Quoting Derbyshire:
From what I can see, the main reason for this is the great reluctance of nonblack parents to send their kids to schools with too many black students, which they assume are beset by all the problems associated with poorly run public schools. Do you think that they — actually we, as my wife and I share this reluctance — are wrong to think like this? How will you persuade us to think otherwise?
Persuade you? Damn, Derbs. How about you get off your privileged, knows-what’s-best-for-everybody butt and go check it out for yourself?
Or are you afraid of a place where there are “too many” black kids?
Guys like Derbyshire don’t think “poorly run public schools” are good enough for their own children, but won’t devote their own time to making them any better. Then they pretend to be shocked that other people’s children don’t learn enough to pull themselves up from the disadvantages of being stuck in those schools.
Oliver and Quaker, you may be very surprised to learn that the “too many Blacks” criteria is a liberal policy. In San Francisco, Asian parents recently sued the city to prevent their children from being bused across town to the Black neighborhoods. The policy of San Francisco is that there can not be too many kids of one race in any school. So they have a limit. Integration is what they call it. They also do it because, without Asians, the mostly Black schools would test abysmally low and make the teachers and their higher ups look bad.
At elite universities, such as Cal Berkeley, they have a “too many Asians” policy. If it were not for the too many Asians policy, I believe that no Blacks whatsoever, and few Hispanics and few Whites would get into top colleges. Asians would be filling all the slots.
As for your High School, Oliver, that was a long time ago. None of you are aware or want to admit the degree of pathology many kids in the inner city Black communities suffer from. I would never ever send a non-Black child to school in a majority Black school. I went to them, I know. They’d end up more racist than kids who went to all white schools or they’d just bend to peer pressure and become ignorant, undereducated losers, who were tolerant of Blacks but knew nothing else of any import.
We can’t make the kids behave in school by throwing money at them. Until the parents of these kids can impart a value for education, such as the Asians have, you can expect failure on a grand scale.
Until the parents of these kids can impart a value for education,
I see.
It’s not the crumbling school buildings, the overcrowded classrooms, the lack of facilities, the outdated textbooks, the inappropriate curricula, or the meddling of politicians–it’s those damned black parents who don’t care if their kids get an education. They’re the only real problem.
That how you see it, mialexa? You must have been a teacher in one of these schools to know so much about it.
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Shouldn’t that tosser be worried about schools on his side of the pond?
Quoting Derbyshire:
From what I can see, the main reason for this is the great reluctance of nonblack parents to send their kids to schools with too many black students, which they assume are beset by all the problems associated with poorly run public schools. Do you think that they — actually we, as my wife and I share this reluctance — are wrong to think like this? How will you persuade us to think otherwise?
Persuade you? Damn, Derbs. How about you get off your privileged, knows-what’s-best-for-everybody butt and go check it out for yourself?
Or are you afraid of a place where there are “too many” black kids?
There it is, Quaker.
You’re damn right, “there it is.”
Guys like Derbyshire don’t think “poorly run public schools” are good enough for their own children, but won’t devote their own time to making them any better. Then they pretend to be shocked that other people’s children don’t learn enough to pull themselves up from the disadvantages of being stuck in those schools.
Privilege? It’s like they never heard of it.
Oliver and Quaker, you may be very surprised to learn that the “too many Blacks” criteria is a liberal policy. In San Francisco, Asian parents recently sued the city to prevent their children from being bused across town to the Black neighborhoods. The policy of San Francisco is that there can not be too many kids of one race in any school. So they have a limit. Integration is what they call it. They also do it because, without Asians, the mostly Black schools would test abysmally low and make the teachers and their higher ups look bad.
At elite universities, such as Cal Berkeley, they have a “too many Asians” policy. If it were not for the too many Asians policy, I believe that no Blacks whatsoever, and few Hispanics and few Whites would get into top colleges. Asians would be filling all the slots.
As for your High School, Oliver, that was a long time ago. None of you are aware or want to admit the degree of pathology many kids in the inner city Black communities suffer from. I would never ever send a non-Black child to school in a majority Black school. I went to them, I know. They’d end up more racist than kids who went to all white schools or they’d just bend to peer pressure and become ignorant, undereducated losers, who were tolerant of Blacks but knew nothing else of any import.
We can’t make the kids behave in school by throwing money at them. Until the parents of these kids can impart a value for education, such as the Asians have, you can expect failure on a grand scale.
Until the parents of these kids can impart a value for education,
I see.
It’s not the crumbling school buildings, the overcrowded classrooms, the lack of facilities, the outdated textbooks, the inappropriate curricula, or the meddling of politicians–it’s those damned black parents who don’t care if their kids get an education. They’re the only real problem.
That how you see it, mialexa? You must have been a teacher in one of these schools to know so much about it.