Bradley T. Kahle, 60, of Troutville, was one of five people arrested in last weekend’s sweep. He told undercover agents he hoped Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama would be killed if they were elected president, and that he would shoot judicial and law enforcement officials if he became terminally ill, according to an affidavit of probable cause made public Tuesday.
“Kahle said words to the effect of, that ‘if Hillary Clinton, or Barack Obama, get elected, hopefully they will get assassinated, if not they will disarm the country and we will have a civil war,’” the affidavit stated.
Kahle made the statement in April, when he also showed two undercover officers several firearms, including a sniper rifle, two AK-47 assault rifles, and about 5,000 rounds of ammunition, according to the affidavit.
Agents on Sunday found 16 homemade bombs during a search of Kahle’s home, about 80 miles northeast of Pittsburgh, authorities said.
Kahle was charged Tuesday with unlawfully possessing firearms, namely improvised explosive devices. A detention hearing is scheduled Wednesday in Johnstown.
Send him to Gitmo so he can appreciate why we need habeas corpus restored.
Interesting to see if he’s charged under domestic terrorism statutes….
I’d wager not.
Idiots,
I hope he is off to a nice cozy jail cell.
“Send him to Gitmo so he can appreciate why we need habeas corpus restored.”
GTMO (not Gitmo) is for foreign detainees or those captured abroad taking up arms against the U.S. not U.S. Citizens.
Respectfully,
The Squid
Squid – Back in 2006, our peerless leader expressed his desire to expand that protocol.
Since his use of signing statements basically meant that he felt he could do whatever he wanted, I have little doubt that there are American citizens in Gitmo right now.
What frigging idiots.
I’m glad they got busted before they acted.
I doubt they actually had the guts to carry out their “plans,” though. They sound like the typical all-talk, no-action dipshits that are so common.
Unlike, say, William Dohrn…
J.
They won’t get much time. Some guy in Tyler TX got caught with 2 large mini storage units stuffed with enough shit to start a small war, including a lot of pipe bombs, and he was allowed to plead out to 8 years.
I think the only appropriate action is to round up all conservatives, detain them without charges indefinitely, and torture them.
That’s the only way to protect America, right?
Im not a terrorist or radicalor anything but it is without a doubt that obamas security detail will be remarkably high and i predict a number of attempts i mean or country is in chaos and anything can happen and if we look at history racial assasinations are there every step of the way it will happen and i think someone will be successful i doubt it wont happen before November 20th
“I have little doubt that there are American citizens in Gitmo right now.”
The only U.S. citizens EVER there had been caught on foreign soil in active armed conflict against the U.S.
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that there are no U.S. Citizens there. In spite of you supposition.
Respectfully,
The Squid
“I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that there are no U.S. Citizens there. In spite of you supposition.”
This is just pathetic.
Did you know they tortured a Germany citizen there for three years AFTER they discovered he was not associated with any terrorist. He was merely a tourist who was turned in because the U.S. pays money to anyone who turned in a suspected terrorist, whether or not they had any connections at all. This has happened to British citizens as well. The only reason we know about it, is because their governments fought for the truth.
To think there are no Americans that share a similar story is folly. After all, why would the American government fight for the truth when they are the ones telling the lies?
“To think there are no Americans that share a similar story is folly. After all, why would the American government fight for the truth when they are the ones telling the lies?”
Backing up your assertion that there are U.S. citizens in GTMO by saying that a German citizen and some British citizens were tortured seems to be a little weak.
Have you ever been to GTMO? Several suspected terorists who are U.S. Citizens on U.S. Soil have been arrested and rightly tried in the U.S. Court system. Why should they get such fine treatment when others supposedly do not.
Now if Adam Gadahn or others like him were caught, then he can and should be tried outside the U.S. system, given the same treatment as the irregulars.
Respectfully,
The Squid
…and he was allowed to plead out to 8 years.
Just long enough.
Okay, Squidward, how about he gets “renditioned” to Uzbekistan instead of GTMO?
That would be ok, right?
“Okay, Squidward, how about he gets “renditioned” to Uzbekistan instead of GTMO?
That would be ok, right?”
Nope, come on, I thought you would have figured that out about me by now.
Respectfully,
The Squid
Why would they put US citizens in GItmo? THey have other secret prisons they can put the US citizens in. To back up my assertion, I simply point at the unknown large number of Muslim Americans detained (15000 ) after 9-11. How do we know how many, who, or if they were released?
“Kahle made the statement in April, when he also showed two undercover officers several firearms, including a sniper rifle, two AK-47 assault rifles, and about 5,000 rounds of ammunition, according to the affidavit.
Agents on Sunday found 16 homemade bombs during a search of Kahle’s home, about 80 miles northeast of Pittsburgh, authorities said.
Kahle was charged Tuesday with unlawfully possessing firearms,…”
That needs to be repeated – He had bombs, assault weapons, thousands of rounds of ammunition. He stated he was willing to use them against political leaders. AND HE WAS ONLY CHARGED WITH UNLAWFULLY POSSESSING WEAPONS!?!
Oops, silly me. He wasn’t charged under any terrorist statue because he’s white. Everyone knows only dark-skinned people are terrorists.
“Unlike, say, William Dohrn…”
Who?
I believe you have bungled some elementary facts, Mr. Tea. Put me down as, “stunned.”
“Unlike, say, William Dohrn…”
Correction, Jay, you are embarrasing those of us here to debate. Please either do a Google search before posting, or be quiet.
Respectfully,
The Squid
Right Wing Terror Watch: PA
And yet, nowhere in that article is there any mention or indication that these nutjobs are conservatives or Republicans or “rightwingers”.
But then Oliver has never been one to let facts get in the way of his “99.9% of Conservatives are Evil (and the other 0.1% are just stooopid)” rants. At least he’s consistent in that regard.
come on, I thought you would have figured that out about me by now.
I’m still sniffing you out, but yeah.
However, I really doubt you can say categorically that no US citizens are at GTMO. You don’t know, and neither does anybody else. Except Cheney.
It’s not like the government has been transparent and honest about any of this stuff.
Talk about a handicap.
Huh. Whaddya know about that?
Dave in SoCal comments:
And yet, nowhere in that article is there any mention or indication that these nutjobs are conservatives or Republicans or “rightwingers”.
From the article (part of the part that was part of the frelling blog post you’re commenting on here):
Bradley T. Kahle, 60, of Troutville, was one of five people arrested in last weekend’s sweep. He told undercover agents he hoped Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama would be killed if they were elected president, and that he would shoot judicial and law enforcement officials if he became terminally ill, according to an affidavit of probable cause made public Tuesday.
“Kahle said words to the effect of, that ‘if Hillary Clinton, or Barack Obama, get elected, hopefully they will get assassinated, if not they will disarm the country and we will have a civil war,’” the affidavit stated.
Nope. No indication of a right-wing mindset, or conservative leanings, from Mr. Kahle – except for the stated hope that the Democratic candidate for president gets assassinated if they get elected. Maybe you think these are vindictive Kucinich supporters?
Nope. No indication of a right-wing mindset, or conservative leanings, from Mr. Kahle – except for the stated hope that the Democratic candidate for president gets assassinated if they get elected.
So rather than demonstrate they are conservatives or Republicans with actual facts, you are inferring that they must be because of their stated desire to assassinate the Democratic candidates.
And with your “right-wing mindset, or conservative leanings” statement I see you’re using the same “if they’re racist or sexist, then they must be conservative” narrative that Oliver spends so much time here pushing. One thing the Obama/Clinton battle demonstrated was that the Dems have these issues on their side of the aisle too. Witness all the cries of “racism!” against the Clinton staffers and “sexism!” against the Obama campaign.
Maybe you think these are vindictive Kucinich supporters?
Maybe these are some of those bitter PA Democrats clinging to their guns that Obama talked about at his San Francisco fundraiser. Or maybe they’re radical left-wing nutcases (Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, anyone?) who feel that neither Obama or Clinton are advancing the socialist platform far enough. Who knows? We can guess at their motivations all day long if you’d like.
So rather than demonstrate they are conservatives or Republicans with actual facts, you are inferring that they must be because of their stated desire to assassinate the Democratic candidates.
Why, yes – I am using my brain cells to view the facts I can see and reaching what I believe is a relatively accurate conclusion based on observable evidence.
Maybe these are some of those bitter PA Democrats clinging to their guns that Obama talked about at his San Francisco fundraiser. Or maybe they’re radical left-wing nutcases (Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, anyone?) who feel that neither Obama or Clinton are advancing the socialist platform far enough.
And this sounds very much to me like a Republican’t propaganda catapultist trying to make any excuse in the book that crazy people who want to assassinate a president are Democrats. For some strange reason, I feel that my conclusions are somewhat closer to the reality of the situation than yours.
Sorry I didn’t drop absolutely everything in my life, jaunt down to Troutville, PA, and confirm with absolute certainty that a sixty year old white man who wants to assasinate the president if the Democratic candidate wins the election. I can’t quite place where the reports of this incident said he was a Democrat. I also can’t seem to find any mention of Ayers et al conspiring to murder the prez – regardless of who wins. All I notice is some stretches of the truth by a Republican’t who is bent, bound, and determined to smear Democrats and deflect any impression that Republican’t have ever done anything wrong.
Funny how absolutely everything that is wrong in the world today is due to Democratic supporters when you listen to a Republican’t try and explain things…
Oops! My bad…
Sorry I didn’t drop absolutely everything in my life, jaunt down to Troutville, PA, and confirm with absolute certainty that a sixty year old white man who wants to assasinate the president if the Democratic candidate wins the election.
should be
Sorry I didn’t drop absolutely everything in my life, jaunt down to Troutville, PA, and confirm with absolute certainty that a sixty year old white man who wants to assasinate the president if the Democratic candidate wins the election is a Republican’t.
We apologize for the inconvenience…
One thing the Obama/Clinton battle demonstrated was that the media is intent on promoting the spin that the Dems have these issues on their side of the aisle too. Witness all the cries of “racism!” against the Clinton staffers and “sexism!” against the Obama campaign by the conservative, Republican’t fluffing, mass media.
Fixed that for you…
Why, yes – I am using my brain cells to view the limited facts I can see and reaching what I believe (based on my own biases and prejudices) is a relatively accurate conclusion (in my own mind) based on the limited observable evidence available.
And fixed THAT for you. Ah, your comments make sense now.
All I notice is some stretches of the truth by a Republican’t who is bent, bound, and determined to smear Democrats and deflect any impression that Republican’t have ever done anything wrong.
As noted above, you draw a lot of convenient conclusions based on the limited information available. In your mind, pointing out that “nowhere in that article is there any mention or indication that these nutjobs are conservatives or Republicans” based on Oliver’s factually lacking “Right Wing Terror Watch: PA” post title is somehow equal to “smear Democrats and deflect any impression that Republican’t have ever done anything wrong”. Sure, if you say so.
Sorry I didn’t drop absolutely everything in my life, jaunt down to Troutville, PA, and confirm with absolute certainty that a sixty year old white man who wants to assasinate the president if the Democratic candidate wins the election.
And that would have been an appropriate response had I demanded that you prove that they were conservatives or Republicans. Which I didn’t.
the conservative, Republican’t fluffing, mass media
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… I needed a hearty, gut-busting laugh and that comment supplied it. Thanks!
I hate to ruin your carefully constructed shell, but you may want to read this:
Voters Give Media Failing Grades in Objectivity for Election 2008
Here’s one example from that notoriously right-wing conservative magazine Salon:
The race vs. gender war
“The Democratic race is starting to resemble a compulsory oppressed minorities course taught by political consultants. Let’s stop squabbling and elect the best nominee.”
And I see you are using the ever witty “Republican’t”. SIX times, even! You even took the time to post a correction to add “Republican’t” to one of your postings. What’s wrong? Was “Rethuglican” starting to lose that “zing”, that tingly feeling that ran down your leg every time you used it?
We apologize for the inconvenience…
Who’s this “we”? Do you suffer from multiple personality disorder or are you speaking for all the other commentors here?
“by the conservative, Republican’t fluffing, mass media.”
That is mighty funny. It must have been Chris “Thrill up My Leg” Mathews.
Respectfully,
The Squid
“by the conservative, Republican’t fluffing, mass media.”
That is mighty funny. It must have been Chris “Thrill up My Leg” Mathews.
Respectfully,
The Squid
Well – maybe it could have been Chris “My What a Manly Bulge the president has under that Mission Accomplished banner” Matthews.
Or it could have been Sean ‘b hussein obama is a terrorist’ Hannity.
Or it could have been Rush ‘operation chaos’ Limbaugh.
Or Bill ‘dKos are nazis’ o’reilly.
Or Bill ‘abort all black babies’ Bennett.
Or Ann ‘kill all their men and convert their women and children to christianity’ Coulter.
Or Michelle ‘kerry inflicted his own wounds’ Malkin.
Or the ‘terrorist fist bump’ girl.
Or Tim ‘clinton got a blowjob’ Russert.
I could go on and on, but I think I’ve shown that your selective humor is slightly biased. Funny how that works when you’re dealing with a shameless Republican’t Putsch fellator…
Respectfully,
(: Tom
Why, yes – I am using my brain cells to view the limited facts I can see and reaching what I believe (based on my own biases and prejudices) is a relatively accurate conclusion (in my own mind) based on the limited observable evidence available.
Amazing how you notice that, but the delusional crap you spewed is okey-dokey – even though it is based more on your biases and prejudices than mine is.
I also notice that you have failed to provide any sort of proof that these people were Democrats. Funny how that seems to be okay to base delusional fantasies on…
I could go on and on, but I think I’ve shown that your selective humor is slightly biased.
You rattle off some known right-wing or conservative media people and that therefore proves all the media is “fluffing” for the Republicans? I don’t think so. Try again.
Funny how that works when you’re dealing with a shameless Republican’t Putsch fellator…
Please keep posting. Every time you do you beclown yourself even more. It’s very entertaining.
I also notice that you have failed to provide any sort of proof that these people were Democrats. Funny how that seems to be okay to base delusional fantasies on…
This is hilarious. I’m supposed to provide proof that these nutjobs were Democrats, even though I’m only suggesting they MAY be, not claiming they are, while you can simply apply those amazing brain cells of yours, put two and two together and voila, prove that because their intended targets are Dems that they simply must be Republicans.
There’s some delusion occurring here… and it isn’t on my part.
“Or it could have been Sean ‘b hussein obama is a terrorist’ Hannity.
Or it could have been Rush ‘operation chaos’ Limbaugh.
Or Bill ‘dKos are nazis’ o’reilly.
Or Bill ‘abort all black babies’ Bennett.
Or Ann ‘kill all their men and convert their women and children to christianity’ Coulter.
Or Michelle ‘kerry inflicted his own wounds’ Malkin.”
Since you have named exactly one actual journalist and a bunch of entertainers, I am underwhelmed.
Does that mean Randi Rhoads, Mike Malloy, Al Franken, Bob Beckel, etc can be considered too?
Respectfully,
The Squid
“Funny how that works when you’re dealing with a shameless Republican’t Putsch fellator…”
Cute nicknames and gay jokes to not an argument make.
Respectfully,
The Squid
Or the ‘terrorist fist bump’ girl.
Does ‘terrorist fist bump’ girl have a name, or is she just ‘girl’? That sounds very sexist of you, Tom.
If you’re going to use these lame examples, the least you can do is spend 10 seconds doing a google search to learn that her name is E.D. Hill. And by the way, the show she anchored, America’s Pulse, was canceled just days after her “fist jab” comment.
Hey but don’t forget about that “said something bad about Democrats” guy. He’s obviously a Republican’t fluffer too!
Or Bill ‘abort all black babies’ Bennett.
Again your ignorance is not surprising.
Here is the actual transcript from Bennett’s radio show in which he and a caller were discussing the book Freakanomics, which makes the statement that one of the reasons the crime is down is that the abortion rate is up:
BENNETT: …I would not argue for the pro-life position based on this… [I]t cuts both [ways]—you know. One of the arguments in this book Freakonomics that they make is… that one of the reasons crime is down is that abortion is up. Well-
CALLER: -Well, I don’t think that statistic is accurate.
BENNETT: Well, I don’t think it is either,… But I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could … abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do… So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.
The part in italics is what had the panties of you (and most every other Democrat in this country) in a bunch. The part in bold is the rest of his statement that clearly shows he was taking the Freakonomics position to an extreme to show how ridiculous it is. This was conveniently ignored. In no way was he advocating the killing of black babies.
And no, I’m not a fan of Bennett nor have I ever listened to his show (or Limbaugh for that matter) or care to.
But this is the kind of context that were told is so important to consider when Obama speaks (remember his “clinging to guns & religion” speech?), but is cheerfully ignored by the left when they want to be selectively outraged (like McCain’s statement that “100 years in Iraq is OK… as long as NO Americans are being hurt or killed“).
To Democrats, context only seems to apply if the person speaking leans left politically.
Since you have named exactly one actual journalist and a bunch of entertainers, I am underwhelmed.
Almost as underwhelmed as I am with your blinkered view of the media.
No, I didn’t mention David Broder, David Brooks, the entire staff at townhall, Hugh Hewitt, Krauthammer, the editorial staff of the Wall Street Journal, or any of the gazillion and one members of the media parroting Republican’t propaganda. Consider me underwhelmed with your biased viewpoints as well.
Respectfully,
T:)M
Dave in SoCal
Or the ‘terrorist fist bump’ girl.
Does ‘terrorist fist bump’ girl have a name, or is she just ‘girl’? That sounds very sexist of you, Tom.
Gee – I’m sorry that I didn’t spend as much time as you think I should have in investigating one of the hundreds of Republican’t propaganda spewing media types that inundate the airwaves. Generally speaking, I don’t waste a heck of a lot of my time in Republican’t snipe hunts.
Maybe you can find some other non-Republican’ts, and try and get them to run around disproving the unending stream of conservative misinformation in the mainstream media each day…
“No, I didn’t mention David Broder, David Brooks, the entire staff at townhall, Hugh Hewitt, Krauthammer, the editorial staff of the Wall Street Journal, or any of the gazillion and one members of the media parroting Republican’t propaganda. ”
Since you still have only names editorial board columnists and radio host, you still have failed to mention a single actual member of the media who is a Republican Shill.
Columnists are supposed to have opinions, that is their job.
For the record, I dont think that there is a real bias from either side, I think that they do whatever will get them ratings and gin up readership. The problem is that they get shoddier every year. You seem to be confused between the concepts of journalist vs columnist. None of he people you mentioned (with the exception of E.D. Hill, the “fist bump girl”) make any secret of their leanings, that is because they are used to express a certain opinion, that is their job. They host conservative talk shows or when they appear on CNN etc they are identified as conservative commentators.
O’Reilly hosts a news magazine, he is not expected to be a journalist any more than Keith Olberman.
Hannity is half of a Conservative vs Liberal talk show which is clearly labeled as such.
Do you see my point now? Or am I still to “bekinderd” in my view?
Respectfully,
The Squid
Since you still have only names editorial board columnists and radio host, you still have failed to mention a single actual member of the media who is a Republican Shill.
Ah – the No True Scotsman argument. Why is it that I’m thinking that anyone I would try and name would not be considered a journalist by you?
Funny – the one example you gave of a liberal journalist was Chris Matthews. I’m trying to figure out how his journalistic credentials are better than anyone I’ve mentioned. I’m also trying to figure out how one (unbelievably stupid) comment about Barack Obama makes him a liberal, after all of the (equally unbelievably stupid) comments about Putsch don’t make him a conservative. Perhaps you could explain it to me?
Do you see my point now? Or am I still to “bekinderd” in my view?
I see a disingenuous Republican’t who is desperately trying to toss anything they can into the discussion on the hopes that this will somehow make your biased viewpoints seem reasonable and objective. Considering the source, I can’t see how this will change.
Respectfully,
M
T
Shorter Tom:
“Gee, Sorry, I don’t feel the need to back up my lame, ridiculous and partisan claims with any actual facts. Maybe you should find some other Democrat-smearing propaganda-spewing Republican’t Putsch fellator to do my job for you.”
You’ve accomplished one thing, Tom. My respect for most of the other commentors here has gone up dramatically. You know, the ones who at least try to back up their claims or points with facts, reasoned logic and legitimate arguments? Well done!