Code words? Which words did you have difficulty with, dear? Maybe your problem understanding those words can be traced to something other than the fact that you’re white.

Got it.

Fine. Tell us why. And please limit your answers to actual things that happened or positions you disagree with. Please refrain from personal attacks or baseless emails you may have received.
I’m a reasonable guy, and I’d really like to know.

Well, no, I don’t throw up a little, but it makes me sad. It makes me shut my computer down because I just can’t stand to watch train wrecks in slo-mo.
It makes me sad when my sister-in-law tells me how EVIL Michelle Obama is, not even noticing the irony of her die-hard right-wing friends who have repeatedly said the same thing about Hillary over the last 12 years.
I agree whole heartedly with you, Fafaroo. I have done my research, I have read all three candidates web sites and positions on the issue. Some I agree with, some I don’t, but when I balance it all out, Obama comes up with more in the pro side for me.
Electability is not the issue. I’m not so much concerned with what happens in November as I am what happens in January and beyond.

I just wish there was a way to talk some of these folks off the ledge.

So much for country before party. I would say you deserve the government you get, but I don’t.

To Clinton supporters: It’s fine that you support Hillary. Really. It is. We should be able to disagree with relative amicability on our choice of candidate. However, it is NOT acceptable to buy into the bullshit that has been said about the Obama campaign, much less repeat it as though it were gospel. For the love of God, please think about whether stuff like the Rev. Wright “situation” matters, or whether a single statement from Michelle Obama matters, or whether your perception of unfair media coverage towards Hillary matters with respect to your choice on whether to vote for Barack Obama for President, should he win the nomination. I would submit to you that you CANNOT hold Barack Obama responsible for the words uttered by other people, nor for the media’s coverage of this primary season.

Do not let your disappointment at your candidate’s loss color your perception of Obama. Think rationally about him as a candidate. Judge him on his merits vs. McCain. Don’t vote for McCain out of spite… that’s gotta be the worst reason ever to vote for a candidate. Just put aside your anger for just 10 minutes, do some research, and think critically. Please.

What color is the sky in your reality, Joe?
You should probably do a modicum of research on the subject so you have the slightest shred of knowing what your’e talking about.

I just don’t understand this kind of argument in favor of Clinton over Obama. Not nly is it total bullshit, it’s a conservative smear of Obama that Clinton supporters have glommed on to in their desperation.

Do Clinton supporters actually believe that if she were the nominee, conservatives wouldn’t paint her with the same brush that they are now slathering all over Obama? Have you all learned nothing from the last two decades of national politics?

Before Obama was a threat to Clinton, back in the fall of last year, the right wing media machine was gearing up to bash Clinton as the most liberal, communistic, anti-American threat to the nation that we had ever known. Were any of you Clinton supporters listening to Sean Hannity’s radio show in January? He devoted whole shows to painting Clinton as being to the left of Hugo Chavez. The only hitch along the way to the full tilt bashing of Clinton as a traitor in the fall was Obama emerging as a leading contender. Slowly but surely, the right got the message and turned its sights on him. The name was different but the message was the same: Obama was now the most liberal, communistic, anti-American threat to the nation that we had ever known.

If Clinton were to end up the nominee, the next minute the right would start filling the airwaves and print with how she was the most extreme, anti-American candidate the Democratic party had ever fielded. Clinton supporters would find themselves trying to fend off the very same smear tactics that they have now so heartily endorsed to attack Obama.

Trust me. In the eyes of the right wing, it isn’t just Obama that “does not love America.” It’s every democrat to the left of Joe Lieberman. And Clinton supporters have fallen for the bullshit hook line and sinker.

So, you’re going to vote for McCain not because of anything Obama said, but because of what a blog commenter said about him. Even though you’re a Clinton supporter. That makes sense.

“You make voters sick to their stomachs with this kind of hate-filled divisive drivel.”

See, I was thinking the same thing this weekend when Hillary alluded (for the 3rd time) that something might “happen” to Obama between now and the convention.

Why don’t you just call him a n—r? At least you would get points for telling us why you really would rather vote for McSame.

1. After reviewing all Dem candidates pre-Iowa, listening to speeches on C-span, watching debates, looking at web sites, etc., I selected Hillary Clinton to support, based on her invaluable experience, brilliance, and clarity on issues important to me.

2. Watched with concern remarks by Michelle Obama and Barack Obama, with code words I didn’t understand… Who were they talking to??? Certainly, not me (I’m white.). Was this an agenda being revealed to blacks? Then, watched in horror as Obama campaign labeled everyone racist who dared question Obama’s qualifications or who dared say anything remotely negative. Was even more horrified as the media amplified this sickening ploy, in an effort to destroy the Clintons. This was even more heartbreaking to see black people turn their backs on this couple who had done more to help them than anyone else in my lifetime. Nothing that either Clinton said was remotely racist, but, by god, if Axelrod, Olberman, Matthews or Cafferty said it was, then it WAS!!!

3. Watched the MSNBC & CNN pundits vilify Sen. Clinton, often using such blatant sexism, I got chest pains from my hurt and anger. Became more determined to support Clinton; donated again & again.

4. Watched in disbelief as her key primary wins were deemed no big deal by the same media crowd, but touting all those caucus wins for Obama as sure proof that he was the golden one.

5. Watched debates in which Clinton excelled and Obama foundered. Yet, he was excused and still praised. If she made the slightest stumble, it was magnified all out of proportion.

6. Watched in disbelief as the Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko and other murky background issues for Obama were glossed over by the media, and quickly dismissed.

7. Watched Dem after Dem come out in support of Obama, a guy we hardly knew, who was basically a mystery to most of us, a man with such a sketchy resume it was a wonder he had the audacity to even consider running for president, a man who had practically no accomplishments to his name…

8. Watched many Dems & media pundits shout unfairly for Clinton to leave the race, before the primaries were over.

9. Became outraged with NARAL’s untimely endorsement of Obama over Clinton, a woman who has devoted decades to the welfare of women & children.

10. Read nasty blogs comments by the thousands by young Obama supporters, sneering, gloating, calling Clinton terrible names, etc., while their cult candidate, Obama, called women “Sweetie,” flipped Clinton the bird in front of a huge crowd, and snubbed her on the night of the State of the Union address.

No, I do not think much of Barack Obama. Nor do I think much of the Democratic Party, who has thumbed their collective noses at Clinton supporters, who make up roughly half of the primary voters. They are about to shoot themselves in the foot once again. But, I do not have to fall in line or support something in which I do not believe.

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA!!!

Especially you, Jan… if your post was indicative of your intelligence level, and ability to think critically, then you are one of the biggest fucking morons I have ever encountered.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, the guy got shot down in the Vietnam war. I certainly hope you like the Iraq war, because you will get a lot more of it with McCain.

Go ahead vote for him. You will have to because Hillary has lost.

“I can only conclude that many of those commenters who would thereby give the keys of the Supreme Court to pandering, war-mongering, hypertensive, cancerous, Ambien-popping, poorly educated, ignorant, Fallwell-loving, angry, corrupt, dangerous, ANTI-CHOICE John McCain must be women past the age of child bearing themselves…”

See, when Obama promises “a different kind of politics” and then you do this kind of crap to an American war hero who has a son serving in Iraq…

You make voters sick to their stomachs with this kind of hate-filled divisive drivel. You PROVE his promises to be nothing but a bunch of empty campaign rhetoric.

You’re learning a “new” kind of politics from BHO? L.M.F.A.O.

So…
I just wonder what makes you think we will “come around”? Has BHO proven himself to be The Promised Uniter? I must have missed that.

I honestly don’t know of a single Clinton supporter who isn’t downright giddy now about working and voting against Barack Obama.

Are you thinking we will buy into BHO’s divisive political fear-mongering about JMc? Sorry, we’re not that type. And if the DNC really does flip off 17 million Clinton Democrats this weekend, I predict that Democrats will not win the Presidency in 2008.

The facts are, Ted Kennedy lost the Reagan Democrats for Democrats in 1980. Those Democrats voted for Republicans for 12 long years. Bill Clinton won those Reagan Democrats back for Democrats in 1992 and again in 1996.

Now that the DNC has shown itself to have no loyalty to the Clintons or to Clinton Democrats, I’m very certain we will want to punish the DNC come November.

I encourage Obamaniacs to do their electoral college map math without the support of Clinton/Reagan Democrats.

That you think he will actually win in November, either without them or that they will “come around,” makes me LOL.
That you think he will beat McCain by “~10%” is absolutely delusional.
And that you think Clinton supporters are the type who will just fall into line because the DNC says that they will??
That one makes me want some of what you’re smoking.

~ With love,
from “Not a Freeper in Disguise”