Comments on: McCain is To Bush As Vista is to XP http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: midderpidge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90627 midderpidge Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:11:24 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90627 I think a better analogy is McCain is a straight talker the same as Bush was the Businessman President. Both pretend. I think a better analogy is McCain is a straight talker the same as Bush was the Businessman President. Both pretend.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90616 Sean D. Martin Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:18:39 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90616 Agreed that it certainly should be. But it is an available resort. So can someone (Oliver? Anyone? Anyone? Beuhler?) explain to me what's wrong with what McCain said in the quote Oliver posted? Agreed that it certainly should be. But it is an available resort.

So can someone (Oliver? Anyone? Anyone? Beuhler?) explain to me what’s wrong with what McCain said in the quote Oliver posted?

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90611 Duros62 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:12:16 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90611 Well, obviously, pre-emptive war is a last resort. Well, obviously, pre-emptive war is a last resort.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90607 Sean D. Martin Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:04:18 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90607 SDM: Where is the line drawn? Duros: Hard to say Absolutely. And I think for all the stupid things he does say and believe, McCain gets jumped on for being McCain even when some of what he says makes sense. “I don’t think you could make a blanket statement about pre-emptive war, because obviously, it depends on the threat that the United States of America faces.” being a case in point. Is anyone going to say there is <b>never</b> a situation in which the US can act pre-emptively? Because if they won't, then they agree with John McCain. And the only thing left to discuss is degree. SDM: Where is the line drawn?
Duros: Hard to say

Absolutely. And I think for all the stupid things he does say and believe, McCain gets jumped on for being McCain even when some of what he says makes sense. “I don’t think you could make a blanket statement about pre-emptive war, because obviously, it depends on the threat that the United States of America faces.” being a case in point.

Is anyone going to say there is never a situation in which the US can act pre-emptively? Because if they won’t, then they agree with John McCain. And the only thing left to discuss is degree.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90601 Duros62 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:47:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90601 <i>Where is the line drawn?</i> Hard to say, Sean. if you complain to the cops about your neighbor, they'll tell you they can't do anything because he hasn't done anything wrong....yet. But if you act "pre-emptively", you get charged. Perhaps it is a matter of scale, where different rules apply to the State. Where is the line drawn?
Hard to say, Sean. if you complain to the cops about your neighbor, they’ll tell you they can’t do anything because he hasn’t done anything wrong….yet. But if you act “pre-emptively”, you get charged.
Perhaps it is a matter of scale, where different rules apply to the State.

]]> By: ResumeMan http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90558 ResumeMan Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:04:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90558 That analogy gives way too much credit to Bush (or sells XP short, either way). At this point WinXP is a perfectly fine operating system, whereas Vista is a horror show. As said above, if you just leave out XP, Bush is like WinMe, and McCain then is like Vista. That analogy gives way too much credit to Bush (or sells XP short, either way). At this point WinXP is a perfectly fine operating system, whereas Vista is a horror show.

As said above, if you just leave out XP, Bush is like WinMe, and McCain then is like Vista.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90547 Sean D. Martin Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:30:08 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90547 <blockquote>“I don’t think you could make a blanket statement about pre-emptive war, because obviously, it depends on the threat that the United States of America faces.”</blockquote> Do we always have to let the bad guys shoot first? Are there no circumstances in which a country can't take a pre-emptive move to defend itself? If I look across the fence and see my neighbor building up an arsenal and pointing it at my house, can't I strike the actual first physical blow and smash his guns? Or do I have to wait until he launches his salvo and my house is dust? Or is it just a matter of scale? I can bomb his nuclear plant because he might use it to make bomb-grade material, but can't launch a wholesale invasion. Where is the line drawn?

“I don’t think you could make a blanket statement about pre-emptive war, because obviously, it depends on the threat that the United States of America faces.”

Do we always have to let the bad guys shoot first? Are there no circumstances in which a country can’t take a pre-emptive move to defend itself?

If I look across the fence and see my neighbor building up an arsenal and pointing it at my house, can’t I strike the actual first physical blow and smash his guns? Or do I have to wait until he launches his salvo and my house is dust?

Or is it just a matter of scale? I can bomb his nuclear plant because he might use it to make bomb-grade material, but can’t launch a wholesale invasion. Where is the line drawn?

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90522 Duros62 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:57:19 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90522 <i>Would that parallel Bush’s “History will like totally vindicate me and junk” argument?</i> Not a chance. Would that parallel Bush’s “History will like totally vindicate me and junk” argument?
Not a chance.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90521 Duros62 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:55:46 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90521 Bush is more like Windows 95ME Bush is more like Windows 95ME

]]> By: ed http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90512 ed Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:25:32 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90512 Best Analogy Ever Best
Analogy
Ever

]]> By: Rex Mundane http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90507 Rex Mundane Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:16:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90507 But XP eventually was made to work fairly well by the time SP2 came out. Would that parallel Bush's "History will like totally vindicate me and junk" argument? Plus... alright I'll just upfront and admit it, I kinda like Vista. I haven't been having the same problems with it other people have, large-scale networking, hardware compatability and such, which isnt to say i think they're insignificant, just that they haven't gotten in my way yet, but seriously what major OS doesnt have a rocky start with compatability? (Well yes, Leopard didn't, but when you control the hardware market as well as the OS thats a bit of an unfair advantage) I seriously don't know how to deal with this though, am I like the only person in all of the tubular interwebs that doesn't have a grudge against Vista? But XP eventually was made to work fairly well by the time SP2 came out. Would that parallel Bush’s “History will like totally vindicate me and junk” argument?

Plus… alright I’ll just upfront and admit it, I kinda like Vista. I haven’t been having the same problems with it other people have, large-scale networking, hardware compatability and such, which isnt to say i think they’re insignificant, just that they haven’t gotten in my way yet, but seriously what major OS doesnt have a rocky start with compatability? (Well yes, Leopard didn’t, but when you control the hardware market as well as the OS thats a bit of an unfair advantage) I seriously don’t know how to deal with this though, am I like the only person in all of the tubular interwebs that doesn’t have a grudge against Vista?

]]> By: jr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90501 jr Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:00:54 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90501 "maverick! straight talk!"-cable news on McCain as he copies ever failed Bush policy “maverick! straight talk!”-cable news on McCain as he copies ever failed Bush policy

]]> By: jerry http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90496 jerry Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:42:37 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90496 I hope you're wrong. Vista is way way worse than XP. (I'll refrain from making pod person / obamabot jokes.) I hope you’re wrong. Vista is way way worse than XP.

(I’ll refrain from making pod person / obamabot jokes.)

]]> By: Lib4 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90480 Lib4 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:32:00 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/mccain-is-to-bush-as-vista-is-to-xp/#comment-90480 What a great analogy..... I mean if GWB is XP lord help us with a McCain train wreck presidency What a great analogy…..
I mean if GWB is XP lord help us with a McCain train wreck presidency

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