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The last throes are pretty messy.
Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed Wednesday to continue her quest for the Democratic nomination, arguing she would be the stronger nominee because she appeals to a wider coalition of voters — including whites who have not supported Barack Obama in recent contests.
“I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”
“There’s a pattern emerging here,” she said.
Indeed, a pattern has emerged some time ago. Boy, did we dodge a bullet.
“[W]orking, hard-working Americans, white Americans”. She really said that. Wow.
Congratulations, Hillary Clinton, you win the prize for the first Democratic Bigot Eruption since I’ve been keeping track of this. Even professional haters like Pat Buchanan and his ilk aren’t so balls-out about racism. You’ve been getting your ass handed to you and especially among black voters. This shows me once again that we – who are apparently lazy and shiftless non-Americans based on your definition – have yet again been a leading indicator.
There was maybe a slight chance Barack Obama might have been pushed to pick you as his running mate, but we can’t have someone spouting Klan-style talking points on the ticket. Heck, there’s a good shot with language like that you won’t win back your senate seat in 2012. I mean, a lot of those apparently lazy and shiftless non-American blacks helped you to win and they’d just as soon vote for someone else in the primary or the Republican in the election rather than someone echoing Bull Connor’s language.
“Working, hard working Americans, white Americans”, indeed.
UPDATE: Thanks for the link Americablog, and to make clear what I consider Clinton’s Klan-style talking point is her assertion that the hard working Americans are white Americans. That’s what I take offense to, and I don’t think you have to be black to feel that way.
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Someone explain to me how white people is a broad coalition?
Stop speaking right now, Hillary.
TELL IT, OLIVER!
“Someone explain to me how white people is a broad coalition?”
Hard working, uneducated white people!
As a lazy, shiftless, highly educated white American(from Ohio, no less), I can’t help but be amused and sickened by Hill’s rhetoric. Kind of like a Ferris wheel gone amok.
A cursory glance at the news will turn up quite a bit of veiled racism.
Just the other day, shortly after Congressman James Clyburn (an undeclared Super-Delegate) appeared on MSNBC, one of the talking heads in the Hardball panel stated, “we all know who HE’S going to support..”
check the MSNBC video link below, they cut out the portion just after the interview’s close where a chattering head makes the subtle racist remark:
Hilary Clinton is just too self-indulgent to care about the people (democrats) she supposedly represents. That’s why she’s lost 31 states and counting. That’s why she changes the goal posts for Barack Obama. That’s why she’s wrong for Ameerica and the Americans who populate it. Americans aren’t just the white working class.
Hilary is staying in this race for vanity, and the hope that Barack Obama will somehow fall apart. The fact that a larger chunk of the Democratic base supports the ‘other guy’ has yet to sink in. This must be because Hilary believes SHE is the base of the party.
If we as democrats somehow lose the general election in the Fall, I will lay the entire blame at the feet of the Clintons and the centrist republican-lite democrats-in-name-only.
Our party has no room for closet racists and big business lapdogs.
That was weird. I just held my breath waiting for the media to give this statement as much attention as they gave Obama’s “bitter” comment, and then I passed out. I don’t understand. Surely they’d be all over this, seeing as how they’re completely in the tank for Obama.
“If you give the voters a choice between a Republican and a Republican, they will choose the Republican every time.”
Harry Truman
I get that some ‘elites’ have made this about race and gender (as, you know, we only vote for our own “kind” :p), but Sen. Obama did give a pretty darn good speech on the matter. Maybe she should fire up the Tivo.
Andrew Sullivan pointed out in his blog that Clinton, the $109 million hero of the white working class, ran a campaign that kept going broke and needed infusions of cash from her personal stash. Meanwhile, Obama the elitist built a war chest based on one million plus small donors and still has cash left over.
Sounds like HRC did not learn at Yale law that the 3/5 compromise is no longer in effect.
Me thinks Captian Ahab… I mean Hilary “Is he mad? Anyway there’s something on his mind, as sure as there must be something on a deck when it cracks.” This is no longer about having a chance to win, but rather an ego run amok. I realize most politicians have rather large egos, but Hilary comments are purposely divisive. I am alittle cynical right now….”Though amid all the smoking horror and diabolism of a sea-fight, sharks will be seen longingly gazing up to the ship’s decks, like hungry dogs round a table where red meat is being carved, ready to bolt down every killed man that is tossed to them . . .”
*Had to dispense some great words from Moby Dick:)*
I guess by quoting actual literature that makes me one of those “college types”, yet I am REALLY hard working and poor…funny thing those stereotypes.
Hillary started the meme that she was the “working class” candidate despite the fact that her donor base is PAC’s and max donors. Obama’s base is people who donate $20-50-100-$500, hardly “elites”.
This framing of the debate by HRC is a way to say “vote for me instead of the n—–r”. She is clearly trying to cozy up to the voter base who will NEVER vote for a black man. To do this, she has to saddle up to their side and attack the “elites from the coasts”. Seems to me we’ve seen the same strategy before, it’s called the “Southern Strategy”. Republicans who need to get racist whites to vote for an elitist agenda likewise use the fear of a black planet.
Shit like this makes me feel bitter. I’m gonna go get my gun and go to church.
I see a pattern emerging, if you look at the election results for this primary run-up and the past few presidential generals.
Hilary states that she’s more electable because she does well in the rural areas. Could you hazard a guess who’s going to win 95% of the rural counties during the general election?
Yes, that will be John McCain who cleans up small town american voters this November. A Hilary Clinton on the ticket won’t cut more than a couple of percentage points off that total, and a Hilary Clinton on the ticket would take significant steam away from the larger cities where democrats usually do very well.
For example here in Saint Louis City, a typical Democratic presidential candidate will pick up 80% (or more) of the registered vote over a typical Republican. Barack Obama has substantial support and name recognition because Saint Louis straddles TWO states and gets heavy political advertising and coverage of BOTH states. My father, a longtime city and state democrat and politician, calls the surge of support here for Barack to be ‘unprecedented’ and the energy he has felt is the strongest it has been since the early to mid 60s.
I am proud to call myself a supporter of Barack Obama since he first came onto my radar screen as an Illinois State Senator several years ago. Watching Obama work and build and grow particularly over the past four years has been thrilling to watch for me. I’ve known in my heart from the very beginning that Barack’s message would resonate on a national level. I just didn’t know if he would be able to defeat the very formidable Hilary in the primary.
Barack Obama will win the state of Missouri in november because he will bring out a coalition the size of which has been unseen for decades around here.
Missouri is a great bellwether state to study if you want to get a sense of where our country is at the moment. John Kerry failed to campaign hard here in 2004, pulling his staffers in early September. I know for a fact the Barack Obama and his campaign team won’t make that same fateful mistake.
At this time Hilary can’t match Obama’s strength of numbers and pledged delegates. All she has on her side are hazy exit polling numbers and campaign stump speeches full of empty rhetoric. She’s reaching into the wind to grasp at anything that somehow looks supportive, and right now all she’s got are older white folks who react to under-the-table racist remarks.
She’s got us right where she wants us.
Give Hillary her bed sheet and send her packing. She has finally morphed into Jesse Helms.
Hilary states that she’s more electable because she does well in the rural areas.
May I ask the rather obvious question? So?
I thought the idea was to get the most votes overall. You know, including the places where a larger portion of people actually live.
“I thought the idea was to get the most votes overall. You know, including the places where a larger portion of people actually live.”
That’s why Hilary is so out of touch right now. I can’t remember which talking head said this, but the term ‘Planet Hilary’ was used to describe how the Clinton campaign staff were twisting facts and figures.
You’d think an experienced politician like Hilary could see the writing on the wall. The Empress has no clothes, and is strutting around america like a naked and rusting Statue of Liberty upholding the dim wit Beacon of White Hope.
Can we award Hillary Atrios’ coveted “Wanker of the Day” award?
OT, but you wanna see something funny, in an irony based sort of way?
Give Hillary her bed sheet and send her packing. She has finally morphed into Jesse Helms.
I guess Trent Lott will be invited to her next birthday party.
Today’s New Clinton Nomination Strategy:
Hope that democrats realize by June 1st that they are going to nominate a ‘black man’ by voting for Obama. We can’t have that, now can we??
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I am fairly sure this will be John McCain and the Republican’s ultimate strategy, too.
The official 2008 presidential election meme: “Vote for (insert name here) because I’m white and Barack’s not.”
Hilary states that she’s more electable because she does well in the rural areas.
But aren’t most of these areas in the “small states”? The ones that don’t count?
Oliver
My whole family, and we are many and very very white, are sickened by this latest ploy. We sent an e-mail called “The Last Straw”. Unfortunately, we are all literate so we are apparently not Hillary’s demographic.
BigHypocriteTentiscularHillaryLovingDemocrat at Talk Left has not gotten to this item yet. (Did you know he supports Obama? Neither would anyone who reads that blog….)
Who would have thought that The Clinton’s were as bad as their enemies said they were? Their enemies, The WSJ and company, are still bad, but my goodness, Hillary should at least say, “You know what? I did not say that properly.”
Maybe BigHypocrite can have his Unity Ticket Hillary and VP David Duke: Hillary would ensure the blacks, women and latinos, and both would get those precious Reagan Democrats.
She’s disgusting…..trailer park trash not worthy of anyone’s vote but the fellow ignoramuses she’s courting…..truly truly nauseating….I hate even looking at her now…..
the folley of her argument that she’s best to win…….
she HAD all the advantages in the primary….massive front-runner “inevitable” status, huge money lead, key supporters, etc…..and blew it.
after this performance how can she point to her own political analysis today and say the party should bet on her???? the general election is a whole new race…..how can you listen to arcane political arguments and demographic analysis from a front-runner who blew a huge lead and massive amounts of money????
Cut her some slack, it was probably just the Crown Royal talking.
People don’t vote for Obama because he’s “black”, but because he shows himself as more competent and more charismatic than the competition.
I don’t think many would vote for Hillary simply because she’s “white.” But I know several women who really (well, at least until her latest bizarre statement about white voters) seem to sympathize with her as a woman.
And even that slight “gender bias” isn’t much to count on in an election. Can you imagine Hillary claiming “I’m female and so are 50% of voters, therefore I’m the best candidate”??? (Hmmm….)
Wow. We knew that she was running a Zelig campaign where she was trying to turn into a good ol’ girl who shot varmints (/Mittens), chugs shots and beer and drops the “g’s” at the end of words. But who knew she’d want to channel George Wallace circa 1968?
I’m having difficulty following the faux outrages. Did Hillary say this before or after Obama gave her the finger?
Only 13% of the population is African-American, yet Hillary Clinton is getting her butt kicked in the primary contest. That tells me that SHE is the one having a hard time getting white voters.
Hope that democrats realize by June 1st that they are going to nominate a ‘black man’ by voting for Obama. We can’t have that, now can we??
I am fairly sure this will be John McCain and the Republican’s ultimate strategy, too.
I can see it now. “Willie Horton for President 2008?”
Can you imagine Hillary claiming “I’m female and so are 50% of voters, therefore I’m the best candidate”??? (Hmmm….)
So is Condoleeza Rice, but I don’t want her to be President.
Hey, if Hillary want to be elected President of Red Sox Nation, or NASCARville, that’s fine with me.
Cue Talk Left post by Armando calling you an idiot/race-baiter in 3…2…1…
Robert McClelland: I’m having difficulty following the faux outrages. Did Hillary say this before or after Obama gave her the finger?
That would have to be before, Bob. Since Obama never gave here the finger (speaking of “faux outrages”).
Hillary is a walking, talking ticking time bomb, though outwardly appearing to be functioning normally, is in the throes of a full-on major psychotic episode…expect a rather spectacular breakdown in the near future.
My question, at this stage of the game, is why is her husband allowing this to continue?
He is the only one that has the necessary influence needed to guide her out of this safely, while also seeing that she’s handled in a manner keeping her in a calm & relaxed state of mind, thus ensuring a dignified & uneventful close of play.
Hi Oliver. Over from Americablog. Haven’t been for awhile! Good to see you kicking. You guys are thoroughly going to enjoy this!!
Little music video I put up on youtube. It’s under a minute and the title is Hillary – Going Out of Business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0oJzT9WIg
Enjoy.
Cue Rudy Ray Moore:
“Dolemite said, ‘BIIIITCH!!!!!’
This is bad. I’m white, not from that part of the country, but “white Americans” only brings one thing to mind. I can think of cases where the phrase “black Americans” or “Asian” or many other combinations that wouldn’t sound offensive, at least to me. But the phrase “white Americans” can only be interpreted one way.
“working, hard-working Americans, white Americans”
Yep. She can kiss the VP spot goodbye.
Cali Tejano:
She can kiss the VP spot goodbye.
She can kiss the whole f’n PROGRAM goodbye. Even if McCain screws the election and wins, the Hillary 2012 scenario is now dead. She will not win a third Senate term, as she’s made herself into a leper with the Democrats.
The GOPukes are loving her, though, for having the “spaldeens” to say publicly what they believe privately. If McCain weasels his way into the WH (cue a coughing Bluto Blutarski), he’ll find a job for her.
I don’t think 2012 is out of the question for Hillary. She can always switch parties. After what’s happening right now I would not be surprised if she did because the GOP is the only place she’d be welcome.
Whoa, friends. Although I’m an Obama supporter, I think Obama would want us to practice a fairer-minded politics and give Clinton the benefit of the doubt here.
She may well have just meant: “There was just an AP article posted that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans —
well, the white ones, that’s what I meant to say — is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”
Not every awkwardly phrased thought is evidence of bad faith. Obama shouldn’t have been roasted for the “bitter” comment, and Clinton shouldn’t be roasted for this. For that matter, McCain shouldn’t be roasted for “100 years.” They’re all presumably well-meaning people. Let’s compare what they’ll do for the country, not trade evidence that each of them is secretly evil.
Obama is nothing but a spoiler to guarantee the democrats won’t win in November. Why can’t you people see that!
I’ll probably vote for her if she’s nominated or not. As a write in.
So merl, after all you’ve said here you would rather vote for McCain? Because a vote for Hillary in the general (as a write-in) is a vote for McCain.
faye -
If, as you suggest, Obama is “nothing but a spoiler” who can’t win – if this country is not ready to elect a black man as president 40 years after the civil rights movement – then screw us. We deserve what we get.
Folks, the president is merely a vessel for Democratic ideas and Democratic ideals. They are our ideas and our ideals. I chose Obama to be the representative of my ideals because he is a better salesman, is less confrontational and has less baggage. More people thought like I do than thought Hillary should be that vessel. Fine.
What I find so strange is that there are people who (a) complain that if Hillary is not the president, they will vote for McCain or not vote for the top of the ticket or whatever and (b) claim that Obama supporters are automatons – incapable of rational thought. The irony in the first place is that you cannot be a supporter of Democratic ideals and not vote for Obama in the GE. In the second case, you all are showing an incredible “cult of personality” problem in your support of Hillary.
Obama is nothing but a spoiler to guarantee the democrats won’t win in November. Why can’t you people see that!
When Obama rips off his decaying mask to reveal the Skrull invader beneath, and then jets back into deep space cackling of the success of his nefarious plan, then I’ll admit I was wrong to find your above statement paranoid and laughable.
Until that time, I laugh. A lot.
Obama is nothing but a spoiler to guarantee the democrats won’t win in November. Why can’t you people see that!
As evidenced by his lead in the votes, delegates, fundraising and popularity?
How dare he.
Go stand on a corner with your Nader sign.
HRC definitely jumped the shark a while back. That not being enough, she seems to have this wish to prove the point over and over again.
The snark aside, let me give a rather long winded analysis. I do not think that this is full out bigotry although it sure sounds like it. I am sure that this partly represents the kind of argument that goes on behind political doors, to look at the demographics and make an argument, we can easily carry this demographic, but that one is more difficult. This candidate is strong in that demographic, therefore better. Matt Yglesias made this point. However, I would say there is a moral dimension to these discussions, and politicians know it. That is why it stays behind closed doors (except in this case).
This is something that Senator Obama has continually addressed, but with a particularly good speech on Martin Luther King’s birthday. I really recommend that people find it on the web and listen to it if they have not already. The problem basically breaks down to the issue of politics being a zero sum game, either the candidate wins or looses. To avoid loosing, the politician may throw one demographic “out the window”, pander or even execute bad policy for a demographic, or, even worse, pit one demographic against another. It has gotten so bad that Senator Obama has rightly called this “politics of divisiveness” out as the major moral flaw in our country today. But I think the HRC episode shows that it does not take full out bigotry to get us there, although I am sure that it helps the bigoted politician trend toward pitting groups against one another.
As an aside, I just want state that I disagree with her idea that she has an advantage in the general election. Without a long argument, I think this time it is truly too complicated to slice and dice the population fine enough to get at the point. People keep arguing, and may be it is better we not really know, anyway.
But why does she go public with something that really only belongs in private strategy sessions, if at all? Why did she equate “hard working” with “poor white”, which sounds full out bigoted? My wild guess (others try to be psychic, why not me?) is that her candidacy is really ending and it is not about West Virginia or Kentucky. She cannot get enough of the super-delegates on the phone fast enough. She is beyond worried (a good question is the actual state of her mind), and wanted to make sure that they knew the demographic she was discussing. So, she went public to get their attention. If so, it was a bad move badly done, and will certainly drive super-delegates towards Obama, faster. Either that or the incredibly stupid Mark Penn still controls her campaign in which case it is about Kentucky and West Virginia and the bigoted white vote in a nonsensical microtrend analysis. But, no matter the context, it really was a sad day to hear this from Senator Clinton.
And people wonder why roughly half of us Obama supporters won’t vote for her??
I am ashamed she’s still in the Democratic Party and if I were Howard Dean I would ask her to publicly apologize or leave the party right now.
This is 2008, not 1908.
We have RAMPANT beatings of black men by police, housing is more segregated than it was in the 1950s, job discrimination is everywhere, black folks in the south and inner cities have largely been relegated to 3rd world lifestyles, katrina plots and others to rid the cities of black americans, loan discrimination, and FOOLS STILL BELIEVE THESE SAME RASCIST WHITE FOLKS ARE GOING TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER FOR A BLACK CANDIDATE WHO IS STRONG ENOUGH TO STAND UP FOR BLACK PEOPLE???? ARE YOU RETARDED??? THE ONLY WAY BLACK OBAMA WILL GET AND STAY IN THAT WHITE HOUSE IS TO BECOME A COMPLETE OREO (BLACK ON THE OUTSIDE AND WHITE ON THE INSIDE).
He’s on his way I must admit. He claimed he couldn’t denounce his pastor, no more than he could denounce black people, AND THEN HE UP AND DONE IT!!!
A black man who does that will just be a typical house boy, doing anything immorale to get that lap dog pat on the head. I would much rather prefer a strong just white person in power, than a black who does that.
Is anyone on this blog aware that when Hillary was denied her wins in Florida and Ohio, at the very beginning of this freak show called the democratic primary. that it set her up for loss and hateful press coverage?
Do you really believe that Florida didn’t sabotage the election 4 years ago to deny Kerry and Gore before him victory?
Do you really believe that CLOSET REPUBLICANS in the democratic party in Florida didn’t know the rules when they DELIBERATELY held their primary too early? Do you really believe they’re that dumb?
Politicians are evil corrupt people for the MOST PART. Not all of them. The evil wolves will devour Obama like a lamb, if he gets in that office. HE WILL BE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE.
The so-called con artist RIGHT who are way more immorale than the people called the LEFT,are engineering this whole “let’s manipulate the electoral system to get the most WEAK democratic candidate running because after all of Bush’s screw ups, that’s the only way we can win” strategy. If these people get away with this, the country is going to be thrown into complete chaos, and it wont be long before we have coupes and assinations like 3rd world countries.
PEOPLE DON’T LIKE CHANGE, ESPECIALLY IF IT DOESN’T SHOW FAVORITISM FOR THEIR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP. WE NEED A STRONG PRESIDENT WHO CAN ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES. HILLARY HAS PROVEN HERSELF TO BE A LIONESS WHO WILL NEVER WAIVER IN HER MISSION.