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	<title>Comments on: John McCain Wanted To Conduct Diplomacy With Hamas</title>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/16/john-mccain-wanted-to-conduct-diplomacy-with-hamas/#comment-95266</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re missing the point daniel.

Rubin&#039;s op-ed (and Oliver&#039;s post above) cherry-picked McCain&#039;s statements and tried to make the false claim that McCain supported diplomacy just like Obama&#039;s did back in July 2007 when he said he would meet &quot;without preconditions&quot;.

My 3:02pm quote from Obama is a recent one, and shows how his policy has gone from meet &quot;without preconditions&quot; to &quot;only meet if they fulfill several preconditions&quot;.  In other words, he&#039;s swung 180 degrees from his previous position in his recent attempt to sound tough.

Incidentally, Obama&#039;s current position is the same one that the Bush administration has been following all along.  The one that Obama spent a lot of time last year denigrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re missing the point daniel.</p>
<p>Rubin&#8217;s op-ed (and Oliver&#8217;s post above) cherry-picked McCain&#8217;s statements and tried to make the false claim that McCain supported diplomacy just like Obama&#8217;s did back in July 2007 when he said he would meet &#8220;without preconditions&#8221;.</p>
<p>My 3:02pm quote from Obama is a recent one, and shows how his policy has gone from meet &#8220;without preconditions&#8221; to &#8220;only meet if they fulfill several preconditions&#8221;.  In other words, he&#8217;s swung 180 degrees from his previous position in his recent attempt to sound tough.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Obama&#8217;s current position is the same one that the Bush administration has been following all along.  The one that Obama spent a lot of time last year denigrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 00:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said we or he is seeking their respect? Fine, he&#039;s a spokesman and not a world leader. Gotcha. Still, I think they would be more amenable to the conditions we seek if they respect our leaders OR spokespeople.

That would be a refreshing change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said we or he is seeking their respect? Fine, he&#8217;s a spokesman and not a world leader. Gotcha. Still, I think they would be more amenable to the conditions we seek if they respect our leaders OR spokespeople.</p>
<p>That would be a refreshing change.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/16/john-mccain-wanted-to-conduct-diplomacy-with-hamas/#comment-95158</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave in SoCal&#039;s take on Barack Obama&#039;s statement seems to be that Obama said &quot;We should sit down with Hamas.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave in SoCal&#8217;s take on Barack Obama&#8217;s statement seems to be that Obama said &#8220;We should sit down with Hamas.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/16/john-mccain-wanted-to-conduct-diplomacy-with-hamas/#comment-95157</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCain&#039;s response is that we should step back and see what Hamas does, and if there aren&#039;t any ways to engage them, we don&#039;t.&quot;

Which, according to the statement of Obama that you (Dave in SoCal) yourself quoted from is exactly what Obama&#039;s position is:  &quot;We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel&#039;s destruction.  We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israe&#039;s right to exist and abide by past agreements.&quot;  Not exactly a statement lacking in preconditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McCain&#8217;s response is that we should step back and see what Hamas does, and if there aren&#8217;t any ways to engage them, we don&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which, according to the statement of Obama that you (Dave in SoCal) yourself quoted from is exactly what Obama&#8217;s position is:  &#8220;We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel&#8217;s destruction.  We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israe&#8217;s right to exist and abide by past agreements.&#8221;  Not exactly a statement lacking in preconditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/16/john-mccain-wanted-to-conduct-diplomacy-with-hamas/#comment-95145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last sentence of 3:02 should not be in bold.  A preview button would be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last sentence of 3:02 should not be in bold.  A preview button would be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/16/john-mccain-wanted-to-conduct-diplomacy-with-hamas/#comment-95144</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What is so wrong with that?
Not really an endorsement of Obama, but yet another world leader who has more respect and esteem for him than for our current president.&lt;/i&gt;

First of all, please explain how &quot;actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election&quot; is not really an endorsement of Obama. 

As for what&#039;s wrong with that, let&#039;s see what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1636948020080416?feedType=RSS&amp;feedName=politicsNews&amp;rpc=22&amp;sp=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama himself&lt;/a&gt; has to say about it:

&quot;That&#039;s why I have a fundamental difference with President Carter and disagree with his decision to meet with Hamas,&quot; Obama said. &quot;We must not negotiate with &lt;b&gt;a terrorist group intent on Israel&#039;s destruction&lt;/b&gt;. We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel&#039;s right to exist and abide by past agreements.&quot;

&quot;&lt;b&gt;Hamas is not a state. Hamas is a terrorist organization&lt;/i&gt;,&quot; he said.

Seems Obama doesn&#039;t consider the Hamas spokesman a &quot;world leader&quot; whose respect we should seek, unlike you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What is so wrong with that?<br />
Not really an endorsement of Obama, but yet another world leader who has more respect and esteem for him than for our current president.</i></p>
<p>First of all, please explain how &#8220;actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election&#8221; is not really an endorsement of Obama. </p>
<p>As for what&#8217;s wrong with that, let&#8217;s see what <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1636948020080416?feedType=RSS&amp;feedName=politicsNews&amp;rpc=22&amp;sp=true" rel="nofollow">Obama himself</a> has to say about it:</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s why I have a fundamental difference with President Carter and disagree with his decision to meet with Hamas,&#8221; Obama said. &#8220;We must not negotiate with <b>a terrorist group intent on Israel&#8217;s destruction</b>. We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel&#8217;s right to exist and abide by past agreements.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;<b>Hamas is not a state. Hamas is a terrorist organization,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Seems Obama doesn&#8217;t consider the Hamas spokesman a &#8220;world leader&#8221; whose respect we should seek, unlike you.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/16/john-mccain-wanted-to-conduct-diplomacy-with-hamas/#comment-95140</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/content/index.php?p=3186&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; the next thirty-three seconds of that same interview:

Rubin: So should we the United States be dealing with that new reality through normal diplomatic contacts to get the job done for the United States?

McCain: I think the United States should take a step back, see what they do when they form their government, see what their policies are and see what ways we can engage them; and if there aren’t any then their may be a hiatus. But I think that part of the relationship is going to be dictated by how Hamas acts, not how the United States acts.

So when asked point-blank about using diplomacy with Hamas, McCain&#039;s response it that we should step back and see what Hamas does, and if there aren&#039;t any ways to engage them then we don&#039;t.  This is hardly the &quot;I would meet with [insert name of dictatorship here] without any preconditions&quot; that Obama has espoused.

Rubin cherry picked statements from his interview with McCain and wrote an op-ed around them.  And Oliver dutifully lapped it up and passed it on with his own pithy comments like the faithful Obama acolyte that he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and <a href="http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/content/index.php?p=3186" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s</a> the next thirty-three seconds of that same interview:</p>
<p>Rubin: So should we the United States be dealing with that new reality through normal diplomatic contacts to get the job done for the United States?</p>
<p>McCain: I think the United States should take a step back, see what they do when they form their government, see what their policies are and see what ways we can engage them; and if there aren’t any then their may be a hiatus. But I think that part of the relationship is going to be dictated by how Hamas acts, not how the United States acts.</p>
<p>So when asked point-blank about using diplomacy with Hamas, McCain&#8217;s response it that we should step back and see what Hamas does, and if there aren&#8217;t any ways to engage them then we don&#8217;t.  This is hardly the &#8220;I would meet with [insert name of dictatorship here] without any preconditions&#8221; that Obama has espoused.</p>
<p>Rubin cherry picked statements from his interview with McCain and wrote an op-ed around them.  And Oliver dutifully lapped it up and passed it on with his own pithy comments like the faithful Obama acolyte that he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farris, please tell me something.

From your link,
&lt;blockquote&gt;Top Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef:

    “We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What is so wrong with that? 
Not really an endorsement of Obama, but yet another world leader who has more respect and esteem for him than for our current president.

I for one would like our President to be respected even by people or governments that we disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farris, please tell me something.</p>
<p>From your link,</p>
<blockquote><p>Top Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef:</p>
<p>    “We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,”</p></blockquote>
<p>What is so wrong with that?<br />
Not really an endorsement of Obama, but yet another world leader who has more respect and esteem for him than for our current president.</p>
<p>I for one would like our President to be respected even by people or governments that we disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDEwZGY1YWQ0ZmFjMzI5Yjk5NmM3NTA3ZDgzNjRiMDM=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oops&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDEwZGY1YWQ0ZmFjMzI5Yjk5NmM3NTA3ZDgzNjRiMDM=" rel="nofollow">Oops</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PD100</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? McCain shares the same view as that crazy DhIMMi MoOnBaT Jimmuh Cahtuh!?!@!1?? OH NOES!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? McCain shares the same view as that crazy DhIMMi MoOnBaT Jimmuh Cahtuh!?!@!1?? OH NOES!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it. I hope Obama mentions this when he hits back McCan&#039;t Make Up His Mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it. I hope Obama mentions this when he hits back McCan&#8217;t Make Up His Mind.</p>
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