Well, the thing is the oil industry has made a multimillion dollar investment in John McCain and now they’re looking for a return on that.
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And yet… Obama STILL has taken more money from ExxonMobil employees than McCain.
But hey, why let FACTS get in the way of a snazzy nickname?
J.
Hahahaha. You so funny.
Donations from the oil industry to McCain skyrocketed since he flip flopped on his off shore drilling position. He really has shown that he is for sale.
Would it be impertinent to ask where you found your facts…er…FACTS, Mr. Tea?
Let us also ask whether those “ExxonMobil employees” have job titles like “geologist” or “IT manager” or if they’re more along the lines of “Senior Vice President”.
Open Secrets to the resecue:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/oil-industry-leans-toward-mcca.html
I understand that “Big Oil John” doesn’t have the same ring to it, but facts are facts (sorry if that’s a bit unpleasant for your tender ears) — you’re tarring a company whose employees have chosen, but about 20%, to support your “squeaky-clean” guy than the guy you don’t want to win.
But then again, since when have actual facts been important to your guy? He just said that he’s been warning about trouble in Georgia for some time now, but NOT ONE PERSON can find a mention of Georgia (hell, hardly mentions of Russia, for that matter) in his speeches.
Of course, there is the possibility of making this a self-fulfilling prophesy. If you keep calling McCain “Exxon John,” that might irritate enough Exxon employees to stop giving money to your guy (who, I’ll wager, won’t give back the 42 grand he’s already accepted from them) and start giving more to McCain.
I think we need a similar nickname for Senator Obama. Considering how thoroughly he is in the pocket for big labor (pledging to rescind the consent decree with the Teamsters, taking millions in support from the SEIU currently under investigation for several violations of financing law, including demanding “donations” for its PAC), maybe we can call him “Barack Obamafia?”
Hmm… needs work.
But as I said, facts are facts. ExxonMobil employees have given Obama six dollars for every five they’ve given McCain. “Exxon John” is a fraudulent term. And those who persist on using it in the face of those facts are nothing short of liars.
J.
Also remember that Oliver and company are once again engaging in the art of deception by saying that only oil companies are going to get tax breaks. Of course, McCain hasn’t proposed specific tax breaks for the oil industry as the left would want people to believe (and there are millions of idiotic Democratic drones out there lapping it up), but across the board corporate tax reductions that would also benefit….drum roll….THE WIND ENERGY INDUSTRY!
So why should they get additional tax credits (ie subsidies)?
Oh and let’s not forget that the energy bill in 2005 contained BILLIONS of dollars in subsidies for oil companies. John McCain voted against it. Barack Obama voted for it.
McCain/Exxon 2008!
Of course Mr Tea leaves out some significant facts from his screed:
Exxon donations to the RNC vs. DNC ratio 300:1
Exxon donations to Rep vs Dems: 79% to 21%
Adding Exxon’s PAC donations to McCain reverses the ratio to 11(McCain) to 7(Obama)
Individual workers love Obama. The oil industry and giant corporations love their lackeys: the republican party and John McCain.
Consider your claims debunked.
Debunked? I think not, midder. For one, you cited no sources.
But I’m feeling generous. I’ll grant that your numbers are probably correct.
That still doesn’t address the issue here.
Oliver uses the phrase “Exxon John.” That means that ExxonMobil is supporting John McCain so strongly, he’s practically their property.
By law, Exxon (nor any other corporation) can contribute directly to policital campaigns. Their employees can. And as I showed above, Exxon employees have given more to Obama than to McCain, by a sizable percentage.
If Oliver had used “Big Oil John” or “Exxon Republicans,” then you’d have a point. But that wasn’t snazzy enough, so Oliver had to overreach and specifically link one man with one company — in utter defiance of the actual facts at hand.
Laziness or dishonesty? I’ll let others be the judge. But the term Oliver chooses to use is demonstrably wrong on its face.
J.
Completely debunked.
Obama has received zero from Exxon’s PAC. It’s all gone to McCain. That is as close to official company donations as you can get. Donations from individuals are far different and have little to no bearing on official company policy. Furthermore, donations from individuals may have no relation to the company whatsoever. Joe Shmoe, Exxon employee, might give to Obama because he likes his healthcare plan. Mary Magoo might donate to McCain because she likes his Iraq position.
You haven’t and can’t demonstrate any proof that the majority of the rank and file employees of Exxon, or any other company, donate money to a political candidate because they feel it improves the bottom line of their employers. Ownership and upper management, whose compensation might be tied to profitability, might be a different case (which you haven’t made).
Are you trying to make a dishonest case? I’d say yes.
As for my sources, the $55,000 McCain PAC ind. donor that I compared to Obama’s $35,000 ind donor came from the Democratic Party website somewhere, I just don’t feel like looking it up again, it’s consistent with the data from where I got the rest of my numbers. The rest of the numbers come from your cite.
Shorter Midderpidge: It’s perfectly acceptable for rank and file employees to donate to Obama. It is not ok for executives to donate to McCain. Oh and it’s also ok to donate to Obama if you like his health-care plan, but not ok to donate to McCain if you like his energy plan.
Jay once again demonstrates his lack of reading comprehension.
ExxonMobil employee donations to McCain, as of June: $35,166.00.
ExxonMobil employee donations to Obama, as of June: $42,100.
But can’t let silly things like facts get in the way of a good
lieline, can we?J.
But can’t let silly things like facts get in the way of a good
lieline, can we?Boasting again, Mr. Tea?
JayTea takes great pride in his ignorance.
McCain has scored $55,000 in Exxon donations to Obama’s $35,000. That includes McCain scoring 100% of Exxon Corporations PAC donations to 0% for Obama. Also, the RNC has scored a whopping 300 times more than the DNC of Exxon’s individual and PAC donations.
But JayTea doesn’t let facts get in his way. He’s gonna parse those numbers to find one statistic to support his candidate and throw the rest away.