I expected something like this.
Barack Obama can take some solace out of Hillary Clinton’s new television ad in Pennsylvania. At least one of her supporters featured in the spot hammering Obama for his small town comments isn’t registered to vote in Pennsylvania.
Clyde Thomas, who sports a goatee in the ad and says, “the good people of Pennsylvania deserve a lot better than what Barack Obama said,” is actually registered in New Jersey. He voted there for Clinton Feb. 5. He only recently moved to Bethlehem, Pa.
A friend of mine noted that the Clinton camp has a habit of super-shortsighted flailing. They attack and pile-on at the moment without any sort of long term plan for what to do. It feels good, so they do it, without paying attention to any of the possible long term consequence.
A left-wing face mullet. Whoda thunk it?
OW, you gotta check this.
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/bosnia-and-back.html
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hilary clinton needs to quit the race now. i never believed the clinton team could be so slimy and out of touch, but they are proving it each and every day they stay in the race.
i am a die-hard democrat and liberal, but if hilary somehow snakes this nomination i will have no choice but to seriously consider voting for john mccain in the general election. after watching hilary completely distort reality for a somber stump speech moment time and time again, i see no compelling reason to vote for her to be president this fall.
stupid campaign tricks like the above commercial just make me want to vomit. you would think the presumptive democratic front runner would run a clean & honest campaign.
somehow, i believe that george w. bush secretly wants hilary to win the general election over john mccain because she probably offers the best chance for continuation of bad bush policy. (pun NOT-intended)
revenantive: i am a die-hard democrat and liberal, but if hilary somehow snakes this nomination i will have no choice but to seriously consider voting for john mccain in the general election.
As a “die-hard democrat and liberal” would you really like McCain as president? If you don’t want Hillary (understandable) why not find someone you WOULD like and vote for them?
I don’t get the “I don’t like my party’s candidate so I’m going to vote for the other party’s candidate (not that I like them either)” approach.
Don’t do it, Revenantive. It’s not worth it. Hold your nose and vote. A trained harp seal would make a better President than McNovoCain.
Pick your battles, but don’t root for the opposing team.
Ditto, Rev. If Clinton somehow overcomes the mathematical difficulties of her gaining the nomination, she’s still a better choice than McCain.
See, I don’t know enough Democrats who say they will vote for McnovoCain to make a difference, but if I could reach them all, I would say this; Don’t be an idiot.
We know that republicans vote against their own interests, we’re used to that and we can’t change their minds about it. Just don’t be like them. Who is going to do the least damage to the country? Vote for them.
Thank you.
is it wrong to think that perhaps things have to get really bad in order to get better?
my theory is…assuming hilary completes the sale of her soul to the devil and manages to get the nomination…john mccain would win in an open general election. the thought is that hilary would bring out the ‘vast right-wing conspiracy’ en masse and win by a thread bare margin like bush in 2000 & 2004.
where i’m going with this is the continuation of a republican presidency into a 3rd & perhaps 4th term could push this country into a disastrous state of affairs. we all know the republican track record on economic policy and the war, so obviously mccain has the opportunity to totally turn america into a second rate fascist corporate state. (…like we’re not there already, hahaheh)
the bright side to all of this could be a fresh democratic challenge in 2012 that would restore the super-majority in congress & perhaps even elect a democrot as president.
obviously i don’t want a republican as president in 2009. would i hold my nose and vote for hilary? probably. no matter what, i can’t listen to hilary in a serious way ever again. i know that i am not alone with this viewpoint.
i have felt from the beginning (ie, a year ago, even before i heard of barack obama, or ron paul for that matter) that hillary the dem nominee would be doomed to fail, because of the baggage and easy targets on her back from the bill clinton presidency.
i think she’d actually make a (nominally) better president than obama, but i think he’s got a better chance in the general election.
and boy, the things her campaign has done in the last couple of months have turned my stomach.
“where i’m going with this is the continuation of a republican presidency into a 3rd & perhaps 4th term could push this country into a disastrous state of affairs.”
And it’s great now? $3.50 gallon gas, home prices plummetting, torture is U.S. policy, rampant inflation, Iraq is a disaster, extreme right-wing judges appointed that will be there for at least a generation? I really don’t want to know what would be worse. I’ll vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic choice, proudly. Fortunately, barring catastrophe, I will be able to vote for Barack Obama this November.
The point was that Obama insulted Pennsylvanians (and others,) not that he insulted Pennsylvanian voters. This guy was a Pennsylvanian and he was insulted. Who cares if he votes in another state?
That’s a pretty damning commercial. Now Obama will never get the primary votes of Clinton campaign operatives!
Actually, the point was that it was perceived that Obama insulted small-town voters. He did no such thing. He stated a fact of the human condition and is being lambasted for daring to speak truths we’d rather not hear.
People struggling with finances are going to be bitter about it. People bitter about their own helplessness on one issue will cling to the issues that they still feel they can grasp some control over. “I can’t force the gas prices down, but I can make sure that my kids have a right to pray to the one true God Jesus in school!”
If we’re not mature enough to hear those things, then it just further indicates what a shambles our country has become.
One thing about Obama’s campaign to date is how he has elevated the discourse about the soundbite driven “gotchas!” driven by the press and Hillary’s campaign. I may have too much confidence in the American electorate, but the poll numbers show me that America is tired of the nonsense and wants someone who provides a real discussion on what is right and wrong in America. Hillary and McSames campaigns look shrill and unworthy in comparison.
is it wrong to think that perhaps things have to get really bad in order to get better?
Any addict will tell you that you have to hit rock-bottom before you can be successful in recovery.
What are we addicted to, though?
I understand Rev’s premise, but I don’t think your metaphor is accurate. In my mind, what we’ve had for eight years is some drunken fool behind the wheel of our car, running into parked cars and street signs and generally causing several thousand dollars in body work. And if McCain gets elected, we’ll have, instead of a drunken fool, a road-raging old man who can barely see anymore. After four more years, we’d have to total the vehicle.
If it were really a car I was talking about, an honest mechanic would doubtless be telling us that it was a wiser decision to sell this one for scrap and buy a new model.
Thing is, we can’t buy a new model. We’re stuck driving the junker we have.
And oy, the gas prices these days.
I see your point, Spider. Perhaps then it’s time to “Pimp my Ride” so to speak, strip it all down and put in all new components. Continuing your analogy, I think the frame is still good.
I’m not saying that we, as Americans, are addicts. I’m just saying that we may have to bottom out before we can recover from the last 8 years.