Comments on: Joe? http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:30:20 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: SpiderJ http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108225 SpiderJ Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:31:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108225 Hey, if Cindy's going to slather on the makeup like a trollop, then John must be entitled to treat her like one. Hey, if Cindy’s going to slather on the makeup like a trollop, then John must be entitled to treat her like one.

]]> By: ed http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108222 ed Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:23:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108222 <i>Speaking of, did anybody else catch Hannity’s contention earlier this week that McCain’s capture and imprisonment entitled him to cheat on his wife?</i> Par for the course. Did it also permit McCain to cheat on his current wife too? Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to. Speaking of, did anybody else catch Hannity’s contention earlier this week that McCain’s capture and imprisonment entitled him to cheat on his wife?

Par for the course. Did it also permit McCain to cheat on his current wife too? Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108221 Parthenon Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:14:40 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108221 <i>Speaking of, did anybody else catch Hannity’s contention earlier this week that McCain’s capture and imprisonment entitled him to cheat on his wife?</i> Read it on newshounds. Sometimes I wonder if <i>he</i> even believes what he's saying. Speaking of, did anybody else catch Hannity’s contention earlier this week that McCain’s capture and imprisonment entitled him to cheat on his wife?

Read it on newshounds. Sometimes I wonder if he even believes what he’s saying.

]]> By: SpiderJ http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108216 SpiderJ Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:46:44 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108216 I agree about Clark (and would have voted for him for President, had he made it as far as the nomination in 2004), but got worried when Obama denounced Clark's perfectly sensible criticism of McCain earlier this year--that is, that McCain's getting shot down in Vietnam and being held captive for five years did not outright qualify him to lead. Speaking of, did anybody else catch Hannity's contention earlier this week that McCain's capture and imprisonment entitled him to cheat on his wife? I agree about Clark (and would have voted for him for President, had he made it as far as the nomination in 2004), but got worried when Obama denounced Clark’s perfectly sensible criticism of McCain earlier this year–that is, that McCain’s getting shot down in Vietnam and being held captive for five years did not outright qualify him to lead.

Speaking of, did anybody else catch Hannity’s contention earlier this week that McCain’s capture and imprisonment entitled him to cheat on his wife?

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108190 Parthenon Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:16:37 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108190 My top three go... 1) Richardson 2) Clark 3) Kaine My bottom three go... 3, as in third-worst) Daschle 2) Bayh 1) Daschle again My top three go…

1) Richardson
2) Clark
3) Kaine

My bottom three go…

3, as in third-worst) Daschle
2) Bayh
1) Daschle again

]]> By: ed http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108169 ed Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:48:05 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108169 You and me both, OWill. Let's see, the theme of my campaign is "change." Hmmm....whom should I call? Tom Daschle! Clark, dammit! You and me both, OWill.

Let’s see, the theme of my campaign is “change.” Hmmm….whom should I call? Tom Daschle!

Clark, dammit!

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108162 Oliver Willis Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:16:50 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108162 I think its highly unlikely its going to be Daschle. And if it was him, I might jump out of a window. I think its highly unlikely its going to be Daschle. And if it was him, I might jump out of a window.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108159 Jay Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:46:52 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108159 Kos is already saying Biden is out: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/14/185633/744 He thinks it is going to be Tom Daschle. Daschle? Kos is already saying Biden is out:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/14/185633/744

He thinks it is going to be Tom Daschle. Daschle?

]]> By: MrGreyGhost http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108153 MrGreyGhost Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:20:28 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108153 Biden's ego would never allow him to play second fiddle. Biden’s ego would never allow him to play second fiddle.

]]> By: ed http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108141 ed Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:34:47 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108141 <i>I don’t see how he represents change any more than Biden does.</i> Biden's been in the Senate for a thousand years. He's an Inside the Beltway standard Meet the Press guest. Clark doesn't come from established political circles. Biden was also loud wrong on the Iraq Invasion, which really needs to count for something (since it's good policy and good politics--that's how Obama won the nomination in the first place). Clark got Iraq right. It would be nice to get on the same page there and hammer Bush/McCain with that. Personally, I can't stand Biden. I think he's a preening schmuck, eager to sway with the political winds du jour. He gets in some good one-liners, and is occasionally right, but on the whole, he nowhere close to Clark in terms of what each brings to the ticket. I don’t see how he represents change any more than Biden does.

Biden’s been in the Senate for a thousand years. He’s an Inside the Beltway standard Meet the Press guest. Clark doesn’t come from established political circles.

Biden was also loud wrong on the Iraq Invasion, which really needs to count for something (since it’s good policy and good politics–that’s how Obama won the nomination in the first place). Clark got Iraq right. It would be nice to get on the same page there and hammer Bush/McCain with that.

Personally, I can’t stand Biden. I think he’s a preening schmuck, eager to sway with the political winds du jour. He gets in some good one-liners, and is occasionally right, but on the whole, he nowhere close to Clark in terms of what each brings to the ticket.

]]> By: Thad http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108136 Thad Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:42:40 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108136 Biden's been my favorite pick pretty much since the beginning (at least, inasmuch as Richardson was unfortunately never a likely pick). August pretty much summed up my reasoning back in March: http://www.someguywithawebsite.com/blogarchive/week_2008_03_23.html#002490 Ed makes a good point about Biden not really fitting the "change" meme, but another way to look at that is that he balances the "lack of experience" smear. And while I like Clark and think he'd be a great pick, I don't see how he represents change any more than Biden does. Of course, what Clark DOES bring to the table is obvious: he's got better name recognition than Biden, has the foreign policy chops AND the military experience, and he's a friend of the Clintons. I think either one would be a great pick. Bayh would probably be the worst option. Biden’s been my favorite pick pretty much since the beginning (at least, inasmuch as Richardson was unfortunately never a likely pick). August pretty much summed up my reasoning back in March: http://www.someguywithawebsite.com/blogarchive/week_2008_03_23.html#002490

Ed makes a good point about Biden not really fitting the “change” meme, but another way to look at that is that he balances the “lack of experience” smear. And while I like Clark and think he’d be a great pick, I don’t see how he represents change any more than Biden does.

Of course, what Clark DOES bring to the table is obvious: he’s got better name recognition than Biden, has the foreign policy chops AND the military experience, and he’s a friend of the Clintons.

I think either one would be a great pick. Bayh would probably be the worst option.

]]> By: White Whale http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108134 White Whale Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:31:03 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108134 I am a huge Clark fan but I am alittle suprised that Richardson gets no mention. From a strategy standpoint, he fits into Obama's plan to take over the West, has foriegn policy chops and doesn't hog the spotlight. Evan Bayh would be the absolute worst pick because he is Republican-lite and has been promoting the war since the beggining. Hardly a change minded candidate. I think that Clark is the arrow that slays McCain. I am a huge Clark fan but I am alittle suprised that Richardson gets no mention. From a strategy standpoint, he fits into Obama’s plan to take over the West, has foriegn policy chops and doesn’t hog the spotlight. Evan Bayh would be the absolute worst pick because he is Republican-lite and has been promoting the war since the beggining. Hardly a change minded candidate. I think that Clark is the arrow that slays McCain.

]]> By: ed http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108131 ed Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:08:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108131 There's pretty much no one else who would boost the ticket half as much as Clark (if he wants it). Brian Schweitzer is second, but not a close second. I dunno who's third, but he or she is a distant third to BSchweitz's distant second. There’s pretty much no one else who would boost the ticket half as much as Clark (if he wants it). Brian Schweitzer is second, but not a close second. I dunno who’s third, but he or she is a distant third to BSchweitz’s distant second.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108129 Oliver Willis Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:59:48 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108129 I like Clark too but I don't see it happening. I like Clark too but I don’t see it happening.

]]> By: ed http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/14/joe/#comment-108124 ed Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:54:02 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=8484#comment-108124 Obama's about change. Biden is anything but change. Clark is he best pick. By far: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judah-freed/and-its-got-to-be-gen-wes_b_116812.html Obama’s about change. Biden is anything but change.

Clark is he best pick. By far:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judah-freed/and-its-got-to-be-gen-wes_b_116812.html

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