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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103445</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it&#039;s possible O&#039;Neill traveled on his own dime. But I doubt it:

&lt;blockquote&gt;White House records show that Nixon and his advisers were so concerned about Kerry they immediately began looking around for other Vietnam veterans who would counter his popular appeal. One they came up with was O&#039;Neill, described by Colson in a memo as &quot;a very attractive dedicated young man -- short hair, very square, very patriotic.&quot; Haldeman told Nixon that O&#039;Neill (&quot;a great little sharp-looking guy&quot;) was not &quot;as eloquent as Kerry&quot; but was &quot;more believable.&quot; 

O&#039;Neill, who had returned from Vietnam in June 1970, belonged to a group called Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, identified by Colson in a memo to Nixon as &quot;an organization specifically set up to counter Kerry.&quot; He started making the rounds of the TV studios, delighting the White House with his fiery denunciations of Kerry and support for Nixon&#039;s Vietnamization policy. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it&#8217;s possible O&#8217;Neill traveled on his own dime. But I doubt it:</p>
<blockquote><p>White House records show that Nixon and his advisers were so concerned about Kerry they immediately began looking around for other Vietnam veterans who would counter his popular appeal. One they came up with was O&#8217;Neill, described by Colson in a memo as &#8220;a very attractive dedicated young man &#8212; short hair, very square, very patriotic.&#8221; Haldeman told Nixon that O&#8217;Neill (&#8221;a great little sharp-looking guy&#8221;) was not &#8220;as eloquent as Kerry&#8221; but was &#8220;more believable.&#8221; </p>
<p>O&#8217;Neill, who had returned from Vietnam in June 1970, belonged to a group called Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, identified by Colson in a memo to Nixon as &#8220;an organization specifically set up to counter Kerry.&#8221; He started making the rounds of the TV studios, delighting the White House with his fiery denunciations of Kerry and support for Nixon&#8217;s Vietnamization policy. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103443</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I caught the part in the article about how O Neal was pissed at Kerry for what he thought were slanders but somehow I missed the part about Nixon paying him.  If he did pay him, like I said, Tricky Dick sure got a good long lasting value for his money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I caught the part in the article about how O Neal was pissed at Kerry for what he thought were slanders but somehow I missed the part about Nixon paying him.  If he did pay him, like I said, Tricky Dick sure got a good long lasting value for his money.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103384</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Are you sure that John O Neil wasn’t an individual with a strong sense of being wronged by John Kerry’s claims who was eager to get a platform for his views?&lt;/em&gt;

Read the article I linked. Judge for yourself. The article says he was recruited by Colson and encouraged by Nixon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Are you sure that John O Neil wasn’t an individual with a strong sense of being wronged by John Kerry’s claims who was eager to get a platform for his views?</em></p>
<p>Read the article I linked. Judge for yourself. The article says he was recruited by Colson and encouraged by Nixon.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103383</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Considering he went on the warpath against Kerry some 30 years after the Cavett show it must have been a lot of money.&lt;/em&gt;

My mistake. I thought you were talking about &quot;far back in time&quot;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Look at the old Dick Cavett clips to see how far back in time Kerry’s war buddies hated his guts and thought he was a lying asshole.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Considering he went on the warpath against Kerry some 30 years after the Cavett show it must have been a lot of money.</em></p>
<p>My mistake. I thought you were talking about &#8220;far back in time&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Look at the old Dick Cavett clips to see how far back in time Kerry’s war buddies hated his guts and thought he was a lying asshole.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103380</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker,
Not running away, just tending to life.  I haven&#039;t read the book you quoted, I was unaware that he agreed to go on the Cavett show because he was paid to do so by Dick Nixon.  Considering he went on the warpath against Kerry some 30 years after the Cavett show it must have been a lot of money.  Talk about bang for your buck.  No wonder Colson boasting. 

Are you sure that John O Neil wasn&#039;t an individual with a strong sense of being wronged by John Kerry&#039;s claims who was eager to get a platform for his views?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker,<br />
Not running away, just tending to life.  I haven&#8217;t read the book you quoted, I was unaware that he agreed to go on the Cavett show because he was paid to do so by Dick Nixon.  Considering he went on the warpath against Kerry some 30 years after the Cavett show it must have been a lot of money.  Talk about bang for your buck.  No wonder Colson boasting. </p>
<p>Are you sure that John O Neil wasn&#8217;t an individual with a strong sense of being wronged by John Kerry&#8217;s claims who was eager to get a platform for his views?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103374</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AO? Hello?

It&#039;s disappointing when they run away like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AO? Hello?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s disappointing when they run away like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103207</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What am I smoking, AO? Some good stuff, man:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Archival records show that O&#039;Neill, who has been making the rounds of the TV talk shows this month to promote his best-selling anti-Kerry book, &quot;Unfit for Command,&quot; was encouraged to go on television in 1971 by President Richard M. Nixon and his aide Charles W. Colson. Nixon regarded Kerry as the antiwar movement&#039;s most effective and articulate spokesman, and the president was desperate to undercut the activist&#039;s popular appeal. 

&quot;Let&#039;s hear it from the O&#039;Neills now,&quot; Nixon told his 25-year-old protege, after warning him that the Cavett show&#039;s producers &quot;inevitably . . . have it stacked against you.&quot; Colson later boasted to Nixon Chief of Staff H.R. &quot;Bob&quot; Haldeman that O&#039;Neill &quot;has agreed that he will appear anytime, anywhere that we program him,&quot; according to White House records.

Wanna &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39956-2004Aug27.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; toke?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What am I smoking, AO? Some good stuff, man:</p>
<blockquote><p>Archival records show that O&#8217;Neill, who has been making the rounds of the TV talk shows this month to promote his best-selling anti-Kerry book, &#8220;Unfit for Command,&#8221; was encouraged to go on television in 1971 by President Richard M. Nixon and his aide Charles W. Colson. Nixon regarded Kerry as the antiwar movement&#8217;s most effective and articulate spokesman, and the president was desperate to undercut the activist&#8217;s popular appeal. </p>
<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s hear it from the O&#8217;Neills now,&#8221; Nixon told his 25-year-old protege, after warning him that the Cavett show&#8217;s producers &#8220;inevitably . . . have it stacked against you.&#8221; Colson later boasted to Nixon Chief of Staff H.R. &#8220;Bob&#8221; Haldeman that O&#8217;Neill &#8220;has agreed that he will appear anytime, anywhere that we program him,&#8221; according to White House records.</p>
<p>Wanna <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39956-2004Aug27.html" rel="nofollow"> toke?</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103204</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Lying down with fleas, etc.&lt;/em&gt;

You wake up with dogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Lying down with fleas, etc.</em></p>
<p>You wake up with dogs?</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-103034</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olliver,
Cites please?

Quaker,
John O&#039;Neil is a Nixon Goon?  What are you smoking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olliver,<br />
Cites please?</p>
<p>Quaker,<br />
John O&#8217;Neil is a Nixon Goon?  What are you smoking?</p>
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		<title>By: Scratch</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-102841</link>
		<dc:creator>Scratch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, is there an online resource of Swift Boat debunkery better than the stuff at Media Matters?  That one fell a little short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, is there an online resource of Swift Boat debunkery better than the stuff at Media Matters?  That one fell a little short.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-102834</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Look at the old Dick Cavett clips to see how far back in time &lt;strike&gt;Kerry’s war buddies&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Nixon&#039;s paid goons&lt;/strong&gt; hated his guts &lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re welcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Look at the old Dick Cavett clips to see how far back in time <strike>Kerry’s war buddies</strike> <strong>Nixon&#8217;s paid goons</strong> hated his guts </em></p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-102802</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-swiftboat_21pol.ART.State.Edition2.4deb74e.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The claims have been debunked (time and again) but T. Boone Pickens won&#039;t pay up&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-swiftboat_21pol.ART.State.Edition2.4deb74e.html" rel="nofollow">The claims have been debunked (time and again) but T. Boone Pickens won&#8217;t pay up</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-102780</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is still a cool million out there for anyone that can disprove the Swiftboat claims.  Look at the old Dick Cavett clips to see how far back in time Kerry&#039;s war buddies hated his guts and thought he was a lying asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is still a cool million out there for anyone that can disprove the Swiftboat claims.  Look at the old Dick Cavett clips to see how far back in time Kerry&#8217;s war buddies hated his guts and thought he was a lying asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: Scratch</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/30/swiftboaters-on-mccain-campaign/#comment-102741</link>
		<dc:creator>Scratch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out the Media Matters page that &quot;debunks&quot; the Swift Boat claims, and found it rather weak.  Most of the &quot;debunking&quot; seems to revolve around semantics.  For example, the &quot;debunked&quot; claim that Kerry &quot;joined forces with Fonda&#039;s anti-war efforts&quot; devolves into an analysis of who appeared on stage when, and a remark that Kerry and Fonda &quot;never even shook hands,&quot;...though they did speak at the same anti-war event!

My favorite part, though, is this:  &quot;...&lt;i&gt;A Swift Boat Vets attack ad released in September also claimed that Kerry &quot;secretly met with enemy leaders in Paris.&quot; But as MMFA and The Washington Post noted at the time, the meeting was not a secret. &lt;/i&gt;  That, my friends, is comedy gold.  Debunked, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the Media Matters page that &#8220;debunks&#8221; the Swift Boat claims, and found it rather weak.  Most of the &#8220;debunking&#8221; seems to revolve around semantics.  For example, the &#8220;debunked&#8221; claim that Kerry &#8220;joined forces with Fonda&#8217;s anti-war efforts&#8221; devolves into an analysis of who appeared on stage when, and a remark that Kerry and Fonda &#8220;never even shook hands,&#8221;&#8230;though they did speak at the same anti-war event!</p>
<p>My favorite part, though, is this:  &#8220;&#8230;<i>A Swift Boat Vets attack ad released in September also claimed that Kerry &#8220;secretly met with enemy leaders in Paris.&#8221; But as MMFA and The Washington Post noted at the time, the meeting was not a secret. </i>  That, my friends, is comedy gold.  Debunked, indeed.</p>
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