Funny, Farris, but wrong.

Funny, Farris, but wrong.

I bet you have no fucking clue what trans fat is.

…no it doesn’t. I just checked the ice cream in my freezer.

How about some Frogurt?

But…the Frogurt’s cursed.

This is, of course, the same rhetoric that businesses used to get huge tax breaks on their commercial real estate properties when Prop 13 was first on the ballot.

Prop 13 is a big part of California’s problem because it deprives counties of a significant tax base forcing them to turn to the state for block grants to fund basic services.

Amending Prop 13 to exclude commercial properties would go a long towards protecting home owners while returning much needed revenue to local counties. Here’s a quote from a recent LA Times op ed :

Assessing all commercial property at market values could add $5 billion more to state coffers, Goldberg estimated.

“The assessment of commercial property is the biggest hole in the state’s tax system,” he said. “It’s completely indefensible.”…

If the older portions of the Disneyland resort were assessed at the same level as newer ones, he observed, Orange County would be raking in millions of dollars more each year in revenue. This, in turn, would make the county less reliant on assistance from the state.

“It’s only fair,” Goldberg said.

here’s more on why Prop 13 and other anti-tax measures in California has created the very problem that Jay would like to blame on liberals who don’t think anyone should ever have to work for anything.

Here’s the crux of it:

The problem is that not enough Californians yet see how Prop 13 works against their interest. The savings on the property tax bill isn’t worth the lack of health care, the inaccessibility of education, and the decaying infrastructure that is starting to cripple our economy. Prop 13’s effect was to create a homeowner aristocracy in this state, where a lucky few who bought homes before, say, 1985 are able to withstand better the economic storms lashing the state, while the rest of us suffer to maintain their privilege.

Sorry. Ice Cream has trans fats so you can’t have any … ever. How about some Frogurt?

Coming from the guy who said this:

Along the lines of what Hedley says, liberalism says that you’re entitled to as much ice cream as you want, whenever you want. It is your “right” to have any flavor that you want, and you don’t even have to work to get it. Being told to work to have to get it is “insensitive.” And it’s ‘free’ in that it is subsidized by taxpayers.

Color me unimpresed

Wow. This is not kryptonite. This is stupid.

And who are you kidding? You’d eat ice cream 3x a day, if offered.

California is facing a $14 billion budget deficit due to rampant spending and what is the Democratic solution? Why to raise taxes of course! The Governator wants to cut spending, but the knee-jerk dolts that make up the Democratic majority in the state legislature have already said, “No!” California’s credit rating was in the tank until he was elected and it seems certain that Moody’s will seek to downgrade them again.

California has the highest tax rates in the country and even per capita ranks ninth in the nation. Proposition 13 is the only thing keeping even more people from being taxed out of their homes. Lord knows what kind of real estate taxes people would have to pay if the Sacramento legislators had their way.

And while Hollywood isn’t going anywhere, and big hi-tech firms are staying put, many other businesses are leaving the state and setting up shop elsewhere. Do the research and see. In addition, nearly 1.4 million residents have packed their bags and moved out of California over the last 10 years because it has simply become too expensive to live there.

Now, if anybody has any FACTS to refute any of this, go ahead and provide it. But saying, “What about Bush?!?!” doesn’t make me wrong and it’s pure and simple deflection. Or if you want to just name-call, do that too. Because that’s what the majority of you do.

I think the idiocy of this comment, not to mention your gross mischaracterization of what’s wrong with california (thank you for covering that one, z_dura and megazone) pretty much pegs as yet another yahoo moron who gets all his “news” from talk radio. I thought you were a hack, jay. Now i know you’re just another robot.

Shouldn’t just be everyone’s default signature? We say it so often.

I never cease to be amazed at the wingnut lack of irony. I knew though that they would still trot out that “reckless spending” canard even after eight years of supporting some of the biggest spending increases in history under Bush, not to mention a half-trillion dollar war that isn’t even on the books yet.

They are principle-less hypocritical douches.

Yup, the eighth largest economy in the WORLD. We’re home to the tech industry and the entertainment industry, two of America’s biggest exports. And we also pay more to the federal govt than we get back, supporting all those red welfare states.

Debt brought on by reckless spending, absurdly high taxes, ridiculous real estate prices, a social welfare system in tatters, and a credit rating that teeters on the edge. That’s something to brag about?

You just described Bush’s economic policies and their effects on America. Yup, Jay, keep voting for more borrow-and-spend Republicans. That’s the road to good economic health, like the kind we’re going to be experiencing in about six months.

Then don’t take it as an analogy. Using that as a literal difference between conservativism and libralism works as well. After all, vegetables, soy, and Whole Foods are part of the vast liberal fascist conspiracy. Just ask Jonah Goldberg.