Comments on: Another Con Knock-Off, Freedom’s Watch, Has Trouble http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: --Blue Girl http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90952 --Blue Girl Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:26:36 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90952 Since when do you righties begrudge success? Oh, right, when liberals experience it and give something back... Since when do you righties begrudge success? Oh, right, when liberals experience it and give something back…

]]> By: jr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90891 jr Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:44:09 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90891 People like natural grass, not astro turf People like natural grass, not astro turf

]]> By: Enlightened Liberal http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90888 Enlightened Liberal Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:58:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90888 "Wow. Somebody should give Ripley’s or Guinness a call. I don’t think a hair has ever been split like that." Anyone know where I can get an inexpensive irony meter on a Sunday morning? Mine just shattered at 7:04am for some reason. “Wow. Somebody should give Ripley’s or Guinness a call. I don’t think a hair has ever been split like that.”

Anyone know where I can get an inexpensive irony meter on a Sunday morning? Mine just shattered at 7:04am for some reason.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90882 Jay Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:04:10 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90882 <i>They got to where they are by being effective.</i> Right. The millions they had and the millions they've received from millionaire and billionaire donors had nothing to do with it. <i>Moveon was formed by normal Americans, not political operatives as was Redstate. Because of that, it has a level of authenticity that groups like Freedom Watch and Red State can never have.</i> Wow. Somebody should give Ripley's or Guinness a call. I don't think a hair has ever been split like that. They got to where they are by being effective.

Right. The millions they had and the millions they’ve received from millionaire and billionaire donors had nothing to do with it.

Moveon was formed by normal Americans, not political operatives as was Redstate. Because of that, it has a level of authenticity that groups like Freedom Watch and Red State can never have.

Wow. Somebody should give Ripley’s or Guinness a call. I don’t think a hair has ever been split like that.

]]> By: Enlightened Liberal http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90880 Enlightened Liberal Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:40:14 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90880 Once again, J misses the point. Moveon was formed by normal Americans, not political operatives as was Redstate. Because of that, it has a level of authenticity that groups like Freedom Watch and Red State can never have. Once again, J misses the point. Moveon was formed by normal Americans, not political operatives as was Redstate. Because of that, it has a level of authenticity that groups like Freedom Watch and Red State can never have.

]]> By: MobiusKlein http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90863 MobiusKlein Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:23:41 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90863 Wes Boyd and Joan Blades were software entrepreneurs who made their money selling screen savers (Berkeley Systems / After Dark / You Don't Know Jack) After they made their money, they used their experience and motivations to do something useful. They were one of the first large online political movements. They got to where they are by being effective. So yes, normal Americans. And they put Moveon together, and the 'right' has not done anything one tenth of what they did. Wes Boyd and Joan Blades were software entrepreneurs who made their money selling screen savers (Berkeley Systems / After Dark / You Don’t Know Jack) After they made their money, they used their experience and motivations to do something useful.

They were one of the first large online political movements. They got to where they are by being effective.

So yes, normal Americans. And they put Moveon together, and the ‘right’ has not done anything one tenth of what they did.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90858 Jay Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:11:38 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90858 <i>MoveOn was founded by normal Americans, built a huge grassroots membership,</i> Moveon.org was founded by normal Americans? Wes Boyd and Joan Blades were <i>multi-millionaires</i> when they started the organization and has relied on funding from wealthy donors like George Soros and Linda Pritzker. So please stop pretending that it was the result of a bunch of people scraping together a few bucks here and there. Moveon.org was founded by millionaires and came to be a political force thanks to donations from other millionaires and billionaires. MoveOn was founded by normal Americans, built a huge grassroots membership,

Moveon.org was founded by normal Americans? Wes Boyd and Joan Blades were multi-millionaires when they started the organization and has relied on funding from wealthy donors like George Soros and Linda Pritzker. So please stop pretending that it was the result of a bunch of people scraping together a few bucks here and there. Moveon.org was founded by millionaires and came to be a political force thanks to donations from other millionaires and billionaires.

]]> By: --Blue Girl http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90826 --Blue Girl Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:34:19 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90826 Heh. I love it when agenda whores get virulent syphilis. Heh. I love it when agenda whores get virulent syphilis.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90823 C.S.Strowbridge Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:50:29 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/12/another-con-knock-off-freedoms-watch-has-trouble/#comment-90823 They can't create a grassroots organization, because they don't have grassroots support from enough people. It has to start from the bottom up, but they don't have a large enough base to survive. Most importantly, that won't change till they change their politics. They can’t create a grassroots organization, because they don’t have grassroots support from enough people. It has to start from the bottom up, but they don’t have a large enough base to survive.

Most importantly, that won’t change till they change their politics.

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