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	<title>Comments on: A Violin For The L.A. Times</title>
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	<description>Like Kryptonite To Stupid</description>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/12/a-violin-for-the-la-times/#comment-100558</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s lacking isn&#039;t a point of view.  What&#039;s lacking is actual journalism.

The reason nobody puts headlines like &quot;BRAIN DEAD REPUBLICANS NEED A CALENDAR, SCIENCE SHOWS 365 DAYS A YEAR&quot; or &quot;TERROR LOVING DEMS NEED THEIR CLOCKS RUNG, GET PWNED BY CALENDAR&quot; is because it would actually require them to check the facts of what they&#039;ve been told.

Too many news outlets today just echo what they&#039;ve been told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s lacking isn&#8217;t a point of view.  What&#8217;s lacking is actual journalism.</p>
<p>The reason nobody puts headlines like &#8220;BRAIN DEAD REPUBLICANS NEED A CALENDAR, SCIENCE SHOWS 365 DAYS A YEAR&#8221; or &#8220;TERROR LOVING DEMS NEED THEIR CLOCKS RUNG, GET PWNED BY CALENDAR&#8221; is because it would actually require them to check the facts of what they&#8217;ve been told.</p>
<p>Too many news outlets today just echo what they&#8217;ve been told.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/12/a-violin-for-the-la-times/#comment-100517</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand and sympathize with your point regarding the watering-down effect of objectivity in news - often it does lead to the sort of &#039;he said, she said&#039; reporting as you mentioned in the calendar example, though I suspect deadlines may also play into that sort of laziness. 

There are several problems with having an obvious point of view (to the point of hyper-partisanship in most cases), though. One is the tendency to only read publications that support one&#039;s already existing world view. Your blog is unusual in that it boasts several well-spoken, fairly articulate conservatives. In my admittedly brief experience this isn&#039;t the case - all others I read typically preach only to the converted, based on reading the comments. 

Another is that I&#039;m always suspicious that &#039;point-of-view&#039; publications (they used to be called &#039;yellow,&#039; I think) are hiding evidence from me, or using too small a data set. I have a friend, for instance, who gets most of his news from &#039;onenewsnow&#039; and Fox and so believes that persecution of Christians is an extremely serious issue facing the world today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand and sympathize with your point regarding the watering-down effect of objectivity in news &#8211; often it does lead to the sort of &#8216;he said, she said&#8217; reporting as you mentioned in the calendar example, though I suspect deadlines may also play into that sort of laziness. </p>
<p>There are several problems with having an obvious point of view (to the point of hyper-partisanship in most cases), though. One is the tendency to only read publications that support one&#8217;s already existing world view. Your blog is unusual in that it boasts several well-spoken, fairly articulate conservatives. In my admittedly brief experience this isn&#8217;t the case &#8211; all others I read typically preach only to the converted, based on reading the comments. </p>
<p>Another is that I&#8217;m always suspicious that &#8216;point-of-view&#8217; publications (they used to be called &#8216;yellow,&#8217; I think) are hiding evidence from me, or using too small a data set. I have a friend, for instance, who gets most of his news from &#8216;onenewsnow&#8217; and Fox and so believes that persecution of Christians is an extremely serious issue facing the world today.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/12/a-violin-for-the-la-times/#comment-100508</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the USA Today just as boring. I didn&#039;t say the Post was successful, I said it was entertaining and tried to attract readers (frankly, I don&#039;t know why the Post loses money). You can have a publication that uses facts that also has a point of view. The objectivity racket has brought us &quot;Democrats, Republicans Differ On Amount Of Days In A Year&quot;. The newspaper industry can keep that. I&#039;d much rather a paper that said:

BRAIN DEAD REPUBLICANS NEED A CALENDAR, SCIENCE SHOWS 365 DAYS A YEAR

or

TERROR LOVING DEMS NEED THEIR CLOCKS RUNG, GET PWNED BY CALENDAR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the USA Today just as boring. I didn&#8217;t say the Post was successful, I said it was entertaining and tried to attract readers (frankly, I don&#8217;t know why the Post loses money). You can have a publication that uses facts that also has a point of view. The objectivity racket has brought us &#8220;Democrats, Republicans Differ On Amount Of Days In A Year&#8221;. The newspaper industry can keep that. I&#8217;d much rather a paper that said:</p>
<p>BRAIN DEAD REPUBLICANS NEED A CALENDAR, SCIENCE SHOWS 365 DAYS A YEAR</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>TERROR LOVING DEMS NEED THEIR CLOCKS RUNG, GET PWNED BY CALENDAR</p>
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		<title>By: August J. Pollak</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/12/a-violin-for-the-la-times/#comment-100506</link>
		<dc:creator>August J. Pollak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re crazy.  The New York Post?  Seriously?  Why not just say USA Today is a great paper?  It&#039;s shock news, plus sports.

I don&#039;t understand how you could see a show like Inside Edition or Entertainment Tonight and say that it&#039;s as good, or the same, or a worthy replacement, of an actual news broadcast.  So why say that about the print equivalent?

Furthermore, the Post is in no conceivable way an indication of a successful print newspaper- they practically have to give it away, and it loses nearly $30 million a year.

It&#039;s frankly depressing that you would even say- left or right- that you think news- by definition, something that is supposed to based on facts- should have a bias because that makes it interesting to you.  That seems to be a much more self-centered way of simply saying you&#039;re not interested in news when you don&#039;t like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re crazy.  The New York Post?  Seriously?  Why not just say USA Today is a great paper?  It&#8217;s shock news, plus sports.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how you could see a show like Inside Edition or Entertainment Tonight and say that it&#8217;s as good, or the same, or a worthy replacement, of an actual news broadcast.  So why say that about the print equivalent?</p>
<p>Furthermore, the Post is in no conceivable way an indication of a successful print newspaper- they practically have to give it away, and it loses nearly $30 million a year.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s frankly depressing that you would even say- left or right- that you think news- by definition, something that is supposed to based on facts- should have a bias because that makes it interesting to you.  That seems to be a much more self-centered way of simply saying you&#8217;re not interested in news when you don&#8217;t like it.</p>
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