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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100088</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farris, in English: &quot;So what if Bush went begging to the Saudis and they made him their punk. Ted Kennedy!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farris, in English: &#8220;So what if Bush went begging to the Saudis and they made him their punk. Ted Kennedy!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100073</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris: &quot;He shoulda been “jawbone”-ing Kennedy, Clinton, Durbin, and all the other Democratics who are holding up domestic drilling.&quot;

There&#039;s not enough oil in all of American to change the supply / demand chart. The only way to drop oil prices at this point is to reduce demand. This means finding alternate energy sources or reducing demand. Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris: &#8220;He shoulda been “jawbone”-ing Kennedy, Clinton, Durbin, and all the other Democratics who are holding up domestic drilling.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not enough oil in all of American to change the supply / demand chart. The only way to drop oil prices at this point is to reduce demand. This means finding alternate energy sources or reducing demand. Simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: Squid Shark</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100070</link>
		<dc:creator>Squid Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reenhard, 
I would imagine more than 3 individuals would be required to make a statistic trend. But I will do some more digging and let you know what I find, deal? Initial response still holds however.

Respectfully, 
The Squid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reenhard,<br />
I would imagine more than 3 individuals would be required to make a statistic trend. But I will do some more digging and let you know what I find, deal? Initial response still holds however.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
The Squid</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100063</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squid - I already listed three specific examples in my initial post in this thread.  Let me know how many more you require for you deem the matter statistically significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squid &#8211; I already listed three specific examples in my initial post in this thread.  Let me know how many more you require for you deem the matter statistically significant.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100058</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how opening up ANWR and other places to drilling will result in a magical increase in our production capacity, which is currently working its ass off to make all the gas and diesel it can.  I also wonder why the ability to go into the area and get the right to drill would immediately make oil companies want to drill right away as soon as they find any oil.  What we&#039;d be doing is allowing companies to explore and make claims on oil fields, not giving them a mandate to start drilling.  If I owned an oil company and had that deal, sure I&#039;d be glad to be able to go in and make claims.  But I sure as hell wouldn&#039;t see much value in immediate drilling.  Oil&#039;s going to get more valuable, not less.  Having a future supply, especially if tankers will soon be able to travel throughout the Arctic since all the ice is melting and getting to it will be easier in the future anyhow, would be enough incentive to not start immediate drilling.

In the meantime, the oil in the ground belongs to the American people.  If we really think that right now is a good time to let it belong to oil companies to sell to us later, then go ahead and open up ANWR.  But if you understand basic math, economics, future needs, our dependence on oil, and the fact that Alaska will still be there in the coming decades, I can strongly advocate doing nothing with our oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how opening up ANWR and other places to drilling will result in a magical increase in our production capacity, which is currently working its ass off to make all the gas and diesel it can.  I also wonder why the ability to go into the area and get the right to drill would immediately make oil companies want to drill right away as soon as they find any oil.  What we&#8217;d be doing is allowing companies to explore and make claims on oil fields, not giving them a mandate to start drilling.  If I owned an oil company and had that deal, sure I&#8217;d be glad to be able to go in and make claims.  But I sure as hell wouldn&#8217;t see much value in immediate drilling.  Oil&#8217;s going to get more valuable, not less.  Having a future supply, especially if tankers will soon be able to travel throughout the Arctic since all the ice is melting and getting to it will be easier in the future anyhow, would be enough incentive to not start immediate drilling.</p>
<p>In the meantime, the oil in the ground belongs to the American people.  If we really think that right now is a good time to let it belong to oil companies to sell to us later, then go ahead and open up ANWR.  But if you understand basic math, economics, future needs, our dependence on oil, and the fact that Alaska will still be there in the coming decades, I can strongly advocate doing nothing with our oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100052</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everyone keep feeding the trolls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everyone keep feeding the trolls?</p>
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		<title>By: Squid Shark</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100046</link>
		<dc:creator>Squid Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repack,
Exactly, that was this part. 

&quot;The commentary on the existence of an intemediate status is a little contradictory&quot;

I believe that they are from two different opinions, but I cant be sure right now.

As I said before, from a moral standpoint, I support ending waterboarding and closing GTMO, however, I am of the opinion that it is legal.

Respectfully,
The Squid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repack,<br />
Exactly, that was this part. </p>
<p>&#8220;The commentary on the existence of an intemediate status is a little contradictory&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe that they are from two different opinions, but I cant be sure right now.</p>
<p>As I said before, from a moral standpoint, I support ending waterboarding and closing GTMO, however, I am of the opinion that it is legal.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
The Squid</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100029</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suid,

Interesting that you would quote the International Committee of the Red Cross.  Let me quote them a little more, since you seem to value that source.

&quot;Every person in enemy hands must have some status under international law: he is either a prisoner of war and, as such, covered by the Third Convention, a civilian covered by the Fourth Convention, or again, a member of the medical personnel of the armed forces who is covered by the First Convention. &lt;b&gt;There is no intermediate status; nobody in enemy hands can be outside the law. We feel that this is a satisfactory solution – not only satisfying to the mind, but also, and above all, satisfactory from the humanitarian point of view.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;

My emphasis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suid,</p>
<p>Interesting that you would quote the International Committee of the Red Cross.  Let me quote them a little more, since you seem to value that source.</p>
<p>&#8220;Every person in enemy hands must have some status under international law: he is either a prisoner of war and, as such, covered by the Third Convention, a civilian covered by the Fourth Convention, or again, a member of the medical personnel of the armed forces who is covered by the First Convention. <b>There is no intermediate status; nobody in enemy hands can be outside the law. We feel that this is a satisfactory solution – not only satisfying to the mind, but also, and above all, satisfactory from the humanitarian point of view.</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>My emphasis.</p>
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		<title>By: Squid Shark</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100009</link>
		<dc:creator>Squid Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How so? Because you say so? Please point out where any president in the last half-century at least has done more than Bush to insure that the civil services are staffed with incompetents who place loyalty to party over loyalty to country.&quot;

You still have yet to prove that this is the case. I can not discount something not verified by anything but your own opinion. Are you able to divine the compitency of those who fill civil service positions in each area of government?

You must bo prolific.

Your argument about the age of my reference is as shallow as Oliver criticising McCain for referenceing Carter. My point was that this problem has been ongoing since the begining of the Republic.

Respectfully,
The Squid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How so? Because you say so? Please point out where any president in the last half-century at least has done more than Bush to insure that the civil services are staffed with incompetents who place loyalty to party over loyalty to country.&#8221;</p>
<p>You still have yet to prove that this is the case. I can not discount something not verified by anything but your own opinion. Are you able to divine the compitency of those who fill civil service positions in each area of government?</p>
<p>You must bo prolific.</p>
<p>Your argument about the age of my reference is as shallow as Oliver criticising McCain for referenceing Carter. My point was that this problem has been ongoing since the begining of the Republic.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
The Squid</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100003</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats, Reinhard.  Comment #10,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats, Reinhard.  Comment #10,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-100000</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This seems to be a misreading of history. Civil service “penetration” has been an issue for the entire scope of this nations existence. It was so bad the civil service reform was a major campaign issue for the entire period between the end of Reconstruction and the Spanish American War.&quot;

Squid - let us restrict ourselves to stuff within at least my grandparents&#039; lifetimes, shall we?  A misreading of history?  How so?  Because you say so?  Please point out where any president in the last half-century at least has done more than Bush to insure that the civil services are staffed with incompetents who place loyalty to party over loyalty to country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This seems to be a misreading of history. Civil service “penetration” has been an issue for the entire scope of this nations existence. It was so bad the civil service reform was a major campaign issue for the entire period between the end of Reconstruction and the Spanish American War.&#8221;</p>
<p>Squid &#8211; let us restrict ourselves to stuff within at least my grandparents&#8217; lifetimes, shall we?  A misreading of history?  How so?  Because you say so?  Please point out where any president in the last half-century at least has done more than Bush to insure that the civil services are staffed with incompetents who place loyalty to party over loyalty to country.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99991</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He worried that such a probe could be spun as &quot;a partisan witch hunt.&quot; However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because &quot;nobody is above the law.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why would anyone object to that? Doesn&#039;t say anything about war crimes. Any of that would be up to the Hague, anyway. We&#039;re talking about criminality at the White House. If there is shown to be willful criminal acts, those responsible need to be held to account, regardless of party.
Tell me what is wrong with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He worried that such a probe could be spun as &#8220;a partisan witch hunt.&#8221; However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because &#8220;nobody is above the law.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Why would anyone object to that? Doesn&#8217;t say anything about war crimes. Any of that would be up to the Hague, anyway. We&#8217;re talking about criminality at the White House. If there is shown to be willful criminal acts, those responsible need to be held to account, regardless of party.<br />
Tell me what is wrong with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Squid Shark</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99986</link>
		<dc:creator>Squid Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Geneva Convention covers EVERYONE, no exceptions, captured during wartime. If you believe that some categories of prisoners are not covered, quote the appropriate passage from the Convention to me in your response, which will not happen because you are wrong.&quot;

The persons at GTMO are not considered prisoners of war under the Third Geneva Convention. The also nullify their status as civilians under the 4th Geneva Convention.

The commentary on the existence of an intemediate status is a little contradictory but this seems very telling:

&quot;If civilians directly engage in hostilities, they are considered &quot;unlawful&quot; or &quot;unprivileged&quot; combatants or belligerents (the treaties of humanitarian law do not expressly contain these terms). They may be prosecuted under the domestic law of the detaining state for such action. Both lawful and unlawful combatants may be interned in wartime, may be interrogated and may be prosecuted for war crimes. Both are entitled to humane treatment in the hands of the enemy.&quot; 

For the record, I support closing GTMO.

Respectfully,
The Squid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Geneva Convention covers EVERYONE, no exceptions, captured during wartime. If you believe that some categories of prisoners are not covered, quote the appropriate passage from the Convention to me in your response, which will not happen because you are wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>The persons at GTMO are not considered prisoners of war under the Third Geneva Convention. The also nullify their status as civilians under the 4th Geneva Convention.</p>
<p>The commentary on the existence of an intemediate status is a little contradictory but this seems very telling:</p>
<p>&#8220;If civilians directly engage in hostilities, they are considered &#8220;unlawful&#8221; or &#8220;unprivileged&#8221; combatants or belligerents (the treaties of humanitarian law do not expressly contain these terms). They may be prosecuted under the domestic law of the detaining state for such action. Both lawful and unlawful combatants may be interned in wartime, may be interrogated and may be prosecuted for war crimes. Both are entitled to humane treatment in the hands of the enemy.&#8221; </p>
<p>For the record, I support closing GTMO.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
The Squid</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99971</link>
		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem that Jay has is if you accept his evaluation at face value, it falls down flat because there is no independent process to challenge the unilateral decision of the US to categorize this prisoner or that prisoner as exempt from Geneva protections.  That means that any signatory can declare anyone at any time to be exempt from protections simply by slapping a label on them and declaring them to be so.

For instance:

The US pays bounties for prisoners turned over as terrorists.  The US in no way verifies or establishes the prisoner as a terrorist itself, but instead relies on the word of the bounty hunter.  This has led to prisoners mistreated that turn out to be innocent and turned in simply for the money or personal motives of the bounty hunter.


There is no appeals process and no way to challenge the arbitrary classification.  Without it, accepting Jay&#039;s interpretation, the US faces the potential of (and reality of)  breaking the conventions by torturing or mistreating civilians and other prisoners of war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem that Jay has is if you accept his evaluation at face value, it falls down flat because there is no independent process to challenge the unilateral decision of the US to categorize this prisoner or that prisoner as exempt from Geneva protections.  That means that any signatory can declare anyone at any time to be exempt from protections simply by slapping a label on them and declaring them to be so.</p>
<p>For instance:</p>
<p>The US pays bounties for prisoners turned over as terrorists.  The US in no way verifies or establishes the prisoner as a terrorist itself, but instead relies on the word of the bounty hunter.  This has led to prisoners mistreated that turn out to be innocent and turned in simply for the money or personal motives of the bounty hunter.</p>
<p>There is no appeals process and no way to challenge the arbitrary classification.  Without it, accepting Jay&#8217;s interpretation, the US faces the potential of (and reality of)  breaking the conventions by torturing or mistreating civilians and other prisoners of war.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99965</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He shoulda been &quot;jawbone&quot;-ing Kennedy, Clinton, Durbin, and all the other Democratics who are holding up domestic drilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He shoulda been &#8220;jawbone&#8221;-ing Kennedy, Clinton, Durbin, and all the other Democratics who are holding up domestic drilling.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99959</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Farris,

Way back when gas was a buck and a half a gallon, your boy Bush said he would go &quot;jawbone&quot; the Saudis to open up the spigots.

How&#039;d that work out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Farris,</p>
<p>Way back when gas was a buck and a half a gallon, your boy Bush said he would go &#8220;jawbone&#8221; the Saudis to open up the spigots.</p>
<p>How&#8217;d that work out?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99957</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;How about the government really has no effective power over the econoomy,&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Really?

The government has no control over its budget? Over spending? Over our trade imbalance? Interest rates?

If you think that, then you must also believe that none of these things have an effect on the exchange value of the dollar against world currencies. Or that the value of the dollar has any relation to the state of the economy.

Fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;How about the government really has no effective power over the econoomy,&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>The government has no control over its budget? Over spending? Over our trade imbalance? Interest rates?</p>
<p>If you think that, then you must also believe that none of these things have an effect on the exchange value of the dollar against world currencies. Or that the value of the dollar has any relation to the state of the economy.</p>
<p>Fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99954</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, Bush still called the shots for the vast majority of the last 7 years and we live with his policies today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, Bush still called the shots for the vast majority of the last 7 years and we live with his policies today.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99948</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I am mistaken. The Supreme Court overturned that decision. The Military Commissions Act is what came from that ruling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I am mistaken. The Supreme Court overturned that decision. The Military Commissions Act is what came from that ruling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/06/10/advice-for-conservatives/#comment-99937</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Geneva Convention covers EVERYONE, no exceptions, captured during wartime. If you believe that some categories of prisoners are not covered, quote the appropriate passage from the Convention to me in your response, which will not happen because you are wrong.&lt;/i&gt;

The Geneva Convention does not apply to Al Qaida and its members. There was a federal appeals court ruling about this in regard to the military tribunals the Bush administration established for Gitmo detainees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Geneva Convention covers EVERYONE, no exceptions, captured during wartime. If you believe that some categories of prisoners are not covered, quote the appropriate passage from the Convention to me in your response, which will not happen because you are wrong.</i></p>
<p>The Geneva Convention does not apply to Al Qaida and its members. There was a federal appeals court ruling about this in regard to the military tribunals the Bush administration established for Gitmo detainees.</p>
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