“Interesting questions, no?”

NO

Longer Weaslly McLyingAllTheTime:

IOKIYAR! Pay no attention to all this Republican’t war pork! Only Democrats can waste our tax money!

Gravypan, Jul 30th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

I was wondering when the ‘But they do it, too!!!’ defense would come to the surface in this thread.

Congrats, ‘pidge.

I was wondering when the ‘hey, pay no attention when Republican’ts do it, but relentlessly hammer the Democrats if they even think of doing it’ meme would be spewed from a vacuous Scaife-funded Republican’t Putsch fellator.

Congrats, Gravypan.

“The Democrats’ package bundled numerous uncontroversial proposals in an attempt to overcome procedural hurdles Coburn has imposed.”

Jay reads that passage and thinks the packaging is to load the pork. What it actually says is the democrats bundled several(36) proposals together that Coburn had blocked. That way, instead of having 36 individual battles, they could have one battle.

They didn’t come up. They were blocked from coming up. So now, they were bundled so they could hopefully come to the floor.

Read the damn article next time instead of skimming it for little nuggets you try to use in your arguments even though you don’t understand what they mean. And these 36, were the uncontroversial of the ones Coburn has blocked.

Full context:
The overall bill, dubbed the Advancing America’s Priorities Act, was blocked by a 50-42 vote, short of the 60 votes need to overcome a filibuster. It was created in an effort to draw attention to Sen. Tom Coburn, a stalwart crusader for tightening the pursestrings of government.

The Democrats’ package bundled numerous uncontroversial proposals in an attempt to overcome procedural hurdles Coburn has imposed.

Then you shouldn’t make assertions that you cannot back up. As such your claim that the Senate took up each and every one of these measures separately is specious at best.

If Coburn weren’t obstructing every bill in sight,

There you go again! You just admitted that you don’t know if these bills came up separately and yet you’re repeating the same assertion.

I’d say it was more a case of Reid holding paralyzed vets hostage than Republicans blocking aid to them…

“Pony up for the realtime writers. broadband, monkeys, the Chesapeake Bay, beaches, a museum for Polish Jews, the Appalachians, foreign investment, rain forests, coral beaches, and all this other stuff, or the vets get it!”

Note that the beaches alone get just over three times the money the paralyzed vets get in this bill that Oliver says is all about veterans…

J.

Again?

We went over this last week. That’s codswallop!

Congrats, ‘pidge.

For every dollar spent on the Reeves program, this bill includes $8.25 for other programs.

And because Reid (by the way, did you hear that he’s one of those scary Mormons, like Mitt Romney?) hath decreed it so, no one is allowed to question this bundle in the slightest. No debate, no amendments — you say yes or no to the whole deal, then sit down and shut up.

What I find astonishing is that more Senators aren’t telling Reid to go pound sand.

No, on second thought, I am not astonished.

I just remembered the overwhelming contempt I hold for nearly every single member of Congress, and how they earned it.

I also remember my staunch belief that “in a democracy, the people get the government they deserve” and that Reid and Pelosi were elected to their positions.

This rebellion against Reid’s autocratic reign is the slightest glimmer of hope I’ve seen in a long time.

J.

“The Democrats’ package bundled numerous uncontroversial proposals in an attempt to overcome procedural hurdles Coburn has imposed.”

This came up weeks ago when Reid first proposed bundling the 100 bills that Coburn has blocked into various package legislation.

How much difference two years makes when republibots were screaming and frothing about obstructionism and undermining the government when democrats would block the occasional bad bill or worst of Bush’s nominations. Now that they are in the minority obstruction is the only game they play. Record breaking obstructionism.

NO

“But overall, the legislation would have created programs costing $10 billion without proposing ways to pay for them.”

How many of those War funding bills were passed with Coburn’s blessing?

How many of them included “ways to pay for them”?

After 2005, how many of them could have been at least included in the normal DoD budget process?

Interesting questions, no?

So you’re saying that the Reeve bill came up on its own and was not packaged with anything else? That’s what you’re saying?

Do you have any evidence of this? If Coburn held up this bill on its own, I could understand the frustration of people who wanted to get it passed.

Coburn himself said that some of bills in question are good programs, but Reid doesn’t want to debate them and he refuses to allow them to be amended. Why should anybody just roll over and allow it to pass because somebody attached a nice title on it.

Why would you support the daycare bill along with the 2 other bills that are going to cost exponentially more?

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