Comments on: Some Words For Eliot Spitzer http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:05:37 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bruce http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87341 Bruce Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:23:13 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87341 The smartest stpuid m------------------ in the business. A rising star, reduced arguably to sub-McGreevey levels of political leprosy. General rule: you can survive a money scandal and you can survive a sex scandal, but you can rarely survive the double header. The smartest stpuid m—————— in the business. A rising star, reduced arguably to sub-McGreevey levels of political leprosy.

General rule: you can survive a money scandal and you can survive a sex scandal, but you can rarely survive the double header.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87339 Quaker in a Basement Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:19:38 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87339 <em>While I agree that it is best for him to resign, the party needs to be prepared to frame this story in a positive way, i.e. </em> How about: we told Mr. Spitzer to pack his stuff and go find a job. While I agree that it is best for him to resign, the party needs to be prepared to frame this story in a positive way, i.e.

How about: we told Mr. Spitzer to pack his stuff and go find a job.

]]> By: bill l. http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87332 bill l. Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:35:17 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87332 Easy, Z, I wasn't suggesting adopting Republican tactics. Rather, I think the Dems need to be careful that they don't let the GOP grab this story and control the framing, a problem they have repeatedly suffered from in the past. Easy, Z, I wasn’t suggesting adopting Republican tactics. Rather, I think the Dems need to be careful that they don’t let the GOP grab this story and control the framing, a problem they have repeatedly suffered from in the past.

]]> By: liberalrob http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87329 liberalrob Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:15:59 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87329 That was a carpet f-bombing. Wow. Henry Rollins thinks that was over the top. That was a carpet f-bombing. Wow. Henry Rollins thinks that was over the top.

]]> By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87319 duros62 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:09:20 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87319 Jeez, August, tell us how you really feel. Jeez, August, tell us how you really feel.

]]> By: z_adura http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87318 z_adura Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:50:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87318 bill, we are not like Republicans. We have an inherent sense of right and wrong. For the last 15 years or so, Republicans have not shared this sensibility which is why Livingston and Gingrich can be cheating on their wives whilst simultaneously getting angry with Bill Clinton. I refuse to lower my standards on their account. It is why Foley can chair the Childhood Exploitation subcommittee whilst simultaneously emailing 16 year old boys. It is WHY Vitter gets a standing ovation. The media has every right to discuss the morals and ethics of our party. It is not a frame to say that Spitzer fucked up. It is also valid to say that we should pay a political price for it. Our moral high ground has been lowered. bill, we are not like Republicans. We have an inherent sense of right and wrong. For the last 15 years or so, Republicans have not shared this sensibility which is why Livingston and Gingrich can be cheating on their wives whilst simultaneously getting angry with Bill Clinton. I refuse to lower my standards on their account. It is why Foley can chair the Childhood Exploitation subcommittee whilst simultaneously emailing 16 year old boys. It is WHY Vitter gets a standing ovation.

The media has every right to discuss the morals and ethics of our party. It is not a frame to say that Spitzer fucked up. It is also valid to say that we should pay a political price for it. Our moral high ground has been lowered.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87315 Jay Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:39:37 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87315 Well, this is not a 'sex' scandal. Spitzer used the power of his office to bust several prostitution rings and now he's taken part in one. Well, this is not a ’sex’ scandal. Spitzer used the power of his office to bust several prostitution rings and now he’s taken part in one.

]]> By: bill l. http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87313 bill l. Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:57:07 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87313 The problem the dems face, though, is that Vitter will be lost to history, forgotten, and the GOP will pay no price overall for his transgressions. Spitzer, on the other hand, will be draped around the Dems necks for the next few months and will almost certainly be used as fodder for the election. While I agree that it is best for him to resign, the party needs to be prepared to frame this story in a positive way, i.e. "we do more than just talk about morals and ethics" or something. The problem the dems face, though, is that Vitter will be lost to history, forgotten, and the GOP will pay no price overall for his transgressions. Spitzer, on the other hand, will be draped around the Dems necks for the next few months and will almost certainly be used as fodder for the election. While I agree that it is best for him to resign, the party needs to be prepared to frame this story in a positive way, i.e. “we do more than just talk about morals and ethics” or something.

]]> By: merlallen http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87308 merlallen Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:53:09 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87308 He should join the Republican Party. Then he would get a standing ovation like Diaper Dave did. And I don't care about sex scandals, either. He should join the Republican Party. Then he would get a standing ovation like Diaper Dave did.
And I don’t care about sex scandals, either.

]]> By: z_adura http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87305 z_adura Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:39:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87305 I really don't care about Vitter. If the Republicans are not disgusted enough by his behavior to demand accountability, that is their business. We should hold our politicians to a higher standard. I really don’t care about Vitter. If the Republicans are not disgusted enough by his behavior to demand accountability, that is their business. We should hold our politicians to a higher standard.

]]> By: buma http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87297 buma Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:06:22 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/10/some-words-for-elliot-spitzer/#comment-87297 Should he resign? Yes. As should vitter and the others who paid for perostitutes while in office. The real news is that wiretapping is a great tool for corporations and cheneyites to use in getting rid of their adversaries. So w=Whatever happened to that Washington madam's black book, by the way? Should he resign? Yes. As should vitter and the others who paid for perostitutes while in office.
The real news is that wiretapping is a great tool for corporations and cheneyites to use in getting rid of their adversaries.
So w=Whatever happened to that Washington madam’s black book, by the way?

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