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		<title>By: A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; Punish Me Again Mistress</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/29/i-know-this-is-mostly-useless-i-have-an-addiction-to-pain/#comment-97370</link>
		<dc:creator>A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; Punish Me Again Mistress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in 2003, even though he&#8217;s on record at the time opposing it. A matter well dealt with by Oliver Willis&#8230;even if thereby he had to confess his masochism for reading Marsh. Funny.  addthis_url = [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in 2003, even though he&#8217;s on record at the time opposing it. A matter well dealt with by Oliver Willis&#8230;even if thereby he had to confess his masochism for reading Marsh. Funny.  addthis_url = [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/29/i-know-this-is-mostly-useless-i-have-an-addiction-to-pain/#comment-97027</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...there’s no proof that Obama would &lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;have voted his conscience if given the chance.&lt;/i&gt;

Fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;there’s no proof that Obama would </i><b>not</b><i>have voted his conscience if given the chance.</i></p>
<p>Fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
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		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 05:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the Democrats in the combined House-Senate voted against authorizing little bushie to embark on his mission of  accomplishment. Hillary should have gone with what the majority of her party were thinking at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the Democrats in the combined House-Senate voted against authorizing little bushie to embark on his mission of  accomplishment. Hillary should have gone with what the majority of her party were thinking at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Everyone on here who is implying that Obama secretly supported the war because he voted for the war funding is nuts.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s not what most of them are saying. There&#039;s some truth to the statement that sitting Senators are under different pressure than people criticizing them from the sidelines, and there&#039;s no proof that Obama would have voted his conscience if given the chance.

That said, that&#039;s an argument that you make if you want to be exceedingly charitable to the candidate who voted for the war. And I don&#039;t see any reason to be charitable to Clinton in the slightest anymore. She voted wrong, she campaigned wrong, and she&#039;s even being ungracious in defeat. She&#039;s lost to Obama, she&#039;s compromised her advantages over him in the general election (whatever the polls may say this week), and yet we still have to hear about her antics every goddamned day. I&#039;m ashamed to have shaken her hand once, let alone voted for her twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Everyone on here who is implying that Obama secretly supported the war because he voted for the war funding is nuts.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what most of them are saying. There&#8217;s some truth to the statement that sitting Senators are under different pressure than people criticizing them from the sidelines, and there&#8217;s no proof that Obama would have voted his conscience if given the chance.</p>
<p>That said, that&#8217;s an argument that you make if you want to be exceedingly charitable to the candidate who voted for the war. And I don&#8217;t see any reason to be charitable to Clinton in the slightest anymore. She voted wrong, she campaigned wrong, and she&#8217;s even being ungracious in defeat. She&#8217;s lost to Obama, she&#8217;s compromised her advantages over him in the general election (whatever the polls may say this week), and yet we still have to hear about her antics every goddamned day. I&#8217;m ashamed to have shaken her hand once, let alone voted for her twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How many times has Sen Obama voted no on funding for the war?&lt;/i&gt;

Every one of those provisional spending bills contained a method of bringing troops home and ending the occupation. I would have voted or them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How many times has Sen Obama voted no on funding for the war?</i></p>
<p>Every one of those provisional spending bills contained a method of bringing troops home and ending the occupation. I would have voted or them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton was the last Presidential candidate I voted FOR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton was the last Presidential candidate I voted FOR.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When do you suppose that the Hillary supporters will give it up?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m thinking sometime in the middle of December.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When do you suppose that the Hillary supporters will give it up?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking sometime in the middle of December.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>westchesterdead: &lt;i&gt;In fact, he is the first presidential candidate in my adult life that I actually want to vote FOR, rather than casting a vote against the lesser of two evils (I have been voting since 1983).&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve only ever voted FOR presidential candiates, but Obama is the first one that I&#039;ll vot for who has a decent chance of winning.  I refuse to vote FOR an evil, even a lesser one.  So most of my presidential votes have not gone to a nominee from one of the major parties.  Only happened once before and that was 1992 when I gladly voted for Bill Clinton.  Alas, not something I could do again in &#039;96.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>westchesterdead: <i>In fact, he is the first presidential candidate in my adult life that I actually want to vote FOR, rather than casting a vote against the lesser of two evils (I have been voting since 1983).</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only ever voted FOR presidential candiates, but Obama is the first one that I&#8217;ll vot for who has a decent chance of winning.  I refuse to vote FOR an evil, even a lesser one.  So most of my presidential votes have not gone to a nominee from one of the major parties.  Only happened once before and that was 1992 when I gladly voted for Bill Clinton.  Alas, not something I could do again in &#8216;96.</p>
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		<title>By: BowChikaBowBow</title>
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		<dc:creator>BowChikaBowBow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone on here who is implying that Obama secretly supported the war because he voted for the war funding is nuts. Obama is on record saying in 2004 that he opposed a pull out of our troops from Iraq. Even Howard Dean had that same position in 2004 and nobody questioned whether he was secretly for the war. He, like Obama, said time and time again that he was for internationalizing the occupation but not for a pullout. Now that it is obvious that things are not going to turn out good there at all.  

Here is video of Obama chatting with Dean about Iraq back in 2003 and Dean clearly says he is not for withdrawal but rather internationalization. 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jxwsdREgohY&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone on here who is implying that Obama secretly supported the war because he voted for the war funding is nuts. Obama is on record saying in 2004 that he opposed a pull out of our troops from Iraq. Even Howard Dean had that same position in 2004 and nobody questioned whether he was secretly for the war. He, like Obama, said time and time again that he was for internationalizing the occupation but not for a pullout. Now that it is obvious that things are not going to turn out good there at all.  </p>
<p>Here is video of Obama chatting with Dean about Iraq back in 2003 and Dean clearly says he is not for withdrawal but rather internationalization. </p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=jxwsdREgohY&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=jxwsdREgohY&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
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		<dc:creator>mambochicken23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am getting so sick of this bullshit.  It&#039;s so tiresome.  When do you suppose that the Hillary supporters will give it up?  I&#039;d love to know ahead of time so I can schedule a day off to celebrate...


Quaker: LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting so sick of this bullshit.  It&#8217;s so tiresome.  When do you suppose that the Hillary supporters will give it up?  I&#8217;d love to know ahead of time so I can schedule a day off to celebrate&#8230;</p>
<p>Quaker: LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Crusty Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusty Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is, that while I&#039;m a 35+ year old man who&#039;s slow as molasses, there&#039;s no reason to think I wouldn&#039;t defeat Big Brown in the Preakness, if given the opportunity. 

I&#039;m a big fan of &quot;The reality is..&quot;, it makes almost anything possible. Thank you Taylor Marsh (and fafaroo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is, that while I&#8217;m a 35+ year old man who&#8217;s slow as molasses, there&#8217;s no reason to think I wouldn&#8217;t defeat Big Brown in the Preakness, if given the opportunity. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of &#8220;The reality is..&#8221;, it makes almost anything possible. Thank you Taylor Marsh (and fafaroo).</p>
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		<title>By: mike in dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike in dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will get much, much worse in the next week or two before it gets better.  I don&#039;t think it will truly improve that much until Clinton formally concedes the race.  Then there&#039;s really no return on investment to attacking Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will get much, much worse in the next week or two before it gets better.  I don&#8217;t think it will truly improve that much until Clinton formally concedes the race.  Then there&#8217;s really no return on investment to attacking Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best part about that sentence is the first three words: &quot;The reality is ...&quot; 

The reality is, however, that though I&#039;m not a doctor with any medical or science training, there is no evidence whatsoever that I won&#039;t discover a cure for cancer while making French Toast in my kitchen. So I deserve federal funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part about that sentence is the first three words: &#8220;The reality is &#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>The reality is, however, that though I&#8217;m not a doctor with any medical or science training, there is no evidence whatsoever that I won&#8217;t discover a cure for cancer while making French Toast in my kitchen. So I deserve federal funding.</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taylor Marsh is hacktaculously horrible in her smear campaign against Sen. Obama.  On the one hand Marsh says that she will support the eventual nominee and is a Democrat first but on the other hand she viciously attacks Sen. Obama and ramps up her &quot;Marshans&quot; to hate Obama.

Frankly, I think it&#039;s best to ignore her.  The less attention paid to her the better to squeeze out any hopes she has of making a bigger name for herself on the national scene.  

Face it, Marsh wants to be another Ann Coulter.  But as evil and twisted as Coulter is, Coulter is focused on the bottom lines:  electing Republicans and making money.  Coulter has kept her mouth shut and not attacked McCain as soon as it became apparent he would be the nominee.  She looked at the long term view of her party and her pocketbook knowing not to become the source of damage to McCain.

Marsh continues to assault Obama.  Recently, Marsh featured a cartoon of Obama as Marie Antoinette wearing a dress.  The cartoon was both sexist and homophobic in that continued the lie that Marie Antoinette was a villain, that there is something wrong with femininity, and the implied attack on Obama&#039;s masculinity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor Marsh is hacktaculously horrible in her smear campaign against Sen. Obama.  On the one hand Marsh says that she will support the eventual nominee and is a Democrat first but on the other hand she viciously attacks Sen. Obama and ramps up her &#8220;Marshans&#8221; to hate Obama.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think it&#8217;s best to ignore her.  The less attention paid to her the better to squeeze out any hopes she has of making a bigger name for herself on the national scene.  </p>
<p>Face it, Marsh wants to be another Ann Coulter.  But as evil and twisted as Coulter is, Coulter is focused on the bottom lines:  electing Republicans and making money.  Coulter has kept her mouth shut and not attacked McCain as soon as it became apparent he would be the nominee.  She looked at the long term view of her party and her pocketbook knowing not to become the source of damage to McCain.</p>
<p>Marsh continues to assault Obama.  Recently, Marsh featured a cartoon of Obama as Marie Antoinette wearing a dress.  The cartoon was both sexist and homophobic in that continued the lie that Marie Antoinette was a villain, that there is something wrong with femininity, and the implied attack on Obama&#8217;s masculinity.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vanessa:
Don&#039;t forget, Bob Graham(then a Senator from Florida, and who voted against the AUMF) advised Hillary to read the NIE.  As you might remember, it was reading the NIE that made Graham very uneasy and made him vote against the AUMF.  And you know what Hillary did?  She did not read the NIE.  Fitting, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanessa:<br />
Don&#8217;t forget, Bob Graham(then a Senator from Florida, and who voted against the AUMF) advised Hillary to read the NIE.  As you might remember, it was reading the NIE that made Graham very uneasy and made him vote against the AUMF.  And you know what Hillary did?  She did not read the NIE.  Fitting, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this sentence:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;though Clinton voted for the war, there is no evidence whatsoever that Obama would have voted against the war in Iraq if he were a senator at the time&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Though Led Zeppelin recorded &quot;Stairway to Heaven,&quot; there is no evidence whatsoever that Buddy Holly would have recorded listenable music if he had survived that plane crash.

Though the Texas Rangers traded Sammy Sosa, there is no evidence whatsoever that the Chicago Cubs would have offered Babe Ruth a contract if he were alive at the time.

Though the Coca Cola company introduced a disasterous reformulation of its product, there is no evidence whatsoever that Pepsico could have created an elixir of perpetual youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this sentence:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;though Clinton voted for the war, there is no evidence whatsoever that Obama would have voted against the war in Iraq if he were a senator at the time&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Though Led Zeppelin recorded &#8220;Stairway to Heaven,&#8221; there is no evidence whatsoever that Buddy Holly would have recorded listenable music if he had survived that plane crash.</p>
<p>Though the Texas Rangers traded Sammy Sosa, there is no evidence whatsoever that the Chicago Cubs would have offered Babe Ruth a contract if he were alive at the time.</p>
<p>Though the Coca Cola company introduced a disasterous reformulation of its product, there is no evidence whatsoever that Pepsico could have created an elixir of perpetual youth.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver,

Can you please email this post to Taylor Marsh?  Her comment blows my mind. My mind is now falling off the ceiling in little gray/red jelly blobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver,</p>
<p>Can you please email this post to Taylor Marsh?  Her comment blows my mind. My mind is now falling off the ceiling in little gray/red jelly blobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve LaBonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve LaBonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is that it&#039;s a lot harder to get out of a war than into one. That&#039;s why you shouldn&#039;t start stupid wars. Well, that and the utter immorality of doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is that it&#8217;s a lot harder to get out of a war than into one. That&#8217;s why you shouldn&#8217;t start stupid wars. Well, that and the utter immorality of doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note on voting &quot;no&quot; against the funding. Who do you think feels it first if the military fails to receive adequate funding in the combat zone?

I remember being very indignant about the &quot;purse-strings&quot; theory of Congressional war protest, but over time I&#039;ve come to think: the truth is that ending the war is a two-part process. Congress can agree to stop funding it, but the Executive then has to agree that the operation is over and the troops are coming home.

Bush is so fully on tilt now that he would leave our troops over there with nothing but sticks and rocks just to prove his &quot;conviction&quot; to the cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note on voting &#8220;no&#8221; against the funding. Who do you think feels it first if the military fails to receive adequate funding in the combat zone?</p>
<p>I remember being very indignant about the &#8220;purse-strings&#8221; theory of Congressional war protest, but over time I&#8217;ve come to think: the truth is that ending the war is a two-part process. Congress can agree to stop funding it, but the Executive then has to agree that the operation is over and the troops are coming home.</p>
<p>Bush is so fully on tilt now that he would leave our troops over there with nothing but sticks and rocks just to prove his &#8220;conviction&#8221; to the cause.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funding is a separate issue.  I do think it&#039;s fair to at least conjecture that had Obama been in the Senate at the time he would have been under a different sort of pressure to support the war.  I don&#039;t think that thought carries much weight though because it seems unlikely that an opposing vote would sit badly with his constituency (at the time).  It may also be that Obama has some integrity.  Possibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funding is a separate issue.  I do think it&#8217;s fair to at least conjecture that had Obama been in the Senate at the time he would have been under a different sort of pressure to support the war.  I don&#8217;t think that thought carries much weight though because it seems unlikely that an opposing vote would sit badly with his constituency (at the time).  It may also be that Obama has some integrity.  Possibly.</p>
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