Comments on: Fatherhood Initiative http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:43:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101571 Duros62 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:59:34 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101571 <i>Apparently you don’t have a young daughter. They will not be denied.</i> Well, she's 19 now, but yeah, I hear ya. Apparently you don’t have a young daughter. They will not be denied.

Well, she’s 19 now, but yeah, I hear ya.

]]> By: Vanessa http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101524 Vanessa Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:59:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101524 Philip, Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, though I believe that there ARE plenty of prosperous pops (doctors, business men, etc) who are AWOL. Philip,

Yeah, I understand where you’re coming from, though I believe that there ARE plenty of prosperous pops (doctors, business men, etc) who are AWOL.

]]> By: Vanessa http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101523 Vanessa Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:50:06 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101523 My dad and my sisters and I used to play this game called monster blanket. He would hide under this big tacky tiger blanket and growl while my sisters and I would scurry around the blanket on the carpet. Then he would grab one of our ankles, pull us under the blanket and tickle us. We would scream and giggle with joy. I miss him. My dad and my sisters and I used to play this game called monster blanket. He would hide under this big tacky tiger blanket and growl while my sisters and I would scurry around the blanket on the carpet. Then he would grab one of our ankles, pull us under the blanket and tickle us. We would scream and giggle with joy. I miss him.

]]> By: Philip Shropshire http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101514 Philip Shropshire Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:45:34 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101514 Vanessa: Yeah, that homeowner thing came off wrong. I guess I was trying to say that the people they're aiming for, to pull themselves up by their pails or their bootstraps and such, probably wouldn't be prosperous homeowners as well. Just sayin'... Vanessa: Yeah, that homeowner thing came off wrong. I guess I was trying to say that the people they’re aiming for, to pull themselves up by their pails or their bootstraps and such, probably wouldn’t be prosperous homeowners as well. Just sayin’…

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101511 Quaker in a Basement Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:41:25 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101511 <em>I don’t either. Still and all, he couldn’t do that stuff inside?</em> Apparently you don't have a young daughter. They will not be denied. I don’t either. Still and all, he couldn’t do that stuff inside?

Apparently you don’t have a young daughter. They will not be denied.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101458 Duros62 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:38:23 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101458 <i>I don’t think he is gay. I think the point of the commercial is that he loves his little girl SO MUCH that he will act like a fool for her.</i> I don't either. Still and all, he couldn't do that stuff inside? I don’t think he is gay. I think the point of the commercial is that he loves his little girl SO MUCH that he will act like a fool for her.

I don’t either. Still and all, he couldn’t do that stuff inside?

]]> By: Vanessa http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101428 Vanessa Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:38:03 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101428 P.S. Oh, and what makes you think the black man is not a homeowner? I live in NYC and plenty of people own their apartments. P.S. Oh, and what makes you think the black man is not a homeowner? I live in NYC and plenty of people own their apartments.

]]> By: Vanessa http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101422 Vanessa Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:17:47 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101422 "the second guy is clearly gay" I don't think he is gay. I think the point of the commercial is that he loves his little girl SO MUCH that he will act like a fool for her. I think it's very endearing. I don't see it as being racist either (but I'm a white woman). “the second guy is clearly gay”

I don’t think he is gay. I think the point of the commercial is that he loves his little girl SO MUCH that he will act like a fool for her. I think it’s very endearing. I don’t see it as being racist either (but I’m a white woman).

]]> By: Philip Shropshire http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101389 Philip Shropshire Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:54:46 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101389 Well, the first guy is a homeowner which puts most black men out of the range of this commercial. Two, the second guy is clearly gay, sure he's not the out of the closet uncle...I know he's supportive. Couldn't get mom to do the cheerleading spot? Anywayz... I have some problems with the Booker T. Washington Obama speech. I don't mind it as much as other people and I try to keep in mind that Obama is trying to appeal to white voters while he's talking to black folks. Fine, we get that tactically. The problem is that I don't think the problem is getting more credentials if, as you posted earlier, white criminals do better at getting jobs than black men, probably better educated as well, without criminal records. If I had to pick enemies it wouldn't be our laziness, it would be massive deindustrialization and the massive influx of drugs into the community. Its also true, and the excellent series the Wire pointed this out, that oftentimes crime is a better choice for the black man than working at Walmart if you're actually trying to support a family. I guess if you wanted a real test on this: create 25000 manufacturing jobs that pay a living wage (about 15 to 20 an hour) and then compare crime and out of wedlock stats. My guess is that they would go down. You might say, well, creating 25000 manufacturing jobs isn't easy and you're right but here's something I wish Bill Cosby would do. Invest in Guy Negre's aircar and build several plants and dealerships all around Philadelphia. I just think that crime and other pathologies would go down. It's easier to be a good father if you have a good paying job. And Cosby has the money. He should put his money where his mouth his. They're looking for american investors. It would be nice if they were black. You can't feed a family on service industry jobs. Philip Shropshire www.threeriversonline.com The aircar is real. Go here for info: http://www.youtube.com/user/CATvolution Well, the first guy is a homeowner which puts most black men out of the range of this commercial. Two, the second guy is clearly gay, sure he’s not the out of the closet uncle…I know he’s supportive. Couldn’t get mom to do the cheerleading spot?

Anywayz…

I have some problems with the Booker T. Washington Obama speech. I don’t mind it as much as other people and I try to keep in mind that Obama is trying to appeal to white voters while he’s talking to black folks. Fine, we get that tactically. The problem is that I don’t think the problem is getting more credentials if, as you posted earlier, white criminals do better at getting jobs than black men, probably better educated as well, without criminal records. If I had to pick enemies it wouldn’t be our laziness, it would be massive deindustrialization and the massive influx of drugs into the community. Its also true, and the excellent series the Wire pointed this out, that oftentimes crime is a better choice for the black man than working at Walmart if you’re actually trying to support a family.

I guess if you wanted a real test on this: create 25000 manufacturing jobs that pay a living wage (about 15 to 20 an hour) and then compare crime and out of wedlock stats. My guess is that they would go down. You might say, well, creating 25000 manufacturing jobs isn’t easy and you’re right but here’s something I wish Bill Cosby would do. Invest in Guy Negre’s aircar and build several plants and dealerships all around Philadelphia. I just think that crime and other pathologies would go down. It’s easier to be a good father if you have a good paying job. And Cosby has the money. He should put his money where his mouth his. They’re looking for american investors. It would be nice if they were black. You can’t feed a family on service industry jobs.

Philip Shropshire
http://www.threeriversonline.com

The aircar is real. Go here for info:

http://www.youtube.com/user/CATvolution

]]> By: Dkelsmith http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101384 Dkelsmith Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:46:04 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101384 That reminds me of being 9 years old, watching USA Kung Fu Theater with my dad and having a "Karate Match" afterward. That reminds me of being 9 years old, watching USA Kung Fu Theater with my dad and having a “Karate Match” afterward.

]]> By: John http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101380 John Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:21:39 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101380 Oh man, talk about belittling the black man. I've got two girls and I know that I've been there and done that but, the white boy does combat and the man does cheerleading (not that there is anything wrong with that as a man who has done it -- the cheerleading practice, that is), but c'mon no gender stereotypes plays right into no race stereotypes. Oh man, talk about belittling the black man. I’ve got two girls and I know that I’ve been there and done that but, the white boy does combat and the man does cheerleading (not that there is anything wrong with that as a man who has done it — the cheerleading practice, that is), but c’mon no gender stereotypes plays right into no race stereotypes.

]]> By: Dorothee http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101371 Dorothee Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:47:15 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101371 Thanks for posting Oliver :) Keep up the great work! Thanks for posting Oliver :) Keep up the great work!

]]> By: TroyJMorris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101365 TroyJMorris Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:06:21 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101365 Those are the greatest feeling commercials. Those are the greatest feeling commercials.

]]> By: White Whale http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101358 White Whale Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:55:02 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/19/fatherhood-initiative/#comment-101358 Cute:) Cute:)

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