Do you really believe that Florida didn’t sabotage the election 4 years ago to deny Kerry and Gore before him victory?

Do you really believe that CLOSET REPUBLICANS in the democratic party in Florida didn’t know the rules when they DELIBERATELY held their primary too early? Do you really believe they’re that dumb?

Politicians are evil corrupt people for the MOST PART. Not all of them. The evil wolves will devour Obama like a lamb, if he gets in that office. HE WILL BE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE.

The so-called con artist RIGHT who are way more immorale than the people called the LEFT,are engineering this whole “let’s manipulate the electoral system to get the most WEAK democratic candidate running because after all of Bush’s screw ups, that’s the only way we can win” strategy. If these people get away with this, the country is going to be thrown into complete chaos, and it wont be long before we have coupes and assinations like 3rd world countries.

PEOPLE DON’T LIKE CHANGE, ESPECIALLY IF IT DOESN’T SHOW FAVORITISM FOR THEIR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP. WE NEED A STRONG PRESIDENT WHO CAN ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES. HILLARY HAS PROVEN HERSELF TO BE A LIONESS WHO WILL NEVER WAIVER IN HER MISSION.

He’s on his way I must admit. He claimed he couldn’t denounce his pastor, no more than he could denounce black people, AND THEN HE UP AND DONE IT!!!

A black man who does that will just be a typical house boy, doing anything immorale to get that lap dog pat on the head. I would much rather prefer a strong just white person in power, than a black who does that.

I am ashamed she’s still in the Democratic Party and if I were Howard Dean I would ask her to publicly apologize or leave the party right now.

This is 2008, not 1908.

The snark aside, let me give a rather long winded analysis. I do not think that this is full out bigotry although it sure sounds like it. I am sure that this partly represents the kind of argument that goes on behind political doors, to look at the demographics and make an argument, we can easily carry this demographic, but that one is more difficult. This candidate is strong in that demographic, therefore better. Matt Yglesias made this point. However, I would say there is a moral dimension to these discussions, and politicians know it. That is why it stays behind closed doors (except in this case).

This is something that Senator Obama has continually addressed, but with a particularly good speech on Martin Luther King’s birthday. I really recommend that people find it on the web and listen to it if they have not already. The problem basically breaks down to the issue of politics being a zero sum game, either the candidate wins or looses. To avoid loosing, the politician may throw one demographic “out the window”, pander or even execute bad policy for a demographic, or, even worse, pit one demographic against another. It has gotten so bad that Senator Obama has rightly called this “politics of divisiveness” out as the major moral flaw in our country today. But I think the HRC episode shows that it does not take full out bigotry to get us there, although I am sure that it helps the bigoted politician trend toward pitting groups against one another.

As an aside, I just want state that I disagree with her idea that she has an advantage in the general election. Without a long argument, I think this time it is truly too complicated to slice and dice the population fine enough to get at the point. People keep arguing, and may be it is better we not really know, anyway.

But why does she go public with something that really only belongs in private strategy sessions, if at all? Why did she equate “hard working” with “poor white”, which sounds full out bigoted? My wild guess (others try to be psychic, why not me?) is that her candidacy is really ending and it is not about West Virginia or Kentucky. She cannot get enough of the super-delegates on the phone fast enough. She is beyond worried (a good question is the actual state of her mind), and wanted to make sure that they knew the demographic she was discussing. So, she went public to get their attention. If so, it was a bad move badly done, and will certainly drive super-delegates towards Obama, faster. Either that or the incredibly stupid Mark Penn still controls her campaign in which case it is about Kentucky and West Virginia and the bigoted white vote in a nonsensical microtrend analysis. But, no matter the context, it really was a sad day to hear this from Senator Clinton.

As evidenced by his lead in the votes, delegates, fundraising and popularity?

How dare he.

Go stand on a corner with your Nader sign.

When Obama rips off his decaying mask to reveal the Skrull invader beneath, and then jets back into deep space cackling of the success of his nefarious plan, then I’ll admit I was wrong to find your above statement paranoid and laughable.

Until that time, I laugh. A lot.

What I find so strange is that there are people who (a) complain that if Hillary is not the president, they will vote for McCain or not vote for the top of the ticket or whatever and (b) claim that Obama supporters are automatons – incapable of rational thought. The irony in the first place is that you cannot be a supporter of Democratic ideals and not vote for Obama in the GE. In the second case, you all are showing an incredible “cult of personality” problem in your support of Hillary.

If, as you suggest, Obama is “nothing but a spoiler” who can’t win – if this country is not ready to elect a black man as president 40 years after the civil rights movement – then screw us. We deserve what we get.

She may well have just meant: “There was just an AP article posted that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans —
well, the white ones, that’s what I meant to say — is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

Not every awkwardly phrased thought is evidence of bad faith. Obama shouldn’t have been roasted for the “bitter” comment, and Clinton shouldn’t be roasted for this. For that matter, McCain shouldn’t be roasted for “100 years.” They’re all presumably well-meaning people. Let’s compare what they’ll do for the country, not trade evidence that each of them is secretly evil.

She can kiss the whole f’n PROGRAM goodbye. Even if McCain screws the election and wins, the Hillary 2012 scenario is now dead. She will not win a third Senate term, as she’s made herself into a leper with the Democrats.

The GOPukes are loving her, though, for having the “spaldeens” to say publicly what they believe privately. If McCain weasels his way into the WH (cue a coughing Bluto Blutarski), he’ll find a job for her.

Yep. She can kiss the VP spot goodbye.

“Dolemite said, ‘BIIIITCH!!!!!’

Little music video I put up on youtube. It’s under a minute and the title is Hillary – Going Out of Business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0oJzT9WIg

Enjoy.

My question, at this stage of the game, is why is her husband allowing this to continue?

He is the only one that has the necessary influence needed to guide her out of this safely, while also seeing that she’s handled in a manner keeping her in a calm & relaxed state of mind, thus ensuring a dignified & uneventful close of play.

That would have to be before, Bob. Since Obama never gave here the finger (speaking of “faux outrages”).