I for one am glad to hear you say that.

No, you idiot, it would be a win for Obama. Just like winning a state by 1-3% in the General election.

Clinton lost the nomination. Get over it.

I wanted Edwards to win. That didn’t happen. I got over it.

“I have stated clearly and unequivocally here in the past: If Obama wins, I am 110% behind Obama.

Ollie has said he will sit it out.”

That’s because the only way Clinton wins is to steal the election. She can’t win with the will of the people.

That really depends on how the Michigan/Florida issue shakes out. Yeah, yeah, I’ve heard all the arguments both ways. Don’t waste your keystrokes on it. What the rules committee decides may have a major effect on the outcome of the nomination fight.

And the avg has only begun to catch up to the disastrous last few days for Obama.

I have stated clearly and unequivocally here in the past: If Obama wins, I am 110% behind Obama.

Ollie has said he will sit it out.

So if Obama wins the nomination, will you sit on your hands or vote McCain? Because that’s what’s going to decide how those numbers change after June.

So, you know, win/win, but those numbers are gonna change after June.

Latest polls (FOX, CBS, NY Times, others) show Hillary beats McCain by a couple in the General and Obama loses to him by a couple.

I don’t go by those polls. The MOE and selection grouping is too uneven. I prefer an average of most available polls. That’s why I said Average.

CNN, Gallup, Rasmussen, Fox, CBS/NYT, WSJ/NBC, Pew, AP, Nesweek averaged together puts Obama 0.3 over McCain

Obama 1.7 over Clinton this week.

Latest polls (FOX, CBS, NY Times, others) show Hillary beats McCain by a couple in the General and Obama loses to him by a couple.

All across the South, and in swing states like Ohio and Florida, it’s not even close. Hillary does MUCH better than O ther ein the latest Quinnipiac.

The wild mixture of caucuses, semi-caucuses, primaries, open primaries, closed primaries, weighted-district primaries and after-the-primary-caucuses has made a totally, and I mean a TOTALLY diverse and screwy election process.

It is virtually impossible to predict a General Election outcome from the results to date.

I don’t see how you can say We are going to “the whole population” at all.

In some states, it was only Democrats. In some states, it was only Democrats who had voted in the last Election. In some states, it was anyone who asked for a registration form, no matter what their party affiliation, and all they had to do was sign a form sating they lived there! (Iowa, NH)

This is why the Democratic Party put IN the Superdelegate system, to SE-lect the nominee when the E-lected process fails.

My point stands, regardless of whether you want to argue semantics on whether the nomination process constitutes an “election,” per se. The fact is that we are actually going to the population, the whole population, and asking them what they think. This isn’t a poll. Obama is ahead and will be ahead when the final few contests are over. The people will have made their pick. If the supers decide to go the other way, it’ll be a catastrophic and idiotic mistake. I don’t think even the Dems are that stupid (although I can’t be certain).

My main point was that this is not, repeat, NOT a tie. Stop saying stupid crap like that, because it’s 100% wrong.

All of which does nothing to refute mambo’s point.

Right now, average polls put them both losing to McNovocain. That is gonna change pretty fucking quick after June.

Sounds like a Rev. Wright sermon to me:

God-DAMMN them!! Them Ole white chickens….are comin’ home.. to roooost!!!!

Lol

Mambo, this is not an Election. It is the Nomination of the Democratic Candidate in the General Election.

That person CAN be E-Lected by popular vote, provided they reach a majority of those delegates that are assigned by the popular vote, in today’s Dem party 2025 delegates.

Failing that, as will be the case on June 3, NEITHER CANDIDATE WILL REACH THAT POINT. They CANNOT be E-lected, Mambo. (How many times will it take before you admmt this??)

They MUST be SE-lected. That’s what the Superdelegates do!

Sure, if the only democratic voters were surly, old white women. And you.

I’d still vote for Clinton over McCain any day of the week. But I won’t fight nearly as hard for her.
Again, I will vote against McNovocain if Hillary is the nominee.

I will vote FOR Obama if he is the nominee. It will be the first time in 28 years I will vote FOR a candidate.

Seriously, who the hell voted FOR Mondale/Ferraro?

This is not a tie. Although they are similar in certain ways, elections are not polls. Selecting and surveying 200 people and asking their opinion is a poll, and there is a certain amount of statistical error that comes from extrapolating those responses to the population at large. A candidate that wins one more vote in an election wins. Game over. In an election, we aren’t trying to draw conclusions about the population from a sample of the population… We are actually asking the WHOLE fucking population what they think.

It is not a tie, dammit. Stop spreading misinformation.

As I’ve said before, I’d still vote for Clinton over McCain any day of the week. But I won’t fight nearly as hard for her. That’s what comes of being told that I and my vote don’t matter.