Comments on: Free Advice For Idiots: Prom Edition

By: bryan

bryan — Tue, 13 May 2008 11:50:45 +0000

The huffington link features an interview she gave where she says she was wearing underwear, although the person at the door apparently changed the reason for her not getting in the second time around (having covered her legs and midriff a bit) to she wasn’t wearing any.
I’d be put out if I’d paid for something, and I’d want my money back. Anyone ever done an assertiveness course? Some might call not putting up with a refusal beligerence. I always thought it was funny when Michael Moore tried to get into some offices, cops called, and security tell the cops he’d done this and that, only to find, on reviewing his filming, that they were lying. Like him or hate him, perhaps people should film themselves from now on to prevent their insistent tone from being called belligerence.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Mon, 12 May 2008 22:46:39 +0000

Not to belabor the crass, but is there any indication that she was at the very least wearing drawers?

By: The Reality-Based Dave

The Reality-Based Dave — Mon, 12 May 2008 22:41:42 +0000

Asking any question along the lines of what or why equals belligerence & a trip downtown.
I had a cop bash my face into the hood of my car because I didn’t pull my (stuck) hand out of my jacket fast enough for him. Spent the night in jail. Let go the next day, no charge…

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Mon, 12 May 2008 22:34:26 +0000

First, rap video gear has no place at a prom. My comment about there being something wrong with India was in jest, though there is world of difference between attire for a sporting event and a school function. And finally, the Redskin cheerleader unis are far more tasteful and less skanky than what this girl wore. Which is saying something.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Mon, 12 May 2008 22:05:52 +0000

Boys don’t lose their virginities at them as well, Duros?

Well, sure, but how many boys wear loin cloths to the prom?

Spider, I agree with you, but, as a parent, that shit wouldn’t fly with me.

By: Queixada

Queixada — Mon, 12 May 2008 19:33:01 +0000

It was crass.

She got arrested because she became belligerent.
You just gotta know how we get when we get belligerent.
They really should’ve gave her her money back though.

By: SpiderJ

SpiderJ — Mon, 12 May 2008 19:25:05 +0000

Okay, I think I’m being misconstrued. I was going for “dry” with that comment. I don’t think the dress is appropriate for prom, but I feel that it’s harsh to say she looked like a hooker for dressing as such, when other events which are not sex transactions feature costumes just as risque, but which elicit no outcry from our host; indeed, the reaction is quite the opposite.

I’m taking issue with the double-standard, here, as well as the harshness of the “hooker” imagery–if anything, she’s not wearing anything more skimpy than you find in your average rap video.

If we consider that a prom is not an appropriate place for such an outfit, then how can Oliver ask what is “wrong” with India when they don’t consider a cricket match an appropriate place for a cheerleader’s two-piece?

By: bryan

bryan — Mon, 12 May 2008 19:19:53 +0000

Boys don’t lose their virginities at them as well, Duros?
I think the first comment on the link said it right: What has happened to our problem solving skills that calling the cops is option No.1?
The function of the people organising this event is to allow people in, not disallow. Fair enough, she was flouting the dress code, but couldn’t she have gotten a ride home and back for a change of clothes? The organisers could’ve helped that happen.
Here in the UK, we used to have ‘traffic wardens’, whose function it was to enable the smooth flow of traffic. Now, it’s ‘parking enforcement officers’ whose job it is to issue tickets (they have quotas), traffic flow be damned. You see the comparison? It’s known as putting the cart before the horse.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Mon, 12 May 2008 18:58:10 +0000

..one could easily argue that such clothing has more place at a prom (which is, traditionally or stereotypically, a weekend when many high school students lose their virginity) than it does at a sporting event.

Whaa? Who’s being mysogynistic now?

If it were my 17 year old daughter going out like that, there would be a problem. And if it as your 17 year old daughter, I think you would object as well.

True, a lot of cherries get popped at the prom, there’s no reason to advertise it.

By: SpiderJ

SpiderJ — Mon, 12 May 2008 18:41:05 +0000

I’ll back off on the misogyny comment.

But I fail to see your distinction between prom and a sporting event, especially as one could easily argue that such clothing has more place at a prom (which is, traditionally or stereotypically, a weekend when many high school students lose their virginity) than it does at a sporting event.

By: soullite

soullite — Mon, 12 May 2008 18:31:18 +0000

I was about to get indignant over this post. I’m glad I clicked the link and actually saw the dress first. While I won’t say she looks like a whore (really, for the most part people should dress how they like without these judgments), I’d say that she might have thought it through and considered if that really constituted traditional prom wear.

Arresting her was over the line, however. We really need to rethink the degree of latitude we give school and police officials in this country.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Mon, 12 May 2008 18:23:00 +0000

She’s no Jennifer Lopez and it ain’t the Oscars. I think arresting her was a bit much, but I see Ollie’s point. Her daddy probably felt the same way.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Mon, 12 May 2008 17:57:02 +0000

Okay, one is a sports event, the other is a high school event. Maybe I’m old fashioned that way but I think a high school prom has to draw the line somewhere. Do you really think this is the sort of thing that should be worn to a prom? And its somehow misogyny to say that that’s the sort of thing a prostitute would wear? Really?

By: Brendan

Brendan — Mon, 12 May 2008 16:43:50 +0000

That seems like an unnecessarily harsh assessment, Oliver.

Which I see SpiderJ just said, but I’ll let my comment stand.

By: SpiderJ

SpiderJ — Mon, 12 May 2008 16:26:37 +0000

Wow, Oliver, I’ll agree that she probably should have known better than to show up in that dress, but your assessment that she looks like a hooker is incredibly harsh and arguably misogynist, especially after your previous post asking what was wrong with India for getting all up in arms about the Redskins cheerleaders’ outfits.

What I don’t understand is why they said she couldn’t come in even after she offered to cover up.