Sinbad Weighs In On HRC’s Foreign Policy “Expertise”
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August called it, but here he is:
Sinbad, along with singer Sheryl Crow, was on that 1996 trip to Bosnia that Clinton has described as a harrowing international experience that makes her tested and ready to answer a 3 a.m. phone call at the White House on day one, a claim for which she’s taking much grief on the campaign trail.
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In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the “scariest” part of the trip was wondering where he’d eat next. “I think the only ‘red-phone’ moment was: ‘Do we eat here or at the next place.’”
Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. “They said there might be sniper fire,” Clinton said.
Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn’t remember that, either.
“I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or ‘Oh, God, I hope I’m going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.’”
In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, “We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady.”
Say what? As Sinbad put it: “What kind of president would say, ‘Hey, man, I can’t go ’cause I might get shot so I’m going to send my wife…oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.’”
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Sinbad? Now Olibama is quoting freaking Sinbad?
My god you’re getting more laughably desperate by the minute.
“Sinbad weighs in…”
I’m on Candid Camera, right?
Wow, that’s a powerful refutation you’ve got there.
Was there or was there not a “corkscrew landing?”
Was there or was there not a threat of sniper fire?
Regardless of whether Sinbad the 6′ 5″ actor/comedian felt he was in imminent physical danger, was there or was there not real danger?
Fail.
I notice the quote a bit further down that article: “What got me about Hillary was her attitude of entitlement, like he messed up her plan, like he had no reason to be there,”
That’s exactly the feeling I got from her way back when the campaigns started. Like all things that leave one with “a feeling’ I can’t point to exactly what gave me that impression. But that’s precisely the vibe I get from her.
And so because of that “vibe” you’re predisposed to accept anything negative said about her?
liberalrob, the feeling I get from Hillary is that she is not a consensus builder. That feeling is the result of the health reform taskforce which she chaired and subsequently fucked up. We may not agree with Republicans but we will not vanquish them if/when we win the presidency. Furthermore, if we provoke them by leaving them without representation, we will likely have a very, very short run at victory.
liberalrob: “And so because of that “vibe” you’re predisposed to accept anything negative said about her?”
Absolutely not. I’m predisposed to be fair, to consider the source of negative comments and the support for positive ones. And to make it very clear when I don’t have strong rational for an opinion (“I can’t point to exactly what gave me that impression.”)
Hillary’s “as far as I know” comment? No opinion until I watched the tapes myself and then didn’t strike me as a big deal. Her claims that her time as First Lady qualified her to be CiC? Not standing up to scrutiny.
That her supporters (and she herself at times, but VASTLY moreso her supporters) look on any skepticism as an attack, paint criticism as coming from someone unreasonably predisposed to dislike her? Your comment is only the latest (albeit very minor) example.
z_adura: “We may not agree with Republicans but we will not vanquish them if/when we win the presidency.”
No. But we won’t vanquish them by giving in every time they give us a nasty look or threaten a filibuster. Consensus building is the way to go, but there do have to be limits beyond which one will NOT give ground. And in some ways Hillary’s sense of certainty may have a positive aspect at being able to hold that line. (See, liberalrob?)
Because Sinbad is a comedian, he doesn’t have any standing to say what he saw when traveling with Sen. Clinton at the same event?
Sure he does. He even has standing to forget what he said before:
Qiab: “Sure he does. He even has standing to forget what he said before: “a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 that quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as “so tense. It was Crips and Bloods.””
Be fair, Quaker. Quote the whole passage:
He didn’t forget what he said before. But to note that the general situation in Bosnia is tense doesn’t negate any comments that the particular circumstances they were in during their visit lacked any sense of personal danger and had no dodging of sniper fire.
Allright, Sean. I’ll stop trying to be cute and play it straight.
Mr. Sinbad states openly that he is an Obama supporter. That’s reason enough to engage in a little spinning.
And while we’re asking each other to “be fair,” let’s address this:
The report was that there was a corkscrew landing and that the passengers were told there might be sniper fire. Mr. Sinbad’s remarks don’t contradict this account.
“Tense as Crips and Bloods” but also “never any danger”? Sounds like spinning to me.
Sean, just to be clear, there is a way to get people who disagree with you to accept your position and a way not to. I am sure you are aware of this – sorry for being pedantic. If you try to do politics the way George Bush does them, you are ensuring a heavy backlash. One reason that I like Obama is that he seems to understand this principle. He also clearly states his core principles and beliefs and connects those beliefs to his positions.
Hillary on the other hand seems to take a “my way or the highway” approach. This will ensure that every piece of major legislation that we need enacted will suffer the fate of her healthcare reform efforts.
Sinbad can say what he saw. He was there I just wonder if he really saw what he said he saw (why would an Obama supporter shade the truth), and whether the situation he is being used (willingly, but used) to imply didn’t exist in reality did exist.
What does Sheryl Crow say? She was also there.
What does the military say? They would have been aware of the situation and should have records of the trip.
QiaB: “The report was that there was a corkscrew landing and that the passengers were told there might be sniper fire. Mr. Sinbad’s remarks don’t contradict this account.”
Sounds like a contradiction to me.
Sigh.
Who are you going to believe, lying liar Hillary Clinton or straight-shootin’ Sinbad?
Does it really come to this?
What’s politics for, again?
Liberalrob: “Who are you going to believe, lying liar Hillary Clinton or straight-shootin’ Sinbad?”
See? That, right there. It’s why I’m finding it really hard to agree with Hillary supporters. If it’s truly a she said/he said situation, then neither side can be taken as being the final word. Yet, the Hillary side comes up with
sarcasm (“Wow, that’s a powerful refutation you’ve got there.“),
exaggeration (“And so because of that “vibe” you’re predisposed to accept anything negative said about her?“),
just plain silliness (and pots calling kettles black) (“I just wonder if he really saw what he said he saw (why would an Obama supporter shade the truth)“) and
back to sarcasm (“Who are you going to believe, lying liar Hillary Clinton or straight-shootin’ Sinbad?“).
Just about anything other than a fair, equal evaluation of the comments being made.
So what’s the contradiction?
Is Mr. Sinbad saying there wasn’t a “hair-raising corkscrew landing”? I missed that. Is he saying that they weren’t told there might be sniper fire? I don’t see that either.
He does say “I never felt a sense of being in peril,” which contradicts neither statement. However it does contradict other statements of his own.
And why the hell are we parsing the words of freakin’ Sinbad anyway?
QiaB, of course we don’t have to get into the parsing of words. It’s attempting to nit-picky parse that causes distortion.
Clearly there is an opposition of views here. Clinton, however specifically worded, said they were warned the landing is dangerous and Sinbad says there was no sense of imminent danger.
Does it have to be as clear cut as Clinton saying, verbatim, “There was a corkscrew landing as we dodged sniper fire” and Sinbad providing the exact quote “There was no corkscrew landing and we didn’t dodge any sniper fire.”
What exactly happened? Is Clinton’s version right? Is Sinbad’s? Dunno. But clearly there is room to be skeptical.
Dammit, dammit dammit!
It’s 2008, people! I thought we were rid of Sinbad once and for all! See what happens with Clinton v.2.0? We get the ’90′s all over again.
Next thing you know, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice will be doing ABC News.
Thank you, Mr. Duros, for providing some much-needed perspective. Carry on.
I can’t tell anymore if you’re snarking me or not, but let me just say this;
Anybody brings in Carrot Top or Yahoo Serious, I am fucking outta here.
No snark. I appreciate you bringing the thread back around to my initial reaction: we’re listening to Sinbad?
Without necessarily taking things back to the serious end of the pool, yeah, Sinbad. Aka, a guy who was there.
Quaker, I fully expect you to treat Sheryl Crow with the same dismissiveness if she comes out and says “No, Hillary was right. Dodging bullets.”
Because, seriously, we’re listening to Sheryl Crow?
I fully expect you to treat Sheryl Crow with the same dismissiveness if she comes out and says “No, Hillary was right. Dodging bullets.”
Trust me. I will.
Quaker, I fully expect you to treat Sheryl Crow with the same dismissiveness
Too late. That “one-sheet-of-TP” thing did it for me.
The Clinton campaign will send out Ferraro to say “Sinbad is from the hood, so he is use to gunfire”.
I fully expect you to treat Sheryl Crow with the same dismissiveness
She slept with Kid Rock. Need we go on?
Hey, now we have Obama’s first cabinet pick: Sinbad for Secretary of State! Or should it be Secretary of Defense?