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	<title>Comments on: Giuliani&#8217;s Pal &amp; Pedophilia</title>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/23/giulianis-pal-pedophilia/#comment-60403</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strowbridge, if you&#039;re referring to my calling Placa &quot;convicted,&quot; I retracted it in the very next sentence. In brief, the whole &quot;accusation&quot; was a deliberate error to highlight that he had NOT been convicted.

As far as Gerry Studds... his censure is on the record. He took an underage page overseas, plied him with booze, and had his carnal way with him. He turned his back on the House when they voted -- overwhelmingly -- to censure him.

And once that was over, they welcomed him back with open arms, and eventually he was made chairman of the House Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries.

Also, Studds is dead. it&#039;s tacky to speak ill of the dead, but 1) there&#039;s no law against being tacky, and B) truth is an absolute defense.

Placa has been accused by alleged victims. There is sworn testimony that incriminates him. But he was not indicted, let alone tried and convicted. He was not proven guilty, so therefore in the eyes of the law he is innocent.

Retraction, Strowbridge? Nah. &quot;Clarification,&quot; as you obviously didn&#039;t understand what I said the first time, but I don&#039;t see anything I need to retract.

J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strowbridge, if you&#8217;re referring to my calling Placa &#8220;convicted,&#8221; I retracted it in the very next sentence. In brief, the whole &#8220;accusation&#8221; was a deliberate error to highlight that he had NOT been convicted.</p>
<p>As far as Gerry Studds&#8230; his censure is on the record. He took an underage page overseas, plied him with booze, and had his carnal way with him. He turned his back on the House when they voted &#8212; overwhelmingly &#8212; to censure him.</p>
<p>And once that was over, they welcomed him back with open arms, and eventually he was made chairman of the House Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries.</p>
<p>Also, Studds is dead. it&#8217;s tacky to speak ill of the dead, but 1) there&#8217;s no law against being tacky, and B) truth is an absolute defense.</p>
<p>Placa has been accused by alleged victims. There is sworn testimony that incriminates him. But he was not indicted, let alone tried and convicted. He was not proven guilty, so therefore in the eyes of the law he is innocent.</p>
<p>Retraction, Strowbridge? Nah. &#8220;Clarification,&#8221; as you obviously didn&#8217;t understand what I said the first time, but I don&#8217;t see anything I need to retract.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/23/giulianis-pal-pedophilia/#comment-60402</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Tea: &quot;Good god, how the HELL did a convicted pedophile get on Giuliani&#039;s staff?

Oh, not convicted, but ACCUSED.

You&#039;re right. To compare an ACCUSED pedophile with an ADMITTED and CENSURED one (like Studds)&quot;

Congratulations, what you just said is actionable. And if you are too stupid to figure that out, what you just said is libel and you can be sued over it.

I think a retraction is in order.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Tea: &#8220;Good god, how the HELL did a convicted pedophile get on Giuliani&#8217;s staff?</p>
<p>Oh, not convicted, but ACCUSED.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. To compare an ACCUSED pedophile with an ADMITTED and CENSURED one (like Studds)&#8221;</p>
<p>Congratulations, what you just said is actionable. And if you are too stupid to figure that out, what you just said is libel and you can be sued over it.</p>
<p>I think a retraction is in order.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/23/giulianis-pal-pedophilia/#comment-60401</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Shorter Zython:

&quot;I reject the Constitution.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

So...accurately pointing out that you&#039;re an apologist for a child molester is the same thing as rejecting the Constitution? Someone has an inflated ego.

Tsk tsk tsk. Poor pkb. Poor Jay. Why do you two hate America SO much?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Shorter Zython:</p>
<p>&#8220;I reject the Constitution.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>So&#8230;accurately pointing out that you&#8217;re an apologist for a child molester is the same thing as rejecting the Constitution? Someone has an inflated ego.</p>
<p>Tsk tsk tsk. Poor pkb. Poor Jay. Why do you two hate America SO much?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/23/giulianis-pal-pedophilia/#comment-60400</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good god, how the HELL did a convicted pedophile get on Giuliani&#039;s staff?

Oh, not convicted, but ACCUSED.

You&#039;re right. To compare an ACCUSED pedophile with an ADMITTED and CENSURED one (like Studds) or an CONVICTED and IMPRISONED (but commuted by Clinton) one (like Reynolds) is completely unfair. It&#039;d be like comparing Sandy Berger to Karl Rove.

No, that&#039;s not right, either. Karl Rove was never even indicted.

How about Sandy Berger with Ray Donovan?

&quot;Where do I go to get my reputation back?&quot;

J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good god, how the HELL did a convicted pedophile get on Giuliani&#8217;s staff?</p>
<p>Oh, not convicted, but ACCUSED.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. To compare an ACCUSED pedophile with an ADMITTED and CENSURED one (like Studds) or an CONVICTED and IMPRISONED (but commuted by Clinton) one (like Reynolds) is completely unfair. It&#8217;d be like comparing Sandy Berger to Karl Rove.</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s not right, either. Karl Rove was never even indicted.</p>
<p>How about Sandy Berger with Ray Donovan?</p>
<p>&#8220;Where do I go to get my reputation back?&#8221;</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/23/giulianis-pal-pedophilia/#comment-60399</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter pkb:

&quot;I support child molestation.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter pkb:</p>
<p>&#8220;I support child molestation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/23/giulianis-pal-pedophilia/#comment-60398</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reaction to Rudy Giuliani defending and dancing around with an accused pedophile is to bring up some idiotic Democrat from 20+ years ago. Okay.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reaction to Rudy Giuliani defending and dancing around with an accused pedophile is to bring up some idiotic Democrat from 20+ years ago. Okay.</p>
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		<title>By: merlallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>merlallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were a frightwinger you&#039;d understand. Berger stealing copies of secret documents is EXACTLY the same as a rightwinger molesting children. No difference at all.
I bet kids are scared to death of pkb. And with good reason.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were a frightwinger you&#8217;d understand. Berger stealing copies of secret documents is EXACTLY the same as a rightwinger molesting children. No difference at all.<br />
I bet kids are scared to death of pkb. And with good reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/23/giulianis-pal-pedophilia/#comment-60396</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have missed the part where Sandy Berger molested children.  Cite?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have missed the part where Sandy Berger molested children.  Cite?</p>
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