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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107763</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably, Zython, because I have no idea who Jack Thompson is. But John Edwards... everyone knows who he is. 

Just Googled him up, found him on Wikipedia... if you&#039;re talking about the Florida Christian, then all I can say is &quot;good god, what an asshole&quot; and wonder if he&#039;s ever thought about hooking up with the Phelps assholes. 

Preferably, on a sinking boat.

In shark-infested waters.

He doesn&#039;t strike me as an &quot;ambulance chaser,&quot; though. More of a crusading Religious Reich zealot who believes in using the courts to push his psycho agenda. I see they&#039;re trying to disbar him, and good for them.

But back to Edwards... a scummy personal-injury lawyer who finally got his comeuppance. Good riddance; couldn&#039;t have happened to a scummier guy.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably, Zython, because I have no idea who Jack Thompson is. But John Edwards&#8230; everyone knows who he is. </p>
<p>Just Googled him up, found him on Wikipedia&#8230; if you&#8217;re talking about the Florida Christian, then all I can say is &#8220;good god, what an asshole&#8221; and wonder if he&#8217;s ever thought about hooking up with the Phelps assholes. </p>
<p>Preferably, on a sinking boat.</p>
<p>In shark-infested waters.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t strike me as an &#8220;ambulance chaser,&#8221; though. More of a crusading Religious Reich zealot who believes in using the courts to push his psycho agenda. I see they&#8217;re trying to disbar him, and good for them.</p>
<p>But back to Edwards&#8230; a scummy personal-injury lawyer who finally got his comeuppance. Good riddance; couldn&#8217;t have happened to a scummier guy.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Suspect Device: The Blog &#187; Toast</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107736</link>
		<dc:creator>Suspect Device: The Blog &#187; Toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107731</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And I know I was not alone with that thought.&lt;/i&gt;

Hate to point this out, but those people were just humoring you.

Funny, I don&#039;t see you whining about ambulance chaser Jack Thompson. I wonder why that is? Hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And I know I was not alone with that thought.</i></p>
<p>Hate to point this out, but those people were just humoring you.</p>
<p>Funny, I don&#8217;t see you whining about ambulance chaser Jack Thompson. I wonder why that is? Hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I note you don&#039;t discuss the crux of my grievance with Edwards -- that the medical theory he won millions of dollars over has been proven to be bunk. And the harm he did in winning those suits lasts to this day. 

I call him &quot;ambulance-chaser&quot; because, to most people, that&#039;s a good slang term for &quot;disgustingly corrupt and vile personal-injury lawyer.&quot; That&#039;s what Edwards was, and it is what he is, at his core.

I&#039;m not proud of admitting this, but when Elizabeth Edwards was first diagnosed with cancer, my first thought was &quot;what doctor would dare treat her, considering who her husband is and what he&#039;s done to other doctors? That family has &#039;lawsuit&#039; written all over them!&quot; And I know I was not alone with that thought.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I note you don&#8217;t discuss the crux of my grievance with Edwards &#8212; that the medical theory he won millions of dollars over has been proven to be bunk. And the harm he did in winning those suits lasts to this day. </p>
<p>I call him &#8220;ambulance-chaser&#8221; because, to most people, that&#8217;s a good slang term for &#8220;disgustingly corrupt and vile personal-injury lawyer.&#8221; That&#8217;s what Edwards was, and it is what he is, at his core.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not proud of admitting this, but when Elizabeth Edwards was first diagnosed with cancer, my first thought was &#8220;what doctor would dare treat her, considering who her husband is and what he&#8217;s done to other doctors? That family has &#8216;lawsuit&#8217; written all over them!&#8221; And I know I was not alone with that thought.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill L.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107716</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot all about this thread.

1.)Edwards made a stupid mistake, but he was holding any high office and he isn&#039;t the nominee, so I don&#039;t get where the comparisons to Clinton come from.  

2.)The claims about Edwards ambulance chasing apparently are rooted in his career in the 80&#039;s involving multiple cases of cerebral palsy.  There was never any &quot;channeling.&quot;  To convey to the jury in one case how one doctor purportedly failed to heed the warnings from a fetal heart monitor, Edwards spoke as though he were the fetus (i.e. &quot;30 beats, everything&#039;s okay, 60 beats, starting to feel unwell, 80 beats, I need help&quot;).  That&#039;s not channeling.  You can call it manipulative, but it is a tactic as old as the hills.  You can argue that there is conflicting evidence on the issue of birth complications, fetal heart monitors, and doctor liability for cerebral palsy, if you like (though you need to be aware that the issue was less clear in 20  years ago).  None of that constitutes proof that Edwards was and ambulance chaser.

Everything else aside, though, this kills Edwards as a figure in Democratic politics.  No way they are going to let him speak at the Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot all about this thread.</p>
<p>1.)Edwards made a stupid mistake, but he was holding any high office and he isn&#8217;t the nominee, so I don&#8217;t get where the comparisons to Clinton come from.  </p>
<p>2.)The claims about Edwards ambulance chasing apparently are rooted in his career in the 80&#8217;s involving multiple cases of cerebral palsy.  There was never any &#8220;channeling.&#8221;  To convey to the jury in one case how one doctor purportedly failed to heed the warnings from a fetal heart monitor, Edwards spoke as though he were the fetus (i.e. &#8220;30 beats, everything&#8217;s okay, 60 beats, starting to feel unwell, 80 beats, I need help&#8221;).  That&#8217;s not channeling.  You can call it manipulative, but it is a tactic as old as the hills.  You can argue that there is conflicting evidence on the issue of birth complications, fetal heart monitors, and doctor liability for cerebral palsy, if you like (though you need to be aware that the issue was less clear in 20  years ago).  None of that constitutes proof that Edwards was and ambulance chaser.</p>
<p>Everything else aside, though, this kills Edwards as a figure in Democratic politics.  No way they are going to let him speak at the Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it really worth it? Was SHE really worth it? She doesn&#039;t seem like much in either the looks or the personality department. I could understand that he&#039;d be tempted if she were a young, viviacious, beautiful woman. She looks Camilla Parker Bowles. Yuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it really worth it? Was SHE really worth it? She doesn&#8217;t seem like much in either the looks or the personality department. I could understand that he&#8217;d be tempted if she were a young, viviacious, beautiful woman. She looks Camilla Parker Bowles. Yuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107672</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But that would lack the human touch, Quaker. It&#039;s kind of like how Oliver doesn&#039;t have a &quot;John McCain is old&quot; macro, or a &quot;Karl Rove&quot; macro. 

But thanks again. You helped me recover from a terrible mistake -- saying that Bill Clinton wasn&#039;t as big a scumbag as he was. That was truly mortifying. 

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that would lack the human touch, Quaker. It&#8217;s kind of like how Oliver doesn&#8217;t have a &#8220;John McCain is old&#8221; macro, or a &#8220;Karl Rove&#8221; macro. </p>
<p>But thanks again. You helped me recover from a terrible mistake &#8212; saying that Bill Clinton wasn&#8217;t as big a scumbag as he was. That was truly mortifying. </p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So yes, Quaker, I was wrong and I apologize.&lt;/em&gt;

A keyboard macro would save time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So yes, Quaker, I was wrong and I apologize.</em></p>
<p>A keyboard macro would save time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107669</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was all set to apologize, Quaker, and thank you for correcting me, but then I realized I can&#039;t take your word on things. So I double-checked.

Lewinsky left her internship in November 1994, began her liaisons with Clinton in November 1995, and was transferred from the White House to the Pentagon in April 1996. 

So yes, Quaker, I was wrong and I apologize. Clinton did, indeed, pork someone on his payroll, just like John Edwards. I hereby withdraw my saying &quot;at least Clinton wasn&#039;t that bad&quot; and make it &quot;at least Clinton didn&#039;t start porking her until after she was an employee, unlike Edwards who apparently put his mistress on the payroll.&quot;

That&#039;s such an improvement. Thanks, Quaker.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was all set to apologize, Quaker, and thank you for correcting me, but then I realized I can&#8217;t take your word on things. So I double-checked.</p>
<p>Lewinsky left her internship in November 1994, began her liaisons with Clinton in November 1995, and was transferred from the White House to the Pentagon in April 1996. </p>
<p>So yes, Quaker, I was wrong and I apologize. Clinton did, indeed, pork someone on his payroll, just like John Edwards. I hereby withdraw my saying &#8220;at least Clinton wasn&#8217;t that bad&#8221; and make it &#8220;at least Clinton didn&#8217;t start porking her until after she was an employee, unlike Edwards who apparently put his mistress on the payroll.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s such an improvement. Thanks, Quaker.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107664</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;At least Clinton was using an unpaid intern as a human humidor. &lt;/em&gt;

Once again, Mr. Tea bungles even the most basic facts. Ms. Lewinsky was not a White House intern at the time of her intimacies with Mr. Clinton. She was a Pentagon employee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>At least Clinton was using an unpaid intern as a human humidor. </em></p>
<p>Once again, Mr. Tea bungles even the most basic facts. Ms. Lewinsky was not a White House intern at the time of her intimacies with Mr. Clinton. She was a Pentagon employee.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107656</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Edward&#039;s interview with Bob Woodruff, Bob has him about holding a baby for a picture.  Edwards answered (paraphrasing) &quot;I was not holding that baby for a picture&quot;.  That could mean, in a lawyer&#039;s mind, that he was holding a baby, he just wasn&#039;t holding it for a picture.  Edwards is still lying through he teeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Edward&#8217;s interview with Bob Woodruff, Bob has him about holding a baby for a picture.  Edwards answered (paraphrasing) &#8220;I was not holding that baby for a picture&#8221;.  That could mean, in a lawyer&#8217;s mind, that he was holding a baby, he just wasn&#8217;t holding it for a picture.  Edwards is still lying through he teeth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107653</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill L, wrong case. I&#039;ve got a link to the NY Times story that talks about the &quot;channeling,&quot; but it&#039;s held up in moderation.

From the opening of the NYT story:

&lt;blockquote&gt;n 1985, a 31-year-old North Carolina lawyer named John Edwards stood before a jury and channeled the words of an unborn baby girl. 

Referring to an hour-by-hour record of a fetal heartbeat monitor, Mr. Edwards told the jury: &quot;She said at 3, `I&#039;m fine.&#039; She said at 4, `I&#039;m having a little trouble, but I&#039;m doing O.K.&#039; Five, she said, `I&#039;m having problems.&#039; At 5:30, she said, `I need out.&#039; &quot;

But the obstetrician, he argued in an artful blend of science and passion, failed to heed the call. By waiting 90 more minutes to perform a breech delivery, rather than immediately performing a Caesarean section, Mr. Edwards said, the doctor permanently damaged the girl&#039;s brain. 

&quot;She speaks to you through me,&quot; the lawyer went on in his closing argument. &quot;And I have to tell you right now — I didn&#039;t plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She&#039;s inside me, and she&#039;s talking to you.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NOT the pool drain case, for the record, but one of the numerous cerebral palsy cases where Edwards put forth his theory (since statistically discredited) that CP was often caused by doctors choosing to avoid C-sections and insisting on women giving birth vaginally. His little hobby there netted him millions, and sent malpractice insurance rates for obstetricians through the roof in North Carolina.

Nice smokescreen there, Bill. Pity it ain&#039;t true. But it was a darned good effort.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill L, wrong case. I&#8217;ve got a link to the NY Times story that talks about the &#8220;channeling,&#8221; but it&#8217;s held up in moderation.</p>
<p>From the opening of the NYT story:</p>
<blockquote><p>n 1985, a 31-year-old North Carolina lawyer named John Edwards stood before a jury and channeled the words of an unborn baby girl. </p>
<p>Referring to an hour-by-hour record of a fetal heartbeat monitor, Mr. Edwards told the jury: &#8220;She said at 3, `I&#8217;m fine.&#8217; She said at 4, `I&#8217;m having a little trouble, but I&#8217;m doing O.K.&#8217; Five, she said, `I&#8217;m having problems.&#8217; At 5:30, she said, `I need out.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>But the obstetrician, he argued in an artful blend of science and passion, failed to heed the call. By waiting 90 more minutes to perform a breech delivery, rather than immediately performing a Caesarean section, Mr. Edwards said, the doctor permanently damaged the girl&#8217;s brain. </p>
<p>&#8220;She speaks to you through me,&#8221; the lawyer went on in his closing argument. &#8220;And I have to tell you right now — I didn&#8217;t plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She&#8217;s inside me, and she&#8217;s talking to you.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>NOT the pool drain case, for the record, but one of the numerous cerebral palsy cases where Edwards put forth his theory (since statistically discredited) that CP was often caused by doctors choosing to avoid C-sections and insisting on women giving birth vaginally. His little hobby there netted him millions, and sent malpractice insurance rates for obstetricians through the roof in North Carolina.</p>
<p>Nice smokescreen there, Bill. Pity it ain&#8217;t true. But it was a darned good effort.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107652</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real winner here has to be the National Enquirer. Once again (like in the OJ Simpson case and the Lewinsky scandal) they beat the snot out of the mainstream media, and were proven right in the end.

And Parthenon, I was mistaken on one detail. The child whose voice he channeled was crippled with cerebral palsy, not dead. Guess I got him mixed up with John Edward.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/31/politics/campaign/31EDWA.html?ex=1390885200&amp;en=4fb97ac07a96f186&amp;ei=5007&amp;partner=USERLAND

(Hope that link works...)

He literally made his millions suing hospitals and doctors over kids born with cerebral palsy, saying that it was because they didn&#039;t perform caesarean sections. And studies since then have shown that in the vast majority of cases, there&#039;s very little correlation between caesarean/vaginal birth and cerebral palsy. But that didn&#039;t stop Edwards, who had his medical theory and used it to make himself a tidy fortune -- and drove the malpractice insurance rates into the stratosphere for North Carolina obstetricians.

I am thrilled that they are, I hope, finally out of public life.

As far as her health goes, I feel great sympathy for her. As I do for Ted Kennedy and Robert Novak, just to name two other politically prominent people suffering grave health issues. And I intend to be at least marginally classier than a lot of folks were on the passings of Tony Snow and Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real winner here has to be the National Enquirer. Once again (like in the OJ Simpson case and the Lewinsky scandal) they beat the snot out of the mainstream media, and were proven right in the end.</p>
<p>And Parthenon, I was mistaken on one detail. The child whose voice he channeled was crippled with cerebral palsy, not dead. Guess I got him mixed up with John Edward.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/31/politics/campaign/31EDWA.html?ex=1390885200&amp;en=4fb97ac07a96f186&amp;ei=5007&amp;partner=USERLAND" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/31/politics/campaign/31EDWA.html?ex=1390885200&amp;en=4fb97ac07a96f186&amp;ei=5007&amp;partner=USERLAND</a></p>
<p>(Hope that link works&#8230;)</p>
<p>He literally made his millions suing hospitals and doctors over kids born with cerebral palsy, saying that it was because they didn&#8217;t perform caesarean sections. And studies since then have shown that in the vast majority of cases, there&#8217;s very little correlation between caesarean/vaginal birth and cerebral palsy. But that didn&#8217;t stop Edwards, who had his medical theory and used it to make himself a tidy fortune &#8212; and drove the malpractice insurance rates into the stratosphere for North Carolina obstetricians.</p>
<p>I am thrilled that they are, I hope, finally out of public life.</p>
<p>As far as her health goes, I feel great sympathy for her. As I do for Ted Kennedy and Robert Novak, just to name two other politically prominent people suffering grave health issues. And I intend to be at least marginally classier than a lot of folks were on the passings of Tony Snow and Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;channeling,&quot; as Jay Tea would frame it, happened during a trial against a Minneapolis Golf Club whose defective pool drain in their children&#039;s pool effectively disemboweled a young girl.  Edwards won a 25 million dollar judgment for the family, a record for the state (all easily Googled and verified).

Yeah, suing a negligent country club over the horrific death of a 6 year old, what a disgusting jerk!

Don&#039;t bother waiting on that ambulance chaser evidence Parthenon, it doesn&#039;t exist.  Jay Tea and the rest of the winger set simply like to throw out that smear whenever they want to knock trial lawyers, which is a favorite hobby of corporate America in their never ending quest to   erase &quot;liability&quot; from the English language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;channeling,&#8221; as Jay Tea would frame it, happened during a trial against a Minneapolis Golf Club whose defective pool drain in their children&#8217;s pool effectively disemboweled a young girl.  Edwards won a 25 million dollar judgment for the family, a record for the state (all easily Googled and verified).</p>
<p>Yeah, suing a negligent country club over the horrific death of a 6 year old, what a disgusting jerk!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother waiting on that ambulance chaser evidence Parthenon, it doesn&#8217;t exist.  Jay Tea and the rest of the winger set simply like to throw out that smear whenever they want to knock trial lawyers, which is a favorite hobby of corporate America in their never ending quest to   erase &#8220;liability&#8221; from the English language.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107647</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the Trad Med is patting themselves on the back for getting the story out? Douchebags..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26099046/

&lt;blockquote&gt;Reporters found Edwards&#039; affair tough to prove
AP&#039;s approach: &#039;Better to get it right even if we couldn&#039;t get it first&#039;


...But a sexual affair can have just two people who know the truth. Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.

That made it difficult to prove — and to print — the rumors that John Edwards had cheated on his seriously ill wife while running for president. Reporters were left to poke around the edges of a potentially career-ending scandal in search of an opening.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Great. You know what wouldn&#039;t be that hard to prove? High crimes and misdemeanors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the Trad Med is patting themselves on the back for getting the story out? Douchebags..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26099046/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26099046/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Reporters found Edwards&#8217; affair tough to prove<br />
AP&#8217;s approach: &#8216;Better to get it right even if we couldn&#8217;t get it first&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8230;But a sexual affair can have just two people who know the truth. Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.</p>
<p>That made it difficult to prove — and to print — the rumors that John Edwards had cheated on his seriously ill wife while running for president. Reporters were left to poke around the edges of a potentially career-ending scandal in search of an opening.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Great. You know what wouldn&#8217;t be that hard to prove? High crimes and misdemeanors.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107645</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - would you mind throwing up a credible link to some information on Edwards&#039; vampiric legal career? I&#039;m as against marital infidelity as the next guy, and I&#039;ve heard him derided as an &#039;ambulance chaser&#039; probably hundreds of times, but all I can find on his lawyering is pretty laudatory, going after people that deserved it. I haven&#039;t seen, as yet, a single malpractice suit he pursued that wasn&#039;t legitimate. 

Save a guy the research?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; would you mind throwing up a credible link to some information on Edwards&#8217; vampiric legal career? I&#8217;m as against marital infidelity as the next guy, and I&#8217;ve heard him derided as an &#8216;ambulance chaser&#8217; probably hundreds of times, but all I can find on his lawyering is pretty laudatory, going after people that deserved it. I haven&#8217;t seen, as yet, a single malpractice suit he pursued that wasn&#8217;t legitimate. </p>
<p>Save a guy the research?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right there with ya. Apparently, one of the requirements for &quot;politician&#039;s wife&quot; is &quot;doormat.&quot; Clinton, Edwards, Vitter... the list goes on and on and on.

The only exceptions I can recall is Jim McGreevey&#039;s wife and Arianna Huffington... but they kinda didn&#039;t have much choice when their hubbies came out as gay.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right there with ya. Apparently, one of the requirements for &#8220;politician&#8217;s wife&#8221; is &#8220;doormat.&#8221; Clinton, Edwards, Vitter&#8230; the list goes on and on and on.</p>
<p>The only exceptions I can recall is Jim McGreevey&#8217;s wife and Arianna Huffington&#8230; but they kinda didn&#8217;t have much choice when their hubbies came out as gay.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107632</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;he does not have his wife sitting painfully by his side as he makes his admission.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m glad to hear that. I hate that shit. Hopefully, she was at home, throwing his shit out on the lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>he does not have his wife sitting painfully by his side as he makes his admission.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear that. I hate that shit. Hopefully, she was at home, throwing his shit out on the lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107613</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I think this president has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Senator John Edwards, 1999, on the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

At least Clinton was using an unpaid intern as a human humidor. Edwards had his mistress on the payroll.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think this president has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Senator John Edwards, 1999, on the Monica Lewinsky scandal.</p>
<p>At least Clinton was using an unpaid intern as a human humidor. Edwards had his mistress on the payroll.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/08/john-edwards-admits-affair-with-rielle-hunter/#comment-107612</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I&#039;m enjoying John Edwards entirely-self-inflicted misery, I&#039;m enjoying even more the comeuppance certain folks and organizations are suffering. As noted above, as recently as May Oliver was touting Edwards as a good Veep candidate. The LA Times imposed a blackout on the story. And Daily Kos banned one of its authors for having the effrontery to bring it up.

As for those comparing Edwards&#039; actions with McCain&#039;s, kindly note that the best source of info on McCain&#039;s conduct regarding his first marriage is John McCain himself. He&#039;s personally recounted his failings, at length, and expressed his regrets and admitted his misdeeds. 

Also, to all those who say that the Edwards story should be a private matter, strictly within his family, note that the first Mrs. McCain maintains a friendship with both Senator and the present Mrs. McCain, has refused to speak out against her ex-husband, and has expressed support for his candidacy. If she doesn&#039;t choose to make an issue about how the marriage dissolved almost 30 years ago, who the hell else has the right?

But back to the core issue here: Edwards cheated on his wife, lied about it repeatedly, paid his mistress with campaign funds, and then only confessed when his guilt was proven beyond a doubt. He fooled a lot of people, and it was only blind luck that he has twice been denied positions of great power. 

Good riddance, scumbag. Go back to suing obstetricians and gynecologists out of business. At least that way you can&#039;t fuck up more than a single state. 

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I&#8217;m enjoying John Edwards entirely-self-inflicted misery, I&#8217;m enjoying even more the comeuppance certain folks and organizations are suffering. As noted above, as recently as May Oliver was touting Edwards as a good Veep candidate. The LA Times imposed a blackout on the story. And Daily Kos banned one of its authors for having the effrontery to bring it up.</p>
<p>As for those comparing Edwards&#8217; actions with McCain&#8217;s, kindly note that the best source of info on McCain&#8217;s conduct regarding his first marriage is John McCain himself. He&#8217;s personally recounted his failings, at length, and expressed his regrets and admitted his misdeeds. </p>
<p>Also, to all those who say that the Edwards story should be a private matter, strictly within his family, note that the first Mrs. McCain maintains a friendship with both Senator and the present Mrs. McCain, has refused to speak out against her ex-husband, and has expressed support for his candidacy. If she doesn&#8217;t choose to make an issue about how the marriage dissolved almost 30 years ago, who the hell else has the right?</p>
<p>But back to the core issue here: Edwards cheated on his wife, lied about it repeatedly, paid his mistress with campaign funds, and then only confessed when his guilt was proven beyond a doubt. He fooled a lot of people, and it was only blind luck that he has twice been denied positions of great power. </p>
<p>Good riddance, scumbag. Go back to suing obstetricians and gynecologists out of business. At least that way you can&#8217;t fuck up more than a single state. </p>
<p>J.</p>
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