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	<title>Comments on: John McCain&#8217;s 100 Years In Iraq: The Ad The Republican Party Doesn&#8217;t Want You To See</title>
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		<title>By: JohnR</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/29/john-mccains-100-years-in-iraq-the-ad-the-republican-party-doesnt-want-you-to-see/#comment-93046</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SpiderJ: I don&#039;t doubt for a second that he said it; I just don&#039;t believe that he did.  I mean, I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; believe it, because it&#039;s right there, but seriously, is he &lt;i&gt;trying&lt;/i&gt; to lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SpiderJ: I don&#8217;t doubt for a second that he said it; I just don&#8217;t believe that he did.  I mean, I <i>do</i> believe it, because it&#8217;s right there, but seriously, is he <i>trying</i> to lose?</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/29/john-mccains-100-years-in-iraq-the-ad-the-republican-party-doesnt-want-you-to-see/#comment-92915</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John R - McCain said what he said. Rick Hertzberg analyzed it. I&#039;m still waiting for somebody to successfully argue that Hertzberg&#039;s analysis is incorrect, and he posted that in January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John R &#8211; McCain said what he said. Rick Hertzberg analyzed it. I&#8217;m still waiting for somebody to successfully argue that Hertzberg&#8217;s analysis is incorrect, and he posted that in January.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SpiderJ: Did I read that right?

McCain said we&#039;ll stay until there aren&#039;t any more US troops dying in Iraq, and then we&#039;ll stay some more?

Well gee whiz and all heck, if &quot;no more US troops dying in Iraq&quot; is what he wants, there&#039;s a much easier and cheaper solution to that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SpiderJ: Did I read that right?</p>
<p>McCain said we&#8217;ll stay until there aren&#8217;t any more US troops dying in Iraq, and then we&#8217;ll stay some more?</p>
<p>Well gee whiz and all heck, if &#8220;no more US troops dying in Iraq&#8221; is what he wants, there&#8217;s a much easier and cheaper solution to that one.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/29/john-mccains-100-years-in-iraq-the-ad-the-republican-party-doesnt-want-you-to-see/#comment-92887</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please, continue to parrot the lie-by-omission.&quot;

What lie? People are dying in Iraq right now. McCain would keep them there for 100 years. His caveat, &#039;as long as no Americans were dying&#039; makes no sense since Americans are dying right now. The only way your version makes sense is if McCain is not aware there are Americans dying in Iraq right now. 

The quote posted by SpiderJ is an excellent analysis of his statement. McCain will keep the troops there for as long as it takes, even if it takes 100 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please, continue to parrot the lie-by-omission.&#8221;</p>
<p>What lie? People are dying in Iraq right now. McCain would keep them there for 100 years. His caveat, &#8216;as long as no Americans were dying&#8217; makes no sense since Americans are dying right now. The only way your version makes sense is if McCain is not aware there are Americans dying in Iraq right now. </p>
<p>The quote posted by SpiderJ is an excellent analysis of his statement. McCain will keep the troops there for as long as it takes, even if it takes 100 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy: Ed Muskie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy: Ed Muskie.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
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		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the point of the whole quote is McCain showing his unconditional support for Bush&#039;s disastrous war to the 29%ers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the point of the whole quote is McCain showing his unconditional support for Bush&#8217;s disastrous war to the 29%ers.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the saying goes: When you agree to stop telling lies about us, we&#039;ll agree to stop telling &lt;i&gt;the truth&lt;/i&gt; about y&#039;all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the saying goes: When you agree to stop telling lies about us, we&#8217;ll agree to stop telling <i>the truth</i> about y&#8217;all!</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure is taking Mr. Tea a long time. He must be writing up a really good explanation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure is taking Mr. Tea a long time. He must be writing up a really good explanation!</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/29/john-mccains-100-years-in-iraq-the-ad-the-republican-party-doesnt-want-you-to-see/#comment-92791</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and one more thing, Mr. Tea. 

When you&#039;re all done explaining Mr. McCain&#039;s position on Iraq to us, maybe you could dial up McCain HQ and explain it to the candidate. &lt;a&gt;He seems confused:&lt;/a&gt;

* In 2005, McCain decided Iraqis resent our military presence, so we should reject a Korea-like model for long-term troop deployment. He insisted that “U.S. ‘visibility’ was detrimental to the Iraq mission and that Iraqis were responding negatively to America’s presence — positions held by both Obama and Clinton.”

* In 2006, McCain reversed course, and embraced the Korea model for a long-term military presence.

* In 2007, McCain reversed course again, saying the Korean analogy doesn’t work and shouldn’t be followed. “[E]ventually I think because of the nature of the society in Iraq and the religious aspects of it that America eventually withdraws,” McCain told Charlie Rose last fall.

* And in 2008, McCain reversed course yet again, deciding that we should be prepared to leave troops in Iraq, even if it means 100 years or more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and one more thing, Mr. Tea. </p>
<p>When you&#8217;re all done explaining Mr. McCain&#8217;s position on Iraq to us, maybe you could dial up McCain HQ and explain it to the candidate. <a>He seems confused:</a></p>
<p>* In 2005, McCain decided Iraqis resent our military presence, so we should reject a Korea-like model for long-term troop deployment. He insisted that “U.S. ‘visibility’ was detrimental to the Iraq mission and that Iraqis were responding negatively to America’s presence — positions held by both Obama and Clinton.”</p>
<p>* In 2006, McCain reversed course, and embraced the Korea model for a long-term military presence.</p>
<p>* In 2007, McCain reversed course again, saying the Korean analogy doesn’t work and shouldn’t be followed. “[E]ventually I think because of the nature of the society in Iraq and the religious aspects of it that America eventually withdraws,” McCain told Charlie Rose last fall.</p>
<p>* And in 2008, McCain reversed course yet again, deciding that we should be prepared to leave troops in Iraq, even if it means 100 years or more.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/29/john-mccains-100-years-in-iraq-the-ad-the-republican-party-doesnt-want-you-to-see/#comment-92789</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Tea, sir?

Since you seem to be an expert about Mr. McCain&#039;s position on our future in Iraq, could you please explain it to us? I keep seeing videotape of him saying &quot;100 years would be fine with me,&quot; which is, apparently, a gross distortion of his actual position.

If this is a distortion, what &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; his position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Tea, sir?</p>
<p>Since you seem to be an expert about Mr. McCain&#8217;s position on our future in Iraq, could you please explain it to us? I keep seeing videotape of him saying &#8220;100 years would be fine with me,&#8221; which is, apparently, a gross distortion of his actual position.</p>
<p>If this is a distortion, what <em>is</em> his position?</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other news, McCain has tapped for a possible Cabinet several denizens of Lewis Carroll&#039;s loopy-logic Wonderland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news, McCain has tapped for a possible Cabinet several denizens of Lewis Carroll&#8217;s loopy-logic Wonderland.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From TPM:

The New Yorker&#039;s Rick Hertzberg put it all quite elegantly back in January just after McCain started saying this. 

&lt;b&gt;&quot;McCain,&quot; he wrote, &quot;wants to stay in Iraq until no more Americans are getting killed, no matter how long it takes and how many Americans get killed achieving that goal--that is, the goal of not getting any more Americans killed. And once that goal is achieved, we&#039;ll stay.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From TPM:</p>
<p>The New Yorker&#8217;s Rick Hertzberg put it all quite elegantly back in January just after McCain started saying this. </p>
<p><b>&#8220;McCain,&#8221; he wrote, &#8220;wants to stay in Iraq until no more Americans are getting killed, no matter how long it takes and how many Americans get killed achieving that goal&#8211;that is, the goal of not getting any more Americans killed. And once that goal is achieved, we&#8217;ll stay.&#8221;</b></p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been spared Jay Tea&#039;s biting (read: stupid) analysis, thank the Gods of Kobol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been spared Jay Tea&#8217;s biting (read: stupid) analysis, thank the Gods of Kobol.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say something, but Napoleon&#039;s advice comes to mind:

&quot;Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake.&quot;

Or you see someone violating the first rule of holes.

Please, continue to parrot the lie-by-omission. I&#039;m sure this is all just smack dab full of hopey changefulness and new politics.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say something, but Napoleon&#8217;s advice comes to mind:</p>
<p>&#8220;Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or you see someone violating the first rule of holes.</p>
<p>Please, continue to parrot the lie-by-omission. I&#8217;m sure this is all just smack dab full of hopey changefulness and new politics.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s something greatly satisfying in seeing the people who dishonestly recited &quot;Al Gore thinks he invented the Internet&quot; and &quot;John Kerry was for the war before he was against it,&quot; get a big steaming cup of their own medicine.

Was John McCain trying to make a more subtle point about military presence versus actual fighting? Maybe. But &quot;nuance&quot; was cause for derision not so long ago, wasn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s something greatly satisfying in seeing the people who dishonestly recited &#8220;Al Gore thinks he invented the Internet&#8221; and &#8220;John Kerry was for the war before he was against it,&#8221; get a big steaming cup of their own medicine.</p>
<p>Was John McCain trying to make a more subtle point about military presence versus actual fighting? Maybe. But &#8220;nuance&#8221; was cause for derision not so long ago, wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For extra rich nutty goodness, &lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-where-did-the-dnc-get-its-ied-footage/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt; to see what makes Michelle Malkin angry today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For extra rich nutty goodness, <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-where-did-the-dnc-get-its-ied-footage/" rel="nofollow">click here</a> to see what makes Michelle Malkin angry today.</p>
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