Smith, Mr. Clark said pretty much what you just wrote. He didn’t “question his service.”

Duros: Chris Matthews, February 12, 2008, during MSNBC’s live primary coverage: “I have to tell you, you know, it’s part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama’s speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often.”

Feel free to double-check it, but here’s one source I suspect you trust — with verifying video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/13/chris-matthews-i-felt-t_n_86449.html

J.

Feel free to argue whether or not McCain’s military record qualifies him for president (I don’t think it does).

Jaye can now set aside the false outrage, as it is clear that Clark said nothing else.

Sean: “Takes two to tango. The topic wouldn’t get off topic unless others agree to go there.”

Two points…

1.) I’m not the one changing the topic. So if you are going to come after me, you better do the same to Jay Tea.

2.) The person who initiates the problem should be the person to talk to first.

But you can question whether it makes him more fit than someone else. You can question whether that experience is relevant. And to suggest that those aspects of it (how/whether it prepared him for the Presidency) can’t be questioned is to use his service as a place to hide.

Indeed, a valid argument could be made that a deep involvement in the military makes one LESS fit to be a civilian leader. People tend to stick with what they know, and seeing a broad array of approaches beyond just the use of military force might not come easily to someone indoctrinated into the military mindset.

Takes two to tango. The topic wouldn’t get off topic unless others agree to go there.

That was Fred Thompson, Jay, not Barack Obama.
Every little bit of truth helps around here.

That being said, your read is likely what will be bandied about the press and impressions are reality, unfortunately.

Clark did not do Senator Obama any favors by making this statement at all. Say what you want about John McCain, but you cannot question his service.

You made yourself the topic when you claimed you were being treated like a heretic. But don’t let reality get in the way of your delusions. You wouldn’t be a Republican if you had the ability to accurate judge reality.

If anyone needs me, I’ll be in my bunk.

J.

Delusions of persecution.

Seek psychiatric help.

J.

I’ll spot him the 2, if you think it’ll help.

So McCain got into Annapolis as a legacy admission, and crashed 5 jets.

That counts one plane shot down by anti-aircraft fire, and one blown up under him while strapped to the deck of an aircraft carrier. In other words, he’s responsible for a plane lost because someone who wanted to shoot it down got lucky, and another plane lost when a missile on another American’s plane went loose and triggered a disastrous fire that ended up killing 134 Americans, wounding another 161, and about two dozen planes were lost.

McCain did absolutely nothing — and did everything right. A power surge on another plane sent a Zuni rocket across the flight deck, hitting either his plane or the one next one, triggering the fire. McCain can be seen getting the hell out of his cockpit, sliding down the nose, and running like hell — getting out of the way of the trained firefighters, precisely like he should have. It’s because he did that that he survived, because shortly thereafter the bombs on other planes started exploding, killing all the firefighters.

So, KXB, are you just ignorant, or an asshole?

Feel free to argue whether or not McCain’s military record qualifies him for president (I don’t think it does). I’ll be glad to quote the arguments made in 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2004 that showed both sides of the argument, when presented on behalf of the presidential nominees. But do NOT denigrate the man’s service in the Navy. He sactificed a hell of a lot more than the last six Democratic nominees together (Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Dukakis, Mondale) when it comes to military service.

J.

J.