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And just when I credited your blog for having a great diversity of content, you have 5 or 6 McCain post in a row. You had to go and do that the same week I’m putting out this list?
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And just as I’m giving you credit for content with great diversity, you had to post 5 or 6 McCain post in a row. You just had to do this the same week I’m releasin this list.
But we CAN believe that Barry’s plan for us all to inflate our tires properly and get tune-ups will solve all of America’s energy problems!
Grow up.
The real reason the wingnuts are so annoyed by Obama’s tire-gauge suggestion is that it requires them to think in terms of the long term and the bigger picture, when they’d much rather feel good about themselves right now.
Spider J,
Time’s attempt to bail out Barry has already been debunked –
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/08/021171.php
Wow, first Pam Gellar and now Hindrocket? You guys sure know how to pick ‘em.
A “debunking” article that uses phrases like “I’m pretty sure this is what he was referring to” is lazy, but at least it’s honest about being lazy.
The tire inflation statement and its right-wing ridicule just speaks to the immaturity of Bush Republicans, whose entire energy policy is “well, we’ll just get more oil.”
Keeping your car in working order takes effort, and requires you to understand that not everything in life is designed to be catered to your pampered ass. The plus side is that you use the dwindling energy resources more sparingly.
If Obama issued a statement that regular brushing and flossing would prevent tooth decay, Bush Republicans would simply scoff and tell Americans that Obama wants to take away their candy, and that you shouldn’t worry about tooth decay–just get caps and bridges as the need arises.
No the problem with Barry’s lame tire inflation solution is that most people already keep their tires inflated. It’s the perfect “let them eat cake” statement and he’s being called on it.
It’s the perfect “let them eat cake” statement
I think you’re mixing up your talking points. This isn’t about his being “elitist,” remember, this is supposed to be about his being “unserious.”
A proper “let them eat cake” statement is something like:
“Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality, and so many of the people in the arenas here, you know, were underprivileged anyway. This is working very well for them.” – Barbara Bush, referring to Katrina refugees
I forgot about the part where Barbara Bush was running for office. But if you’re implying that candidate’s spouses are fair game…
mccann… oh sorry, its william today I guess… Simple way to debunk it then. How much is it projected that offshore drilling will lower the cost of gasoline, and how are those figures arrived at? I still don’t get why oil companies would be willing to significantly lower prices if we’re basically just giving them greater supply with no other conditions that benefit us at all (say we lock the price of gas at $3.75 a gallon for 5 years or something) but if that is your argument then what numbers are we even dealing with then? How much would we stand to gain if we allow the offshore drilling that its so obviously a better solution than just keeping our cars better maintained?
I’m seriously asking, I’ve never seen any kind of number on this that quantifies the net benefit (forget when we might eventually see it) and explains why increasing supply would have a better effect than lessening demand.
Incidentally, McCain responded to the “Tire Gaffe” as Powerline wants to call it for whatever reason by agreeing it was a good idea, but saying it wasn’t enough to get us off foregn oil. Are we to believe that offshore drilling will put a significant dent in our foreign oil consumption with no other measures taken to improve our fuel effeciency? If so, I ask again, what are the numbers that show this?
There… are numbers aren’t there? I mean you and they wouldnt be throwing this shit around if you didnt have anything to back it up, would you?
Speaking of this tire gauge “nontroversy,” what do you think of this image the RNC has up on their wesbite?
http://www.gop.com/images/topstory/080408_guage.jpg
In December 1966, when John McCain requested his first combat assignment in Vietnam, Barack Obama turned 5 years old and was enjoying the freedoms a child should enjoy.
As Obama turned 7, McCain had survived a burning jet fire on the USS Forrestal and had just flown his 23rd bombing mission over communist North Vietnam.
In 1973, as Obama reached age 12, McCain was finally released from a prisoner-of-war camp in the Hanoi Hilton.
At age 15, when Obama was still in high school, McCain became the commanding officer of a Naval Training Squadron in Florida. He turned a poorly managed military unit into a distinguished, combat-ready team.
When Obama reached the legal age of 21 and was experimenting with pot and cocaine, McCain declined an admiral promotion and ran for and was elected to Congress.
By 1987, Obama was a young man of 25 and McCain had assumed the office of senator from Arizona (after a successful four-year tour in the U.S. House of Representatives).
At age 36, Obama looked on as Sen. McCain was named one of Time magazine’s 25 most influential people in America.
Whom do we choose as our next leader? Do we choose a man with proven military and political achievements, or a man with little experience other than a stint as a community leader and junior senator? Decisions, decisions!
And yet another name change for our friend the troll. Complete with an incomprehensible comment that points out nothing so much as how damn much older McCain is than Obama, and how that seems to be a primary selling point. Thing is though, mccannasty, you still have no answer to my question, do you? Even a general estimate of the benefit we’ll see from offshore drilling would do so much to help your argument, but you’ll be goddammed if you’ll have anything to do with facts, wont you?
Bush Republicans would simply scoff and tell Americans that Obama wants to take away their candy*, and that you shouldn’t worry about tooth decay–just get caps and bridges as the need arises.
*Brought to you by the High Fructose Corn Syrup lobby.
When Obama reached the legal age of 21 and was experimenting with pot and cocaine, McCain declined an admiral promotion and ran for and was elected to Congress.
First of all, that’s a lie.
Second, I would like to thank you for pointing out (again) how old and tired Senator McCain is and how it’s time for a new generation in DC.
Oh, also, you misspelled “seven year career as state legislator” as “stint as a community leader.” Easy mistake I’m sure, the letters are right next to each other.
Also, the fuck is a “successful four year tour” in the house of representitives? Like he was drafted or something, and since he survived he was entitled to become a senator or something?
Also, “the legal age of 21″ means what exactly in reference to drugs, which are, in fact, illegal? What nonsense are you actually trying to spread here?
Also, get fucked.
There… are numbers aren’t there? I mean you and they wouldnt be throwing this shit around if you didnt have anything to back it up, would you?
Because shut up, that’s why!
It’s the perfect “let them eat cake” statement
I don’t think that expression means what you think it means.
As an Irishman, McCann’s various pseudonyms are starting to depress me. For goodness sakes McCann, use a different family name prefix. May I suggest the Nordic suffix ‘son?’
So what is that then, 25 years of selling little bits of himself to lobbyists and being a Washington insider? McCain has easily shown through the primary and now that he is willing to sell his principle, ideals, and positions for votes and campaign contributions. No thanks.
Now McCain has gone from mocking tire inflation to embracing it. Dumbass.
Let’s do the windfall profit tax rebate math together! Every taxpayer gets $1000 X 150,000,000 tax payers = $150,000,000,000.
Big Oil (I hate them) 08 annual profits = 160,000,000,000
Taxes due (currently 46%, love the gov) = 76,000,000,000
After tax profit = 84,000,000,000
Windfall Profit Tax (rebate)= 150,000,000,000
Oil companies Net = – 66,000,000,000
Let’s put the oil companies out of business and plug in our cars to the grid. Oh yeah, let’s also consider the gas tax revenue given over to the government by you and me: It looks something like this:
With BP, Exxon-Mobil, and Shell reporting record profits, the Tax Foundation reminds us in its latest Fiscal Fact that the biggest beneficiaries of gasoline sales are federal and state governments, not the oil industry:
High gas prices and strong oil company earnings have generated a rash of new tax proposals in recent months. Some lawmakers have called for new “windfall profits” taxes—similar to the one signed into federal law in 1980 by President Jimmy Carter—that would tax the profits of major oil companies at a rate of 50%. Meanwhile, many commentators have voiced support for the idea of increasing gas taxes to keep the price of gasoline at post-Katrina highs, thereby reducing gas consumption. However, often ignored in this debate is the fact that oil industry profits are highly cyclical, making them just as prone to “busts” as to “booms.” Additionally, tax collections on the production and import of gasoline by state and federal governments are already near historic highs. In fact, in recent decades governments have collected far more revenue from gasoline taxes than the largest U.S. oil companies have collectively earned in domestic profits….
[F]ederal and state taxes on gasoline production and imports have been climbing steadily since the late 1970s and now total roughly $58.4 billion. Due in part to substantial hikes in the federal gasoline excise tax in 1983, 1990, and 1993, annual tax revenues have continued to grow. Since 1977, governments collected more than $1.34 trillion, after adjusting for inflation, in gasoline tax revenues—more than twice the amount of domestic profits earned by major U.S. oil companies during the same period:
By 1987, Obama was a young man of 25 and McCain had assumed the office of senator from Arizona (after a successful four-year tour in the U.S. House of Representatives).
By 1987, Obama was a young man of 25 and McCain had had a successful run pressuring regulators to go easy on his good friend and campaign contributor Charles Keating, which enabled Keating to pull off the Lincoln Savings & Loan ripoff, one of largest of the savings-and-loan swindles of the S&L implosion, costing thousands of elderly investors at his bank their life savings and costing taxpayers millions via the Resolution Trust Corporation.
…fixed it for ya.
Whom do we choose as our next leader? Do we choose a man with proven military and political achievements, or a man with little experience other than a stint as a community leader and junior senator? Decisions, decisions!
Translation: “Fuck anyone under 65!” That’s the GOP for ya.
Interesting how the Republicans are trying to poke fun at Obama for mentioning increased fuel efficiency from proper tiree inflation. It’s a similar tactic to the purple heart bandaids at the 2004 RNC.
All from the same geniuses who directed the populace to protect themselves from terrorists by purchasing duct tape and polyethylene sheets.
Its funny, but the whole tire inflation thing came in response to an audience member’s question after Obama outlined his energy plan. The “What can I do?” question. I know having an audience is a strange thing to McCain. But just as strange to him, apparently, is the promotion of constructive individual action and help in a national crisis.
Obama’s position is what can we all do.
McCain’s position is what can corporate America.
One is everyone pulling together to get us out of a jam.
The other is increasing profits for an industry, while, at best, postponing the problem.
Seriously, my family minivan got a wonderful 17/23 mpg. By changing the way I drive I stretch that to 22/30 mpg. I cut at least 25% off my utilities by lowering the temp on the hot water heater, using cfl light bulbs, hanging most laundry out to dry, washing in cold instead of hot, running appliances at night instead of day (off-peak). All things that don’t inconvenience me, and in many ways benefit me beyond saving me a few bucks.
I’ve slowed down on the road, I don’t feel stressed when driving, I relax. I don’t get pissed off or feel competetive when people pass me on the road. I’ve lost 10 pounds because I walk more.
So, yes, that kind of conservation mind set can have a big impact on an individual basis, and a large impact on a cumulative basis. So mock away John McCain.
Whom do we choose as our next leader? Do we choose a man with proven military and political achievements-
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What – Wrecking 3 planes and languishing in a POW camp makes someone a foreign policy expert? How about the only member of the Keating Five to keep his taxpayer-funded job probably makes McCain a economic policy wiz as well, right?
william, Aug 6th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
But we CAN believe that Barry’s plan for us all to inflate our tires properly and get tune-ups will solve all of America’s energy problems!
Almost as much as we can believe that Johnathon Sidney McCain the Third‘s plan for us all to turn the lights off five minutes earlier every night will solve all of america’s energy problems! Right?
You shouldn’t really point out and mock stuff like this when the candidate you support has made strikingly similar statements of his own. Sometimes some people look at that sort of behavior as a bit hypocritical…
Hmm… according to the most recent stories, Obama has taken more money from ExxonMobil employees than McCain. McCain still has more money from the oil industry as a whole, but not from ExxonMobil. Will Oliver issue a correction on this one?
Hell, I’m still waiting for him to correct his prior piece when it turned out the big donors he cited as McCain donors turned out to have been Hillary Clinton/Rudy Giuliani donors, and NOT McCain donors.
J.
Almost as much as we can believe that Johnathon Sidney McCain the Third’s plan for us all to turn the lights off five minutes earlier every night will solve all of america’s energy problems! Right?
Well, sure, he’ll just pass a law that mandates everyone go to bed at 7:30, like him.
Problem solved.
Will Oliver issue a correction on this one?
Would you feel better if it was just “Oil Industry-McCain ’08?” I mean, four times Obama’s industry donations and all…
Yeah, Parthenon, I would. “Fake but accurate” is for lying scumbags. Or lazy dips who prefer a catchy phrase over reality.
It also shows that it’s not so clear-cut. Certain areas give more to certain candidates. You wanna have some real fun, take a look at the ratio of donations between Obama and McCain from unions, and some of the promises Obama’s made the unions… such as backing the obscenely-misnamed “Employee Free Choice Act” which will strip workers of the ability to hold secret ballots for unionizing, and ending the consent agreement that has had the government keeping an eye on the Teamsters to keep the mob out.
On that front, can we put out a “Mafia/Obama ’08″ bumper sticker? Stick a picture of Obama next to Tony Soprano?
J.
What’s clear from this, to me, is that there is too much money in the political system and there are too many accusations – made too easily, with too little information – of impropriety.
I’d disagree, Parthenon. I think there’s too many rules governing money in politics. Here’s my idea: individuals can donate as much as they like to the candidates of their choice — but reporting has to be absolutely transparent and even more timely. Hell, I’d say within a week or two, instead of once a month.
I’ve also seen discussions of requiring candidates to wear NASCAR-style jackets emblazoned with the names of their sponsors that they have to wear at all campaign events.
The main thing all the rules governing money in politics do is encourage folks to find new and sneakier ways of giving to their favorite causes. So I say “screw it.”
If a candidate wants to sell himself or herself to some special interest, then let ‘em. Just make damned sure that the voters know about it before election day.
Let’s get the lawyers and accountants out of politics, and instead get the tailors in on the act.
J.