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	<title>Comments on: Clinton Waves The Bitter Flag, Gets Blowback</title>
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	<description>Like Kryptonite To Stupid</description>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-91055</link>
		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, well, I think the record would indicate that, per Oliver&#039;s recent &quot;controversial&quot; kamikaze metaphor, Clinton could give a fuck at this point if she tanks her own campaign trying to tear down Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, well, I think the record would indicate that, per Oliver&#8217;s recent &#8220;controversial&#8221; kamikaze metaphor, Clinton could give a fuck at this point if she tanks her own campaign trying to tear down Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-91053</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And Clinton will have no one to blame but her self.&lt;/i&gt;

So?  That hasn&#039;t stopped her from never placing blame on her self in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And Clinton will have no one to blame but her self.</i></p>
<p>So?  That hasn&#8217;t stopped her from never placing blame on her self in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-91049</link>
		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I still fail to see blowback...&quot;

Yeah, neither does/did Clinton. Attacking Obama as an &quot;out of touch, elitist&quot; is not only the kind of groundless bullshit that conservatives like to manipulate the media with, it&#039;s also the worst thing that Clinton could have done for her own campaign, should she become the nominee. As I said in another thread, Clinton and her supporters have now validated the reactionary premise of this classic conservative canard -- &quot;liberals are elitists!!!!&quot; -- and will have no grounds on which to rebuff it should it, once again, be leveled at Clinton during a general election campaign. It&#039;s easy to see Oliver&#039;s point. 

Since Clinton has slammed Obama for being out of touch with religious and gun-owning small town residents, she&#039;s opened herself up to questions from conservatives about her own religious, gun culture bona fides. In fact, she&#039;s been so righteous in her attacks on Obama over this issue, conservatives will demand nothing less than verifiable proof that Clinton can assemble a rifle blinded-folded while reciting the lord&#039;s prayer in a church pew. If Clinton, by some miracle, wins the nomination, conservatives will  mercilessly hoist her on her own petard. That&#039;s blowback, my friend. And Clinton will have no one to blame but her self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I still fail to see blowback&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, neither does/did Clinton. Attacking Obama as an &#8220;out of touch, elitist&#8221; is not only the kind of groundless bullshit that conservatives like to manipulate the media with, it&#8217;s also the worst thing that Clinton could have done for her own campaign, should she become the nominee. As I said in another thread, Clinton and her supporters have now validated the reactionary premise of this classic conservative canard &#8212; &#8220;liberals are elitists!!!!&#8221; &#8212; and will have no grounds on which to rebuff it should it, once again, be leveled at Clinton during a general election campaign. It&#8217;s easy to see Oliver&#8217;s point. </p>
<p>Since Clinton has slammed Obama for being out of touch with religious and gun-owning small town residents, she&#8217;s opened herself up to questions from conservatives about her own religious, gun culture bona fides. In fact, she&#8217;s been so righteous in her attacks on Obama over this issue, conservatives will demand nothing less than verifiable proof that Clinton can assemble a rifle blinded-folded while reciting the lord&#8217;s prayer in a church pew. If Clinton, by some miracle, wins the nomination, conservatives will  mercilessly hoist her on her own petard. That&#8217;s blowback, my friend. And Clinton will have no one to blame but her self.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mahablog &#187; Identity Crises</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-90995</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mahablog &#187; Identity Crises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here are some really good &#8220;see alsos&#8221;: Kevin Hayden at American Street; Ron Beasley at Middle Earth Journal; RJ Eskow at Huffington Post; Oliver Willis. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here are some really good &#8220;see alsos&#8221;: Kevin Hayden at American Street; Ron Beasley at Middle Earth Journal; RJ Eskow at Huffington Post; Oliver Willis. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-90971</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but tagging the Clintons as 60s-era hippies has been a right-wing staple for a long, long time. Gingrich used that one.

So it&#039;s all fine, as long as you don&#039;t mind sounding like Gingrich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but tagging the Clintons as 60s-era hippies has been a right-wing staple for a long, long time. Gingrich used that one.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s all fine, as long as you don&#8217;t mind sounding like Gingrich.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-90969</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her words aren&#039;t about her? She goes on this harangue about shooting, etc. then when asked, ok you say you&#039;re so hot on this issue - when did you last do these things? And she tries to punt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her words aren&#8217;t about her? She goes on this harangue about shooting, etc. then when asked, ok you say you&#8217;re so hot on this issue &#8211; when did you last do these things? And she tries to punt.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-90966</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still fail to see blowback, but atleast you do I guess. If you&#039;re going to be talking about what you just said please put an article that can prove your point. All that told me was &quot;so what has Clinton done in terms of guns/religion lately?&quot; and she chose to decline to answer those. Nothing in it about being tagged or anything at all.

Really what she said is right. The fact that she either is an atheist or a hardcore religious nut, rather she fights for gun rights or not it doesn&#039;t matter. It isn&#039;t about her, it&#039;s about what Obama said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still fail to see blowback, but atleast you do I guess. If you&#8217;re going to be talking about what you just said please put an article that can prove your point. All that told me was &#8220;so what has Clinton done in terms of guns/religion lately?&#8221; and she chose to decline to answer those. Nothing in it about being tagged or anything at all.</p>
<p>Really what she said is right. The fact that she either is an atheist or a hardcore religious nut, rather she fights for gun rights or not it doesn&#8217;t matter. It isn&#8217;t about her, it&#8217;s about what Obama said.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-90956</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never been any sort of fan of the &#039;60s ethos. That&#039;s not a right-wing position to have. You&#039;ve read me for a long time and know that I am not down with a lot of what the &#039;60s aimed for or turned out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been any sort of fan of the &#8217;60s ethos. That&#8217;s not a right-wing position to have. You&#8217;ve read me for a long time and know that I am not down with a lot of what the &#8217;60s aimed for or turned out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-90955</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, speaking of right-wing talking points...ahem!
&lt;blockquote&gt;In a strange way the Clintons are once again showing the folly of that ’60s mantra: If it feels good… do it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, speaking of right-wing talking points&#8230;ahem!</p>
<blockquote><p>In a strange way the Clintons are once again showing the folly of that ’60s mantra: If it feels good… do it. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/13/clinton-waves-the-bitter-flag-gets-blowback/#comment-90954</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see what&#039;s so bad here be a little less biased towards Obama please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see what&#8217;s so bad here be a little less biased towards Obama please.</p>
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