So at this point I have seen over 200 sites, the vast, vast majority posting either the trailer for Expelled, or the interview Stein had with Sproul, and the bloggers exhorting their readers to go see expelled, and pass the info on to all their pastors, churches, church memebers, youth groups, etc.

The sad part is that most of these folks are just GOD-crazed nutty. In Denver they are going to have Expelled marathons, where, I kid you not, people are going to see it 12 times straight!@

Another sad thing, is even though I tried to be non-attack in my essay, just pointing out facts – (I will post it at the end of this message), and supporting those facts, I would say that 90% of my posts never made it through moderation. These people are not even willing to listen to another position.

But when James Dobson personally endorses Expelled, these people think that Jesus is knocking them on the side of the head, telling them that if they don’t see this movie, they are going straight to hell. – It’s scary, but probably at least 20% of the population falls into this category.

Its like Isaac Asimov wrote in a great article about creationists –

“It is religion that recruits their squadrons. Tens of millions of Americans, who neither know nor understand the actual arguments for or even against evolution, march in the army of the night with their Bibles held high. And they are a strong and frightening force, impervious to, and immunized against, the feeble lance of mere reason.”

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/azimov_creationism.html

Asimov wrote this in 1984 (huh?)

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here is the essay I have been posting-

This films’ main thesis, that anyone in the science community who believes in God, or is a Darwin dissenter is being “expelled” is false at its core.

In a New York Times interview, Walter Ruloff (producer of Expelled) said that researchers, who had studied cellular mechanisms, made findings suggestive of an intelligent designer. “But they are afraid to report them”.
Mr. Ruloff also cited Dr. Francis S. Collins, a geneticist who directs the National Human Genome Research Institute and whose book, “The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief”, explains how he came to embrace his Christian faith. Mr. Ruloff said that Dr. Collins separates his religious beliefs from his scientific work only because “he is toeing the party line”.

That’s “just ludicrous,” Dr. Collins said in a telephone interview. While many of his scientific colleagues are not religious and some are “a bit puzzled” by his faith, he said, “they are generally very respectful.” He said that if the problem Mr. Ruloff describes existed, he is certain he would know about it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/science/27expelled.html?pagewanted=2

Similarly, Dr. Ken Miller is a professed Christian who wrote “Finding Darwin’s God” (which I suggest you read). Dr. Miller has not been “expelled” in any fashion for his belief in God.

The movie tries to make the case that “Big Science” is nothing but a huge atheist conspiracy out to silence believers, but only presents a very one-sided look at some of the Discovery Institute’s “martyrs”.

Carolyn Crocker “expelled”? – No.
Her annual teaching contract was not renewed. Was she “fired” for daring to bring God into research? – No. She was hired to teach Cell Biology, and she decided to ignore the schools’ curriculum and substitute her own curriculum. Here is her powerpoint presentation.
http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=5152;st=210#entry97227

Guillermo Gonzalez “expelled”? – No.
He was not granted tenure. The film doesn’t bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he had only brought in only a miniscule amount of grant money. Nor does it bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he failed to mentor a single student through to their PhD. Nor does it mention that in his career at ISU, his previous excellent record of publication had dropped precipitously.

Richard von Sternberg “expelled”? – No.
Sternberg continues to work for NIH in the same capacity. Of course the movie doesn’t bring up his underhanded tactics in getting Meyers work published.

This movie attempts to influence it’s viewers with dishonesty, half-truths, and by a completely one-sided presentation of the facts.

If a scientists’ research is not accepted by the scientific community, it isn’t because the scientist either believes or doesn’t believe in God or Darwin, it is usually because they are producing bad science. Like the idea of Intelligent Design.

For additional information on the truth about this movie go to
http://www.expelledexposed.com

any comments as to how I can improve it so as to break thru the brick walls I’ve been coming up against would be appreciated.

Benjamin Franklin

When Dawkins told PZ Myers after seeing the film (in the imbroglio you mentioned) that the best part of this excresence was some CG footage which seemed quite different from the rest of the movie, Myers speculated this could be the XVIVO footage because Creationists have stolen it before. However it looks like, being aware of the actions taken against Dembski after he stole it, the Expelled crew cobbled up their own animation which just copies the XVIVO work with some different colors so as to avoid direct theft. But it looks like just filing the serial numbers off isn’t quite enough to weasel around the intellectual property issues outlined by Peter Irons.

(gets popcorn ready)

And I’m honestly looking forward to buying a ticket to this on opening night. Probably hand out flyers with the facts against the crap the movie tries to pull. Anything that keeps this film in theaters long enough for the general public to take the hint about how generally repulsive the whole ID movement is can only be good for everyone.