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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/07/31/racial-overtones-in-the-celeb-ad/#comment-107013</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It doesn’t bother you that McCain employs the same guy that created the infamous Harold Ford ad? &lt;/i&gt;

You know, I thought it had a familiar smell. However I agree with Oliver. Ain&#039;t no &quot;there&quot; there, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It doesn’t bother you that McCain employs the same guy that created the infamous Harold Ford ad? </i></p>
<p>You know, I thought it had a familiar smell. However I agree with Oliver. Ain&#8217;t no &#8220;there&#8221; there, either.</p>
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		<title>By: revenantive</title>
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		<dc:creator>revenantive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon Stewart laid the smack down on The Daily Show last night.  

Apparently the Hilton&#039;s had already doled out $4600 to the McCain campaign before this commercial hit the air.

Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you...

John McCain&#039;s campaign is just trolling the pond for anything at this point.  I hope his negative attacks continue because I believe it just strengthens Barck Obama&#039;s position.

McCain started going heavy negative in his ads a couple of weeks ago, and he&#039;s lost a percentage point or two in the polls...coincidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon Stewart laid the smack down on The Daily Show last night.  </p>
<p>Apparently the Hilton&#8217;s had already doled out $4600 to the McCain campaign before this commercial hit the air.</p>
<p>Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you&#8230;</p>
<p>John McCain&#8217;s campaign is just trolling the pond for anything at this point.  I hope his negative attacks continue because I believe it just strengthens Barck Obama&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>McCain started going heavy negative in his ads a couple of weeks ago, and he&#8217;s lost a percentage point or two in the polls&#8230;coincidence?</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s not about race, it’s about trying to say that with Obama there’s no “there” there.&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly. &#039;He&#039;s an empty suit, like these two empty skirts.&#039; Even had they wanted to use a useless black celebrity, they couldn&#039;t have found a media walking joke on the level of Britney and Paris. 

I repeat, imagine a world where these ads talked about, you know, government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s not about race, it’s about trying to say that with Obama there’s no “there” there.</i></p>
<p>Exactly. &#8216;He&#8217;s an empty suit, like these two empty skirts.&#8217; Even had they wanted to use a useless black celebrity, they couldn&#8217;t have found a media walking joke on the level of Britney and Paris. </p>
<p>I repeat, imagine a world where these ads talked about, you know, government.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s as important they were young white women as they are two of the most vapid and worthy-of-ridicule celebrities on the scene at the moment. You can dislike Oprah&#039;s politics or business practice, but you can&#039;t say she&#039;s stupid (building a media empire takes brains). In that list of ten, you can&#039;t as easily skewer any of them as you can Britney or Paris--the prototypical rich dumb blondes.

It&#039;s not about race, it&#039;s about trying to say that with Obama there&#039;s no &quot;there&quot; there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as important they were young white women as they are two of the most vapid and worthy-of-ridicule celebrities on the scene at the moment. You can dislike Oprah&#8217;s politics or business practice, but you can&#8217;t say she&#8217;s stupid (building a media empire takes brains). In that list of ten, you can&#8217;t as easily skewer any of them as you can Britney or Paris&#8211;the prototypical rich dumb blondes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about race, it&#8217;s about trying to say that with Obama there&#8217;s no &#8220;there&#8221; there.</p>
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		<title>By: PTCruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>PTCruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lifted the following from Spin Cycle published online at Newsday.com:

&quot;We just got off a conference call with Camp McCain, defending their new ad comparing Barack Obama to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

&quot;They said they thought the ad was legitimate because Obama is a big celebrity (which happens to be what John McCain was, too, when he came home from Vietnam and started to build his political career), and Britney and Paris were Number 2 and 3.

&quot;The problem: Anyone with even a vague sense of pop culture knows that Britney and Paris are yesterday&#039;s news. Here&#039;s a link to Forbes&#039; Celebrity 100. Paris and Britney don&#039;t even make the list any more.

&quot;Instead, the top 10, in order: Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods, Angelina Jolie, Beyonce Knowles, David Beckham, Johnny Depp, Jay-Z, The Police, JK Rowling, Brad Pitt.

&quot;So, they didn&#039;t pick other big celebrities, who were either men, or black, or married.

&quot;What they picked was two sexually available white women.

&quot;But it must have been a coincidence, because we know John McCain wants to run an elevated campaign focusing on the serious issues that America faces.&quot;


My own view is that the ad was not just about race but it was, in part, about race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lifted the following from Spin Cycle published online at Newsday.com:</p>
<p>&#8220;We just got off a conference call with Camp McCain, defending their new ad comparing Barack Obama to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.</p>
<p>&#8220;They said they thought the ad was legitimate because Obama is a big celebrity (which happens to be what John McCain was, too, when he came home from Vietnam and started to build his political career), and Britney and Paris were Number 2 and 3.</p>
<p>&#8220;The problem: Anyone with even a vague sense of pop culture knows that Britney and Paris are yesterday&#8217;s news. Here&#8217;s a link to Forbes&#8217; Celebrity 100. Paris and Britney don&#8217;t even make the list any more.</p>
<p>&#8220;Instead, the top 10, in order: Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods, Angelina Jolie, Beyonce Knowles, David Beckham, Johnny Depp, Jay-Z, The Police, JK Rowling, Brad Pitt.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, they didn&#8217;t pick other big celebrities, who were either men, or black, or married.</p>
<p>&#8220;What they picked was two sexually available white women.</p>
<p>&#8220;But it must have been a coincidence, because we know John McCain wants to run an elevated campaign focusing on the serious issues that America faces.&#8221;</p>
<p>My own view is that the ad was not just about race but it was, in part, about race.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Oliver.  I also think that if there is racism in the campaign, there will be a pattern of it, and at this point, with this one ad, it doesn&#039;t quite make a pattern yet.  When we see that pattern it will be one thing to include this ad as the start.  But right now, it&#039;s a stupid ad, but I don&#039;t see the racism.

I worry that calling it out will backfire as the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

And worse, I think it cheapens what has happened to real victims of racism and sexism and anti-semitism and any other ism.  People getting beaten up and maimed and murdered and lynched are very much not a politician being compared to some dumb celebrities.

And that&#039;s actually my real beef with this.  I don&#039;t mind bring guns to a knife fight, but I consider valid accusations of bigotry of any sort basically a reason to go to drop a person off a cliff.  I take them very seriously which is why I dislike seeing it trotted out without a very solid case.  Right now, I am not seeing racism, I see a group of Democratic political operatives playing republican games and ignoring the collateral.

Much more importantly, what happened to Seal&#039;s head?  Is it possible my head would look like that if I shaved it?  If I shaved it, and made my head look like that, could I get Klum&#039;s sister?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Oliver.  I also think that if there is racism in the campaign, there will be a pattern of it, and at this point, with this one ad, it doesn&#8217;t quite make a pattern yet.  When we see that pattern it will be one thing to include this ad as the start.  But right now, it&#8217;s a stupid ad, but I don&#8217;t see the racism.</p>
<p>I worry that calling it out will backfire as the Boy Who Cried Wolf.</p>
<p>And worse, I think it cheapens what has happened to real victims of racism and sexism and anti-semitism and any other ism.  People getting beaten up and maimed and murdered and lynched are very much not a politician being compared to some dumb celebrities.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s actually my real beef with this.  I don&#8217;t mind bring guns to a knife fight, but I consider valid accusations of bigotry of any sort basically a reason to go to drop a person off a cliff.  I take them very seriously which is why I dislike seeing it trotted out without a very solid case.  Right now, I am not seeing racism, I see a group of Democratic political operatives playing republican games and ignoring the collateral.</p>
<p>Much more importantly, what happened to Seal&#8217;s head?  Is it possible my head would look like that if I shaved it?  If I shaved it, and made my head look like that, could I get Klum&#8217;s sister?</p>
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		<title>By: WWB</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, I think I agree with you. Each and every sentence, perhaps. Doesn&#039;t happen often, but I appreciate the clear-headed take. More intellectually honest than than Marshall or Perlstein, to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, I think I agree with you. Each and every sentence, perhaps. Doesn&#8217;t happen often, but I appreciate the clear-headed take. More intellectually honest than than Marshall or Perlstein, to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it bothers me, and I expect race-baiting ads to come from the right. But this ad isn&#039;t one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it bothers me, and I expect race-baiting ads to come from the right. But this ad isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you, OW.

I think the McCain team was going for a Dowd shot--comparing Obama to vapid, preening, so-yesterday, girlie-girls.

They missed, though. What they succeeded in doing is reminding us that people actually &lt;em&gt;want to hear&lt;/em&gt; what McCain&#039;s opponent has to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, OW.</p>
<p>I think the McCain team was going for a Dowd shot&#8211;comparing Obama to vapid, preening, so-yesterday, girlie-girls.</p>
<p>They missed, though. What they succeeded in doing is reminding us that people actually <em>want to hear</em> what McCain&#8217;s opponent has to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver:
It doesn&#039;t bother you that McCain employs the same guy that created the infamous Harold Ford ad?  As someone elsewhere said, what is Paris and Britney famous for?  Their sexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver:<br />
It doesn&#8217;t bother you that McCain employs the same guy that created the infamous Harold Ford ad?  As someone elsewhere said, what is Paris and Britney famous for?  Their sexuality.</p>
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