re saying that this is the best defense you can give Obama, then it speaks how shallow your support is.
I’ll play along with your little diversionary tactic for a moment, though. I voted for Bush twice because I looked at his Democratic opponents each time and said “good god, Bush can’t be worse than that bozo.”
If you’d like to discuss the issues I have raised about Obama, Spider, please, feel free. If you’d rather turn the discussion to Bush or me or anything else but those issues, Spider, have fun monologuing. I’ll pass on that one — except, perhaps, to note your desire to not talk about Obama’s weaknesses and failings.
J.
I’m fine discussing his important failings. This conversation about whether or not his kids should be allowed to be in photos is an example of molehills made mountains.
What I’m saying is that I find your judgment suspect, and your views on double standards to be laughable. Bush had proven himself even before 2000 to be exactly the sort of “petulant child” you claim Obama is (again, over piddling nonsense like media photography), but you gave him a pass. Twice. Your reasons for that are your own, but it makes certain arguments you have against Obama unconvincing.
“…your desire to not talk about Obama’s weaknesses and failings”.
Like Jay is jumping at the bit to talk about McCain’s (many) weaknesses and failings.
Daniel, this November I’m gonna do exactly what I did the last two presidential elections: hold my nose and vote for the one who stinks less. And this time around, it seems to be McCain.
So why isn’t anyone leaping to the defense of this great Constitutional scholar and explaining just how he can simultaneously support the DC gun ban AND the Supreme Court decision striking it down? Why is everyone so eager to let that slide, and instead change the discussion to George W. Bush (who, I believe, is not running for anything this time) and me (which I find extremely flattering)?
Your emperor has no clothes, folks. Wake up and see the empty suit.
J.
So why isn’t anyone leaping to the defense of this great Constitutional scholar and explaining just how he can simultaneously support women’s reproductive rights AND oppose Roe v. Wade?
Fixed.
Poor Jay (Tea), why do you hate America so much?
(Expecting Jay to run with his tail between his legs in 3-2-1…)
I’ll play along with your little diversionary tactic for a moment, though. I voted for Bush twice because I looked at his Democratic opponents each time and said “good god, Bush can’t be worse than that bozo.”
Look, I understand that you’re busted up that Bush didn’t make homosexuality and abortions punishable by socialized vengeance. Really, my heart goes out to you.
*Plays a violin*
Zython has apparently chosen to be lazy and play to stereotypes, as I’m on record several times as “squishily pro-choice” and a backer of gay marriage. But hey, it’s easier than thinking, isn’t it? Or trying to defend the defenseless, like Obama’s “credentials” as a legal scholar…
Oh, and Roe v. Wade is an absymal ruling. Some of the worst “thinking” in law since… god, I dunno, Plessy v. Ferguson?
J.
“…change the discussion to George W. Bush (who, I believe is not running this time)…”
So it’s illegitimate to talk about a president still in office who is not “running for anything?” Did you feel that way when the Rush Limbaughs and Ann Coulters of America were discussing Bill Clinton (in exclusively negative terms, of course) circa 1997-2000 (when, of course, Clinton wasn’t “running for anything.”)?
well, daniel, for one, in 1998 Clinton was kinda-sorta “running” to stay in office and not get tossed out on his ass. For another, he wasn’t overly germane to discussions about who should be elected to succeed him, other than in the context of how much his vice-president would be carrying on his policies — policies said veep allegedly had a hefty stake in crafting anc executing.
So, why do you want to talk about Bush so much this election cycle, anyway, to the exclusion of Obama? I thought he was all about the future and the new politics and leaving the past behind? One would think that people who believe in him and that would be eager to talk about that.
Could it be that you’re voting for Obama for the very same reasons I voted for bush, and why I’m leaning towards mcCain — that “at least he’s not as bad as the other guy?”
How very enlightening.
J.
Zython has apparently chosen to be lazy and play to stereotypes,
Well, the ultra cons have been doing it to me for the last 7 years, so I’m doing it to them for the next 70.
Glad to see you’re more than willing to sink to their level, Zython, instead of showing you’re better.
That, plus it gives you a ready-made excuse to support Obama without having to, you know, say why he’s good. Instead, you can focus on why the other guy’s bad.
The last two times I actively supported a candidate, and didn’t just figure “he’s the least bad,” were Fred Thompson and Bill Bradley. (I was just barely too young to vote for Reagan.)
J.
Glad to see you’re more than willing to sink to their level, Zython, instead of showing you’re better.
I tried that for 7 years. It didn’t take.
That, plus it gives you a ready-made excuse to support Obama without having to, you know, say why he’s good. Instead, you can focus on why the other guy’s bad.
Such is the folly of a 2 party system.
The last two times I actively supported a candidate, and didn’t just figure “he’s the least bad,” were Fred Thompson and Bill Bradley. (I was just barely too young to vote for Reagan.)
You don’t seem to have a problem with doing it, why should I?
“well, daniel, for one, in 1998..”
My challenge to you involved “circa 1997-2000,” not just 1998. Again, since you apparently feel it is wrong to talk about a president who is not running for another term, did you feel the same way when the Rush Limbaughs and Ann Coulters of the world were bashing Clinton during the four years I mentioned? Or you have a blatant double standard in this regard?
My family is from Louisiana. I’ve always thought of it as a foriegn country.
The law is based on the Napoleanic Code and they call counties parishes. Plus they eat wierd shit.
why do you guys even bother reading jay teabagger’s crap anyway? I just skip over anything with his name at the top.
Here are so more pics of Barack & his family @ the USS Arizona. My wife and i were tourists who happened to be there the same time he was…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschultz/2770492919/in/set-72157606782577302/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschultz/2770493991/in/set-72157606782577302/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschultz/2771341316/in/set-72157606782577302/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschultz/2770494745/in/set-72157606782577302/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschultz/2770495269/in/set-72157606782577302/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschultz/2771342804/in/set-72157606782577302/