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	<title>Comments on: Ted Stevens Indicted On 7 Charges Of Corruption</title>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How nice it would be if somebody legitimately studied this - like rounded up all the legit clear-cut cases of corruption/malfeasance and just added up the bill for each party. You could even use some sort of standard pain-and-suffering civil court damages for corruption that doesn&#039;t cause financial damage.

Until then, our evidence is pretty much anecdotal, no? Can we really go by the few high profile cases without including the piddly state-level stuff that probably flies under the national radar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How nice it would be if somebody legitimately studied this &#8211; like rounded up all the legit clear-cut cases of corruption/malfeasance and just added up the bill for each party. You could even use some sort of standard pain-and-suffering civil court damages for corruption that doesn&#8217;t cause financial damage.</p>
<p>Until then, our evidence is pretty much anecdotal, no? Can we really go by the few high profile cases without including the piddly state-level stuff that probably flies under the national radar?</p>
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		<title>By: Haplo9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haplo9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parth,
See Jaim&#039;s last comment. I rest my case. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parth,<br />
See Jaim&#8217;s last comment. I rest my case. <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riiiight....  Stevens was just another bad apple.  Not like he was one of the most powerful men in Congress or anything.

I say, root &#039;em all out and tie &#039;em up by their toes.  Start with William Jefferson, then follow up with Stevens, Craig, Vitter, Foley, etc.

Sorry, the facts are against you.  When you&#039;ve got four major Dems indicted on obscenity, pederasty, visiting hookers, tax evasion, and corruption charges, etc., please put up a post on your own blog and I&#039;ll happily eat crow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riiiight&#8230;.  Stevens was just another bad apple.  Not like he was one of the most powerful men in Congress or anything.</p>
<p>I say, root &#8216;em all out and tie &#8216;em up by their toes.  Start with William Jefferson, then follow up with Stevens, Craig, Vitter, Foley, etc.</p>
<p>Sorry, the facts are against you.  When you&#8217;ve got four major Dems indicted on obscenity, pederasty, visiting hookers, tax evasion, and corruption charges, etc., please put up a post on your own blog and I&#8217;ll happily eat crow.</p>
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		<title>By: Haplo9</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/07/29/ted-stevens-indicted-on-7-charges-of-corruption/#comment-106342</link>
		<dc:creator>Haplo9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I have to say that I’m impressed with the commenters so far. Nobody has said ‘Republicans en masse are corrupt,’ and no Republican has retorted ‘here’s some scandals involving Democrats that prove they’re corrupt too.’

eh? What do you think this comment (which came before yours) from Jaim is?

&quot;But expect the media to play this in their usually “bipartisan” manner — Stevens was just another politican, and his deeply Republican political ties had nothing to do with any of it.&quot;

I considered responding to it but decided not to bother for the reasons you mention above - it just devolves into a &quot;which party is more corrupt&quot; waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I have to say that I’m impressed with the commenters so far. Nobody has said ‘Republicans en masse are corrupt,’ and no Republican has retorted ‘here’s some scandals involving Democrats that prove they’re corrupt too.’</p>
<p>eh? What do you think this comment (which came before yours) from Jaim is?</p>
<p>&#8220;But expect the media to play this in their usually “bipartisan” manner — Stevens was just another politican, and his deeply Republican political ties had nothing to do with any of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I considered responding to it but decided not to bother for the reasons you mention above &#8211; it just devolves into a &#8220;which party is more corrupt&#8221; waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nobody has said ‘Republicans en masse are corrupt,’ &lt;/i&gt;

Well, other than Oliver&#039;s &quot;Ah, those Republicans strike again…&quot; that led off the post.

But that&#039;s to be expected... Oliver&#039;s got a theme he has to push (i.e. &quot;the huge, pervasive and overwhelming Republican culture of corruption that dwarfs the tiny, miniscule, almost non-exist cases of the occasional Democrat who gets somewhat into the gray area of ethical behavior, but it&#039;s usually just an isolated case or a big misunderstanding&quot;) if he wants to move up the Media Matters food chain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nobody has said ‘Republicans en masse are corrupt,’ </i></p>
<p>Well, other than Oliver&#8217;s &#8220;Ah, those Republicans strike again…&#8221; that led off the post.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s to be expected&#8230; Oliver&#8217;s got a theme he has to push (i.e. &#8220;the huge, pervasive and overwhelming Republican culture of corruption that dwarfs the tiny, miniscule, almost non-exist cases of the occasional Democrat who gets somewhat into the gray area of ethical behavior, but it&#8217;s usually just an isolated case or a big misunderstanding&#8221;) if he wants to move up the Media Matters food chain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Craig is still in office.

Just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Craig is still in office.</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;doh! And we were so close, Parthenon …&lt;/i&gt;

Alas. 

There are those among us who can&#039;t help themselves. 

(this infernal bag of bolts whacked out when I posted last, so apologies if this double posts.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>doh! And we were so close, Parthenon …</i></p>
<p>Alas. </p>
<p>There are those among us who can&#8217;t help themselves. </p>
<p>(this infernal bag of bolts whacked out when I posted last, so apologies if this double posts.)</p>
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		<title>By: Southern Quaker</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/07/29/ted-stevens-indicted-on-7-charges-of-corruption/#comment-106312</link>
		<dc:creator>Southern Quaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Here’s hoping the Democrats pay close attention, and apply even a fraction of the approbition to the aforementioned William Jefferson.&lt;/i&gt;

doh! And we were so close, Parthenon ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Here’s hoping the Democrats pay close attention, and apply even a fraction of the approbition to the aforementioned William Jefferson.</i></p>
<p>doh! And we were so close, Parthenon &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see it. I don&#039;t follow Congress too carefully, but it&#039;s been my opinion for some time -- and, I think, with some justification -- that members of Congress are &quot;guilty until proven innocent, and probably oughta be tossed out of office anyway just on general principles&quot; in cases like this.

He&#039;ll become an instant pariah, and deservedly so, much like Mark Foley and Duke Cunningham and Larry Craig. 

Here&#039;s hoping the Democrats pay close attention, and apply even a fraction of the approbition to the aforementioned William Jefferson.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see it. I don&#8217;t follow Congress too carefully, but it&#8217;s been my opinion for some time &#8212; and, I think, with some justification &#8212; that members of Congress are &#8220;guilty until proven innocent, and probably oughta be tossed out of office anyway just on general principles&#8221; in cases like this.</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll become an instant pariah, and deservedly so, much like Mark Foley and Duke Cunningham and Larry Craig. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping the Democrats pay close attention, and apply even a fraction of the approbition to the aforementioned William Jefferson.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: White Whale</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/07/29/ted-stevens-indicted-on-7-charges-of-corruption/#comment-106293</link>
		<dc:creator>White Whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://youtube.com/watch?v=VEXJV2P2ZIw

Ted Stevens: &quot;NO!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=VEXJV2P2ZIw" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=VEXJV2P2ZIw</a></p>
<p>Ted Stevens: &#8220;NO!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I&#039;m impressed with the commenters so far. Nobody has said &#039;Republicans en masse are corrupt,&#039; and no Republican has retorted &#039;here&#039;s some scandals involving Democrats that prove they&#039;re corrupt too.&#039;

A hearty congratulations to everybody.

&lt;i&gt;The formerly Republican-led House and Senate were incredibly corrupt and venal&lt;/i&gt;

That, however, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/worst_congress_ever&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;probably true.&lt;/a&gt; The story isn&#039;t written on the current group, but I get the feeling it&#039;s not going to look much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I&#8217;m impressed with the commenters so far. Nobody has said &#8216;Republicans en masse are corrupt,&#8217; and no Republican has retorted &#8216;here&#8217;s some scandals involving Democrats that prove they&#8217;re corrupt too.&#8217;</p>
<p>A hearty congratulations to everybody.</p>
<p><i>The formerly Republican-led House and Senate were incredibly corrupt and venal</i></p>
<p>That, however, is <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/worst_congress_ever" rel="nofollow">probably true.</a> The story isn&#8217;t written on the current group, but I get the feeling it&#8217;s not going to look much better.</p>
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		<title>By: White Whale</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/07/29/ted-stevens-indicted-on-7-charges-of-corruption/#comment-106291</link>
		<dc:creator>White Whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted Stevens: &quot;NO!&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Stevens: &#8220;NO!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t say I&#039;m sad to see him go, but it&#039;s unfortunate that the wheels of justice turn more slowly than our election cycles.  The formerly Republican-led House and Senate were incredibly corrupt and venal, but news like this plays into the MSM&#039;s narrative of &quot;OMG Congress is worse than Bush!&quot;

So, glad to see the little scumbag get what he deserves.  But expect the media to play this in their usually &quot;bipartisan&quot; manner -- Stevens was just another politican, and his deeply Republican political ties had nothing to do with any of it.

Also strange to see a Republican scandal that doesn&#039;t involve gay sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m sad to see him go, but it&#8217;s unfortunate that the wheels of justice turn more slowly than our election cycles.  The formerly Republican-led House and Senate were incredibly corrupt and venal, but news like this plays into the MSM&#8217;s narrative of &#8220;OMG Congress is worse than Bush!&#8221;</p>
<p>So, glad to see the little scumbag get what he deserves.  But expect the media to play this in their usually &#8220;bipartisan&#8221; manner &#8212; Stevens was just another politican, and his deeply Republican political ties had nothing to do with any of it.</p>
<p>Also strange to see a Republican scandal that doesn&#8217;t involve gay sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Haplo9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haplo9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t say I&#039;d be sad to see him retire. I hope someone gets him out of office, whether D or R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;d be sad to see him retire. I hope someone gets him out of office, whether D or R.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be so glass half empty.  The glass is half full and Stevens was NOT guilty of cheating on his wife in a gay love affair.

I am hopeful that the placard on his bridge to nowhere can be changed to reflect this indictment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be so glass half empty.  The glass is half full and Stevens was NOT guilty of cheating on his wife in a gay love affair.</p>
<p>I am hopeful that the placard on his bridge to nowhere can be changed to reflect this indictment.</p>
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		<title>By: Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver,

Have you heard anything about William Jefferson as of late? His scandal seems to have disappeared off the face of the planet. 

As for Stevens, he&#039;ll get no sympathy with the GOP. They despise him for his earmarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver,</p>
<p>Have you heard anything about William Jefferson as of late? His scandal seems to have disappeared off the face of the planet. </p>
<p>As for Stevens, he&#8217;ll get no sympathy with the GOP. They despise him for his earmarks.</p>
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