Comments on: Clinton’s $10 Million Is Spin

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:36:33 +0000

No, I’m not in Hannity’s camp.

The only reason I ask is because he said the exact same thing.
You said that Obama “outright lies.” I was simply asking for something to back that up. I’m sorry, I don’t get it. You don’t trust Obama, okay, fine. But you trust Clinton more? After all this spinning, fabrication and obfuscation? I don’t get it. Maybe you can ’splain it up to me.

By: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:42:13 +0000

Matthew G. Saroff:
Talking about Marc Rich is a right wing talking point? WTF?? Talking about Vincent Foster is a right wing talking point, not Marc Rich. It was wrong to pardon Marc Rich. If Hillary wants to claim Bill’s eight years in the WH as her experience then she is also going to have to answer for her Weather Underground nonsense. Obama was right to point out that Bill pardoned two members(since she tried to smear him on it). In a debate this fall when McBush talks about Katrina and the lies McBush said yesterday, Obama should bring up the birthday cake picture. It’s not going negative, it’s hitting the bastards with the truth.

By: merl

merl — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:24:45 +0000

I didn’t suggest I would find anything for you. You suggested that. Fuck off.

By: merl

merl — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:23:51 +0000

No, I’m not in Hannity’s camp. I’ll vote for Obama whether I like it or not.
I don’t trust the man. But, I trust any Repub at all much less.
I don’t want a President who will try to work with Repubs. Fuck Repubs. And his bullshit about the “social security” crises just rubs me the wrong way.

By: Sean D. Martin

Sean D. Martin — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:23:45 +0000

merl: Man, Oliver what the fuck is your problem, anyway? Does the sainted Obama never stretch the truth or outright lie like every fucking politician in the world?

This is interesting. Notice it doesn’t say Hillary isn’t lying. It says Obama lies also. It’s basically the “Yeah, so what if I did? You did it, too.” defense used by 6-year-olds and those who know they’ve just been caught. It’s an admission.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:09:47 +0000

Merl? How about those outright lies you were gonna find for me?

By: Matthew G. Saroff

Matthew G. Saroff — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:56:01 +0000

Oliver, you took a preliminary report, the source of the report has corrected, and now you are saying that, “They can’t tell a straight story about it.”

FWIW, since I started blogging last may, I’ve had averaging over one correction a month, or about one month, and this does not count my many (many many) bad predictions, which I fess up to.

Get over yourself.

By: Enlightened Liberal

Enlightened Liberal — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:53:10 +0000

“It’s getting embarrasing how you jump on any anti-Hillary garbage you find on the web like a magpie with a shiny bauble, and never ever even look at Obama’s dirty laundry.”

Yes because Talk left never wrote anything about how Obama eating a waffle says something about his ability to tackle tough defense issues. Let me fix your statement for you:

“It’s getting embarrasing how you jump on any anti-Obama garbage you find on the web like a magpie with a shiny bauble, and never ever even look at Hillary’s dirty laundry.”

You’re welcome.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:47:29 +0000

The Clinton campaign has released something like 3-4 statements about whether or not they’ve raised $10 million. It’s a pretty simple thing and yet they can’t tell a straight story about it.

By: Wellstone

Wellstone — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:40:42 +0000

From the very same link Ollie gave us:

[If you’re reading this story because of a link from the HuffPost, I’ve updated my reporting here. It looks like Clinton did rake in $10M as of sometime late yesterday, based on a claimed total of 100,000 donations since Tuesday night.}

Time for a, uh, disclaimer, Ollie, no?

It’s getting embarrasing how you jump on any anti-Hillary garbage you find on the web like a magpie with a shiny bauble, and never ever even look at Obama’s dirty laundry.

By: anotherbozo

anotherbozo — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:46:54 +0000

The day after the primary cable news reported she got $6 mill – before anybody had a chance to tinker with the number. I’ll go with that.

By: Matthew G. Saroff

Matthew G. Saroff — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:43:14 +0000

Does Marc Rich ring a bell? Bullshit right wing talking point, sounds like Candy Crowley, without the charm. BTW, the new York Times, after saying it was just $8 million, now says 10 million, so I'd say that the back of the envelope calcs lose to the NY Times. Conversely, I'd argue that SOME of those first time voters were the spoused of folks who already maxed out, but that it's because I'm a cynic. It's not Barack, it's not Hillary, it's the fucking ninnies on both fucking sides that get to me.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:33:35 +0000

Does the sainted Obama never stretch the truth or outright lie like every fucking politician in the world?

Would you do me a favor and point out 3? I haven’t seen any so far.

Does Sen Clinton hang out with former Weather Underground leaders?

So you’re in Hannity’s camp now, merl? So sad.

By: jr

jr — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:20:47 +0000

every dollar donated to Hillary is a vote for McCain and republican senate and congress candidates

By: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:49:48 +0000

Merl:
Does Marc Rich ring a bell? Or the people Enlightened Liberal mentions?

By: Enlightened Liberal

Enlightened Liberal — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:45:38 +0000

“Does Sen Clinton hang out with former Weather Underground leaders?”

No. Neither does Senator Obama. Hillary “hangs out” with people who are much more destructive to America, like Rupert Murdoch and Dick Scaife.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:31:35 +0000

Man, Oliver what the fuck is your problem, anyway?
I’m crazy in that I don’t like people who crap all over the party and its members and its activists. I’m kooky that way.

By: merl

merl — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:06:43 +0000

Man, Oliver what the fuck is your problem, anyway? Does the sainted Obama never stretch the truth or outright lie like every fucking politician in the world?
Does Sen Clinton hang out with former Weather Underground leaders?
I’ll probably vote for Obama anyway and hope he doesn’t screw us too badly.