More words: CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HOLD ON TO THE BALL? PLEASE? IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? REALLY? YOU CAN’T HOLD ON TO THE BALL? IS IT WET? YOU HAVE A TOWEL. WIPE IT DOWN! JESUS, SERIOUSLY, HOLD ON TO THE DAMN BALL.
That is what you would have heard if you were within a mile or less of my living room.
Ah Santana Moss. 0 catches, 3 drops, include one he deflected into a defender, and a fumble that was returned for a TD.
I can’t think of a better excuse to start drinking heavily.
Maybe at some point in the future, we’ll find out that some kidnapper was holding the University of Miami mascot hostage and all the Miami boys had to throw the game in order to save his life. Can’t imagine another reason why all the screwups were perpetrated by Miami grads.
Oh right, these are the Redskins who you think will give the pats trouble. I bet brady and company are shaking in their boots.
Heh.
The Green Bay Packers.
Ha.
See you in the Super Bowl.
Oliver
Can we please have some of that “Pats havent beaten anyone good yet” talk please??
They beat one good team. Whoopee.
“Oh right, these are the Redskins who you think will give the pats trouble. I bet brady and company are shaking in their boots.”
I don’t remember him saying that. I remember him saying the Pats were not as good as their record would indicate, and I agree.
Vik: “Can we please have some of that “Pats havent beaten anyone good yet” talk please??”
Oliver Willis: “They beat one good team. Whoopee.”
Who? I hope you don’t mean the Cowboys. Of the previous five teams the Cowboys played, they defeated two teams that haven’t won a game, and only one team with a .500 record or better.
The combined records of the five teams the Cowboys played before the Pats was 6 – 22. No wonder they were 5 – 0.
On the other hand, before today the five teems the Pats had beaten had a combined total of 9 – 19. Again, no big surprise they were 5 – 0, however, they all won every game by at least two touchdowns and did the same today.
Given the evidence, I still say the Patriots have not had to face a good team.
That is not to say the Patriots are bad, but they are not as good as their record indicates because their opponents have been so bad.
…and then I spent the entire 4pm game yelling
QUIT MOVING BEFORE THE SNAP!
QUIT HOLDING!
OMG! SO MANY PENALTYS!
If the Pats aren’t as good as their record, who is better than the Pats? The only AFC team that could arguably be better is Indianapolis. As Dallas is arguably the best in the NFC right now, along with Green Bay, who in the NFC is better than the Pats?
As Parcells always said, “you are what your record says you are.”
Right now Dallas is the class of the NFC…the team currently most likely to make it to the Big Dance. Every other NFC team has enough question marks that at best they’re fighting for second place.
Right now the Pats and Colts remain the favorites to represent the AFC, with the Colts slightly lower in rank only because they haven’t been dominating even their weaker opponents.
Now, say the Pats get to the Super Bowl, and they face Dallas. And say they beat Dallas.
I’ll bet anybody $20 that people here will still be griping that the Patriots didn’t beat anybody that good to win the league championship, even if they beat the number-one team in the NFC.
That’s not the Patriots’ fault. It’s the NFC’s.
Dallas made a hell of a contest for New England yesterday, and they still got smoked. I don’t think they can go 16-0, but these Patriots are playing some excellent fundamental football.
“If the Pats aren’t as good as their record, who is better than the Pats? The only AFC team that could arguably be better is Indianapolis.”
You just answered your own question.
I would say that a team that is 4 – 1 and has played all .500 teams is better than a team that is 5 – 0 and has played only 1 .500 team.
“Now, say the Pats get to the Super Bowl, and they face Dallas. And say they beat Dallas.
I’ll bet anybody $20 that people here will still be griping that the Patriots didn’t beat anybody that good to win the league championship, even if they beat the number-one team in the NFC.”
They will have to face tougher teams in the playoffs, that’s when they will prove if they are a good team or not. If they beat Indianapolis in a couple of weeks, they will prove they are a good team.
On the other hand, Dallas proved they were not a good team. The first time they played a potential contender, they were crushed.
“If the Pats aren’t as good as their record, who is better than the Pats? The only AFC team that could arguably be better is Indianapolis.”
You just answered your own question.
I would say that a team that is 4 – 1 and has played all .500 teams is better than a team that is 5 – 0 and has played only 1 .500 team.
“Now, say the Pats get to the Super Bowl, and they face Dallas. And say they beat Dallas.
I’ll bet anybody $20 that people here will still be griping that the Patriots didn’t beat anybody that good to win the league championship, even if they beat the number-one team in the NFC.”
They will have to face tougher teams in the playoffs, that’s when they will prove if they are a good team or not. If they beat Indianapolis in a couple of weeks, they will prove they are as good of a team as their record indicates.
On the other hand, Dallas proved they were not a good team. The first time they played a good team, they were crushed.
And that’s hogwash. Dallas didn’t prove they were not a good team; they proved they were not the better team.
As for them facing “tougher” teams in the playoffs, I don’t see your logic. There’s a very good chance that they’ll play teams in the playoffs that they already played in the regular schedule. But by your reasoning, if they beat that team in the regular season, then they were not a “tough” team.
If Dallas makes it to the Super Bowl, you’ll say “oh, yes, they were a good team.” But right now, you say, “oh, they are not a good team.”
Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic.
“And that’s hogwash. Dallas didn’t prove they were not a good team; they proved they were not the better team.”
The faced 5 teams with a combined 6-22 record, barely winning some of these games. The first time the met a team that was a real contender, they were blown out.
“As for them facing “tougher” teams in the playoffs, I don’t see your logic. There’s a very good chance that they’ll play teams in the playoffs that they already played in the regular schedule. But by your reasoning, if they beat that team in the regular season, then they were not a “tough” team.”
Really? You think the Bills are going to make it? How about Cleveland? They’ve played teams that couldn’t win in area football. No, the teams they will play in the playoffs will be tested and proven, not the four losers they earn 80% of their wins against.
“If Dallas makes it to the Super Bowl, you’ll say “oh, yes, they were a good team.” But right now, you say, “oh, they are not a good team.”
Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic.”
How do you figure? New evidence comes in and I adjust my conclusions accordingly. That’s the very fucking essence of Earth logic.
The evidence now suggests the Dallas Cowboys are not a good team, but merely the beneficiaries of a soft schedule. As the encounter tougher teams, we will see if they truly are a good team.